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The Book Whisperer: Awakening the Inner Reader in Every Child
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Deb Kendall (mskendall) | 10 comments Mod
Briefly describe the three types of readers Miller sees in her classroom.


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Jeannene Egan | 10 comments There were three types of readers that Miller sees in her classroom; developing readers, dormant readers, and underground readers. Developing readers were compared to struggling readers. These readers have not had good reading experiences or they might have a learning disability. Developing readers read below grade level and don't do well on standardized tests. The dormant reader is the next type of reader she compares this to the reluctant reader. These are students who only read to pass the class and get the assignment done. Reading is work for these students and not pleasure. The final category of readers she described was the Underground reader. These readers are gifted and take pleasure in reading what they prefer. They are avid readers. She mentions that although these readers are at different levels they can all improve if worked with correctly.


message 3: by Emily (last edited Mar 04, 2014 01:29PM) (new)

Emily | 10 comments Developing readers: commonly referred to as struggling readers. Do not read at grade level for reasons including inadequate reading experiences or learning disabilities. Difficulty understanding reading material. Have been in reading intervention programs and tutoring. Standardized test scores are low and some have failed at least one state assessment. Do not see themselves as capable of becoming strong readers. Continue to struggle because of the amount of reading they actually do. These students have the ability to become strong readers. They need support for where they are in their development and the chance to feel success as readers instead of experiencing reading failure. They need to read.

Dormant reader: also called reluctant readers. They read in order to pass their classes or do well on state tests but never embrace reading as a worthwhile pursuit outside of school. Read assigned books, do assigned activities and drop the books when weekends or summers arrive. Reading to them is work, not pleasure. They need to realize that reading is engaging. They need to read and read just like developing readers. Find their love of stories in video games and TV. They lack experiences that show them that books have the same magic. Never been given the chance to discover new worlds that books can contain. Never learn how to choose books by themselves.

Underground readers: gifted readers but they see the reading they are asked to do in school as completely disconnected from the reading they prefer to do on their own. They just want to read and for the teachers to get out of their way and just let them. Come into class as avid readers. Advanced reading abilities and sophisticated tastes that few teachers design instruction around their needs, preferring to develop a curriculum that supports most of the other students, who are at or below grade level.


message 4: by Pam (last edited Mar 07, 2014 01:07PM) (new)

Pam Davis | 10 comments Miller describes three types of readers in her class; the developing reader, dormant reader and underground reader. I appreciate her new positive terminology for these readers. I dislike labeling children which can follow them through all their years of school and cause discontent for them with future teachers.
Miller’s terminology has a more positive tone;

The developing reader is the reader that struggles but has the ability to be strong in reading. The particular student she describes sounds like she is working extremely hard to meet the standards and Miller is able to help her succeed in doing so.

The reluctant reader has no desire to read a book. Miller puts a lot of energy into reaching the student she describes as this type of reader. She suggested many genres of books before she was finally able to pique this student’s interest with fantasy.

The underground readers are avid readers that only want to read; morning, noon and night, and only what they want to read. I have seen many of these “hide the book in the desk” readers in the classroom. I can recall one class in particular, there were many students that wanted to read all the time and the teacher struggled with making them close the book to listen to instruction of other lessons. He felt that it was wrong of him to make them put the book away when reading is so important for them.


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ME (thickethill) | 9 comments Describe the 3 types of readers:
The three types of readers are the developing (struggling) reader. This reader can’t read at grade level for various reasons. The dormant (reluctant) reader is apathetic and indifferent. This reader cannot be bothered to read outside of school. Then, there are the underground (avid) readers. To be left alone to read what they want is their aspiration.


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Rachelle (ruhshellmc) | 10 comments Developing readers are those readers that I've previously thought of as "struggling" readers. These are the readers who do not read at grade level and have probably received some type of reading intervention. They need a lot of practice reading to support the tutoring and test-taking preparation they receive. Real world experience is vital to their reading development.

Dormant readers are Miller's way of referring to "reluctant" readers. This is cringe-worthy. Teachers and librarians use the term "reluctant reader" frequently. Is it so frequent that students hear it? Dormant readers are uninterested because reading means work to them. This type of reader can grow into an avid reader with encouragement to try a variety of different books and support to read the things that appeal to them regardless of grade level.

Miller refers to gifted readers as "underground readers." These readers may score well on tests and may read independently at home for pleasure. Their pleasure reading and reading for class are not connected. Assigned reading is work and the amount of time spent in class unpacking the text might bore them. These readers need freedom to read and progress at their own pace.


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Emma (thatemmachickyouknow) | 10 comments The underground readers are the students who read for pleasure at home and how their pleasure for reading for class is not connected to that which they find reading at home. These readers most likely will do well on tests for reading because they read just to read - morning, noon, and night. However, long and tedious assigned readings for class and then the amount of time analyzing the story may bore them.

Dormant readers are students who are good readers, but tend to not pick up a book because reading in their eyes means work. They often need encouragement to become an avid reader and to be able to find books that they enjoy. For class, they usually only read and do the work to pass the class.

Developing readers are then the students who do not read at their grade level and believe that they do not like to read at all because of that. They do not do well on reading tests and need to be encouraged to start reading to become more proficient and feel more confident because they can become good readers.


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Whitney Taylor (witaylor) | 10 comments There were three types of readers that Miller sees in her classroom; developing readers, dormant readers, and underground readers.

The developing readers are referred to as the struggling readers. These students are not reading at grade level. They have inadequate reading experiences or learning disabilities. They have a difficulty understand the reading material in every aspect of their lives.These students have low standardized testing scores and do not see themselves as capable of becoming strong readers.

Dormant readers are ones who read to pass their class or do well on state tests. They are the ones who never read for their own enjoyment outside of school. These readers need someone to inspire them to read, they need the right conditions to let the reader inside of them out.

Underground readers are the readers that are extremely gifted but see the reading they are asked to do in school different from the reading they enjoy doing on their own. These readers want to read and let no one tell them otherwise or tell them what they have to read.


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Bailey Pendleton | 10 comments First are developing readers. They are more commonly referred to as struggling readers. These are the students that are not reading at grade level. The reasoning for this is that they do not have enough experience reading and applying what they have been taught about decoding vocabulary, improve comprehension, and have not been able to improve on their reading fluency. Because they do not get as much experience as other children in their grade level, their test scores are lower and they do not become strong readers.

Second is the dormant readers. This group would be one that is unmotivated to read because of the standards that are put before them. These standards require a very minimal amount of reading. Only enough to pass state tests every year. Due to this, children are not motivated to read nearly as much, and therefore, do not read.

Last, is the underground readers. These are the ones that are very gifted and truly enjoy to read. However, they are usually uninterested in the reading that they have to do for school assignments. They will do the reading for school, but it is not as much fun as what they do on their own. They also do very well on tests.


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Stephanie Cain | 9 comments The three types of readers are Developing readers who have a hard time understanding the reading in all of their classes. Their scores on standardized tests are very low and they have also failed state assessments in reading and comprehension. Dormant readers are unmotivated and uninterested in reading. They read only for their classes, but don’t find reading enjoyable. Underground readers are students who see the reading that they do in school is totally separate from what they read for enjoyment. They are bored by the books that they “have” to read. They are avid readers and have advanced reading abilities.


message 11: by Elizabeth (new)

Elizabeth | 10 comments The first type of reader Miller sees in her classroom is the developing reader. I love that instead of “struggling reader” she uses developing reader. Even though they may be behind in their reading level, they still have the opportunity to learn and grow. Struggling just seems like such a negative term, whereas developing sounds optimistic and hopeful for the student’s reading.
The second type of reader was the dormant reader. This is the reader who reads to do well in class, but nothing more. Or if they do more, they struggle to identify themselves as a reader because they haven’t been taught how to find books based on their personality. They only know what has been taught to them. Usually these students are the readers who lose interest after they lose the privilege of choosing their reading material.
And the third type of reader was the underground reader. These students are the independent readers. They consider the reading in school to be completely disconnected to the reading they do in their free-time. These students are usually considered the gifted students.


message 12: by Tiffanie (new)

Tiffanie Fabian The first type of reader was the developing reader. This would be the reader that is having trouble reading. This group would include students who have learning disabilities. Developing readers tend to score lower on tests and do not see themselves as capable of becoming stronger readers.

The second type of reader is a dormant reader. This student does just enough to get by in school. They tend to read when the teacher tells them to, or do as much as to get a good grade on an exam but they don’t transfer the love for reading to their personal life. Dormant readers don’t think of reading as a fun activity and would rather do something else although they may be higher level readers.

The final type of reader is the underground reader. These readers are ones that do nothing but read what they want. These students tend to fly through what the teachers want them to read just so that they can get back to reading what they enjoy. Sometimes these readers will completely get lost in their personal text that they won’t even give the teachers choices the time of day which could cause them to fail classes.


message 13: by Jenifer (new)

Jenifer Ashby | 10 comments The three types of readers are; the developing reading, dormant reader, and lastly the underground reader. The developing reading is the person who has a hard time reading.These kids might be behind on their reading level and may do lower on test because they don't know quite how to comprehend the book as well as other students.
The second type of reader is the dormant reader. This reader is the one who just does enough to do well in school and past the test. They read because they have to and it was assigned but at this time they still only do the minimal work to get a good grade and pass. Other than school they don't read for enjoyment.
Lastly we have the underground reader. This reader is the one who reads for pure enjoyment. They love to read. They will do anything just to go back to reading the book that they want. The read the books that they want to read and not the books that the "have" to read for school.


message 14: by Bianca (new)

Bianca Dugan-sherman | 10 comments The three types of readers that Miller sees in her classroom are developing, dormant and underground. The developing reader is compared to struggling readers. Their standardized tests scores are low, may have difficulty understanding reading material and read below the grade level. These readers do not think they will ever be able to read well compared to their peers.
Dormant readers are compared to reluctant readers, they are not interested in reading. They only read to pass their classes and pass the state testing. They view reading as a job.
The underground reader is compared to the gifted reader. This reader enjoys reading. They do not want to do anything else in school besides read. These readers may become bored with school material because it does not involve reading. They may pass on to the next grade because of their high test scores but do not perform well in other school subjects.


message 15: by Liz (new)

Liz Karre | 10 comments The three types of readers listed in the "Book Whisperer" are the developing reader, the dormant reader, and the underground reader.

The developing reader is the student who has trouble reading or is behind the rest of the class in reading level. This is a student who is usually given special tutoring, one on one attention from teachers, and taught new ways of trying to learn. However, as Miller explains, the one thing missing for these readers is interest. As she demonstrated in her example of Kelsey, a student needs to start at their level and work their way up to the rest of the class's level.

The next type of reader is the dormant reader. This reader does fine on reading and state tests but is uninterested in making reading a life long activity.
The trouble with dormant readers is that most teachers spend the majority of their time focusing on the developing readers and leave the dormant readers out. Miller explained that these readers mostly just need motivation in the form of books which interest them.

The last kind of reader is the underground reader. This is the reader who is frustrated by having to read what the teacher assigns even though their reading level is usually above average. This reader enjoys reading in their off-time and can often be caught reading their own book instead of an assigned book during class. Miller encourages teachers to let these students do their own reading because they are already on the path to becoming life long readers.


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Kimberly | 10 comments The three types of readers discussed in The Book Whisperer are the developing reader, the dormant reader and the underground reader.
The developing reader (struggling) has had bad experiences with reading or has learning disabilities. More than likely the student has been put into programs that are to help them improve. These students can become disengaged from reading because they believe they do not have the ability to be a strong reader.
The dormant reader (reluctant) often seems unmotivated and uninterested in reading. They read to get by in school and pass their tests. They do not read outside of school and consider themselves non-readers.
The underground readers (gifted) are avid readers. These students disconnect themselves from the required school reading and like to read what they want. They generally get bored with the required reading.


message 17: by Jennifer (new)

Jennifer Bane | 10 comments The three types of readers that Miller sees in her classroom are developing, dormant, and underground. The developing readers were what others would call struggling readers, they are the ones who are not reading at grade level and have often failed or almost failed the state tests. The dormant readers are the readers that only read because they are told to do so. They don’t really like to read very much and they think of it as work. The underground readers are the readers who love to read and also know the types of book they like. All they want to do is read and if they are dragged through a book and told to analyze it they can often get bored.


message 18: by Bradley (new)

Bradley Clay | 10 comments The threes types of readers that Miller sees in her classroom are developing readers, dormant readers, and underground readers.

The people who are labeled as a developing reader are also labeled as struggling readers. These types of readers might not have had good reading experiences or may not have had someone help them by suggesting books for them to read. Therefore, they are usually not reading at their grade level, standardized test scores are low, and are in tutoring programs. These students maybe struggling at reading, but that doesn’t mean they don’t have the ability to become a strong reader.

Dormant readers are the readers who just read to pass their classes or to do well on the state test. Miller refers to them as “reluctant” readers. These readers are good readers, but they just need the motivation or someone to inspire them to read for fun. These types of readers need a lot of suggestions and different types of genres of books to help them find what they enjoy reading about. This will help motivate them to read and could push them towards reading books on their own.

The third type of reader is the underground reader, also known as the “gifted readers”. These readers are avid readers that read whenever they can morning, over lunch, at night, or even when they have a five-minute break. These types of readers are known to hide books in their desk and read when the teachers are lecturing. They just want to read and for the teachers to get out of their way, so they can just read what they want to read. They can get bored in the classroom since the teachers focus on the people who need help with improving their scores.


message 19: by Brooke (new)

Brooke Kelly | 10 comments Miller describes three types of readers, the developing reader, the dormant reader, and the underground reader.

Developing Reader: The developing reader is also known as the ‘struggling’ reader. Developing readers are students who do not have a lot of reading experience or they may have a learning disability. They do not read at their reading level and they often are tutored and have reading interventions.

Dormant Reader: The dormant reader is someone who only reads the required material and does not read for engagement. These students are often unmotivated to read. They pass state standards but do not see reading as a pleasurable past time.

Underground Reader: The underground reader is someone who spends a majority of the time reading for pleasure. They spend so much time reading books they find interesting; they often slack on school reading requirements.


message 20: by Trey (new)

Trey Stuthman | 10 comments Within Miller's chapter, we discover that there are 3 different types of readers: dormant readers, underground readers, and developing readers.

Dormant readers are those readers who only read to be able to pass the state assessments. These readers do not find any value in reading outside of school, and they sometimes even have difficulties wanting to read inside of school. However, Miller states that these readers have the potential in them to be great readers, they just need the right condition in order to let their imaginations take them.

Underground readers are those who enjoy reading, but not necessarily in school. These readers have the ability to finish class books within days and will move onto a personal book to fill time. These are gifted readers who sometimes are forgotten about as the teacher focuses on students who need help with reading, not those who already love to read.

Developing readers (also known as struggling readers) are exactly what they sound like: they are readers who struggle to read and will find themselves not wanting to read at all. However, Miller goes on to explain that these students, though they do not have high reading abilities, have the potential to be good readers if they are able to find a book that matches with their reading ability/interest.


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Hannah | 10 comments The three types of readers described were developing, dormant, and underground. But Miller emphasizes that these are all READERS. They all have the same potential if given the right amount of encouragement and freedom.
Developing readers are the 'struggling' ones. They usually aren't reading at grade level and need a little extra help. Miller argues that developing readers need to be reading for pleasure just as often as proficient readers in order to transform into proficient readers.
Dormant readers are those who do not consider themselves as readers. They rarely, if ever, read for pleasure and only read required materials for class. They are capable readers, but unmotivated by reading.
Underground readers love to read for pleasure, but they often put school on the back burner. They find the material assigned in class uninteresting and prefer to engage themselves in their own books.


message 22: by Lauren (new)

Lauren The developing readers are the first type of readers. They have the idea that they are poor readers and generally do not enjoy reading because of that. miller states that these students have the potential to become good readers as long as they are able to find books that really interest them.

The dormant readers are next. Dormant readers are readers who just don't enjoy reading. They read what they have to and that's about it. They tend to be overlooked because they still perform well on tests. They rarely, if ever, read on their own time.

The last type of reader is the underground reader. These are the people who love reading. They generally do not enjoy reading books for class because they hate how the class drags the book out. They would rather finish it right away then have to read chapter by chapter. They can often be found with a book in front of their face.


message 23: by Mr. (new)

Mr. C | 11 comments The first type is the developing reader. The biggest thing to me that describes this group is how they view themselves. Because of past failure of exams or reading below reading level, they view themselves as not having a "natural" ability to read. They may think they will never get there. They are typically below grade level in reading. The authors example of a success story in this area and the need for many hours of reading was encouraging and convicting.

The second type of reader is the dormant reader. They see reading as work and not as something they would do when they are not required to do so. They take the reading tests and always do well, but they are not interested in reading on their own. Most readers fall into this catergory. Through showing these readers books that interest them and recommendations, they can be shown that reading is just as or more enjoyable as a movie.

The third type of reader is the underground reader. They are reading books without the teacher saying anything. They love that a book can transport them to different worlds. They normally think that teachers can get in the way of their reading interests, and when reading a book together as a class, they finish it way ahead of schedule.


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