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How much voldemort did voldemort actually have?
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Tim wrote: "I never said she was the boa. I was thinking of the event where he killed the muggle caretaker. he saw out in the grave yard and followed the snakes path into the room with Voldermort. Now please ..."
Dumbledore never outright told Harry he was a horcrux. It was in Snape's memories.
Tim wrote: "I never said she was the boa. I was thinking of the event where he killed the muggle caretaker. he saw out in the grave yard and followed the snakes path into the room with Voldermort. Now please ..."
Dumbledore never outright told Harry he was a horcrux. It was in Snape's memories.
I thought Dumbledore just said Harry was the horcrux "he never intended to make"
AND THAT KIDS IS WHY YOU DONT MAKE HORCRUXS. THE THING WILL HAVE MORE YOU THAT YOU HAVE YOUR SELF
Shut Up, I'm Reading. wrote: "AND THAT KIDS IS WHY YOU DONT MAKE HORCRUXS. THE THING WILL HAVE MORE YOU THAT YOU HAVE YOUR SELF"I love this comment!
I have pondered this, but not in so much depth. I adore your pie chart. I guess all it would take is enough Voldemort for one cell.
Rachel Paige It's just so thought out! Every single detail was planned to perfection! That s why they're instant classics!
Agreed, Rachel Paige! This is what I'm constantly trying to explain to the haters who won't read the books!
Agreed, Rachel Paige! This is what I'm constantly trying to explain to the haters who won't read the books!
I just shared this, with your pie chart, on my Facebook author page. I credited you as well as I could!
The pie chart I believe is correct to Horace Slughorn's explanation of the Horcruxes to Tom Riddle. we have no proof on what order Tom riddle could have made his horcruxes in. Harry could have been the last Horcrux he made.
splitting a sole into seven pieces would leave Tom riddle with 1/125 or 0.8% of his sole. he would have been stuffed if the Dementers Weren't his allies. then why doesn't he walk around like a person without a sole since he doesn't have much of one in his body?
"isn't it bad enough to think of killing one person"
Again He wasn't even human then. He was a spirit until the end of the Goblet of fire. In book one we find him having trouble with even some of the simple magics and feeding off unicorns. In book two destroying the book didn't help. In goblet of fire we find him feeding off a potion made from snake milk. a body of his own but not quite. He needed help into the pot.The woman was not mentioned until the next book and I am not sure of the time of her absents but thought it was in the summer following GOF
I LOVE the chart!!!!it makes me wonder though if the fact that each horcrux has less and less of his soul means that destroying the diary had more effect than destroying the diadem for example? once there are multiple horcruxes does the percentage of soul in each one have any effect?
Shahdia wrote: "Harry wasn't the last Horcrux. Harry was made on that night in Godric's Hollow when his parents died.
Nagini was made after the death of Bertha Jorkins before Goblet of Fire."
I remember thinking about that. that if he could kill and get info Bertha Jorkins and the muggle he would be able to create another horcrux because from what ive heard they both require murder right?
Babafaba(Hypnos)((Albus Percival Wulfric Brian Dumbledore))(((Scuttle)))((((Scar)))) wrote: "Jordan wrote: "The pie chart I believe is correct to Horace Slughorn's explanation of the Horcruxes to Tom Riddle. we have no proof on what order Tom riddle could have made his horcruxes in. Harr..."
did I say sole? opps I did I've started the argument on the wrong shoe or foot and An Horcrux can be a shoe anyway Horcruxes can be anything
WHO CARES HOW I SPELL SOUL, u no wat i ment. but ill keep that in mind when i say something like "i have no sole inside of me their on my feet/in my shoes"
Ok well since you split your soul in half every time you make a horcrux and he made a horcrux after he made Harry one (Nagini)of course Harry had more Voldemort in him than Voldemort himself.
The Horcrux thing is fairly strange since lots of people get murdered in HP and those people aren't making horcruxes. Yes, it does involve some nasty spell work (maybe a potion you have to drink?) but I think also it has to be a murder merely for personal gain- not out of self preservation. But that's just a guess. I did get the impression that the process torn one's soul in half, but I think the book says 'in two' so my interpretation of that was in half.
It is also good to recall that the lack of soul didn't reduce Voldemort's intelligence or power, just perhaps his humanity. Which in that case, it makes a lot more sense that the diary, Harry, and Nagini had more V soul than Voldemort.
I do like the chart, even if not proved true! Though we do know that the ring was probably made before the cup or locket since Harry sees Tom wearing the ring in the memory while he's still at school. He doesn't procure the cup or locket until after graduation. Though, we don't know when he actually turned those things into horcruxes, whether he made the ring into one when he killed his relatives (and then wore it for awhile) or if he did it later on.
Honestly, I thinkt the chart is as accurate as it ever will be. It doesn't matter if he made the cup before the diadem, or the locket after the cup. The point of this was how absolutly horrifying it is that Harry Potter and Voldemort's pet snake had more of his soul then he did.
I think you're right, Rachel. It isn't possible to get it 100%, but the point gets across. And regardless of what order the Horcruxes were created, the breakdown is the same.
AgCl wrote: "well it never was mentioned if his soul actually gets ripped in equal halves each time, but yeah it would be funny to think all those objects, Harry and Nagini had more Voldy than Voldy himself XD"Yes it is, Slughorn says it's equal halves
Babafaba(Hypnos)((Albus Percival Wulfric Brian Dumbledore))(((Scuttle)))((((Scar)))) wrote: "1)We cannot be sure of the true order. The cup could be before the locket and the ring before the diary!2)I'm not sure your soul gets split in half each time you make a horcrux! Just a part of you..."
there actually is an order
Wait up -- am I the only one confused by "Babbages and Blotts"? What happened to Borgin and Burkes?
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Now please don't miss understand. But Why would a man wanting to get a body and yet still a spirit seek to split that spirit again and weaken his chances of coming back. Voldermort was no fool and he would never have done that until he came back at least.
Pluss Dumbledore said, "Harry is the last horcux." I am not sure who to though as the event is fuzzy. I do think it was told to Snape and was in Snapes memory given to Harry or He said Harry you are. But I think it was the former to Snape.