Encounters with the supernatural

[Cary]

I can dig it. We are what we are. It is what it is. You just have to roll with it. Getting back on tangent. Of expieriencing the supernatural. I wish I had a cool story to tell. I love the Supernatural & the unknown. It is great for stories & folk tales. I just love stoies involving the supernatural. But like the bible the Supernatural can't be taken literaly : )

[Heather]

I tend to find "Walking in the woods and freaking each other out"-style shows to be...boring. You've seen one group of people walking in the woods with nightvision cameras, you've seen them all.

I found shows like Haunted History, with reenactments, to be more entertaining.

I do like the idea behind Fact or Faked. If it can be replicated, maybe it can be faked.

[Cary]

I like stories like the Marie Celeste. A merchent schooner found adrift near Gibraltar. It had been at sea a month. All passengers, and crew were missing. Just one life boat was gone. The ship was fully provissioned, and in good shape. Breakfast was sitting out on the table untouched. Personal possessions left behind. It is one of the great mysteries of the sea, and described as a paranormal event. This is a Victorian Era thing. So if any of you youngsters haven't heard of it check it out. Cary : )

[Jaime]

I am of Mexican ethnicity and have had the benefit of hearing and repeating many tales and folktales. Some are well-known and others are not. The ones that gave me a scare were those involving women, children and unexplained acts. I also enjoy tales of unexplained hauntings.

[Cary]

I wish I could say I had a particular ancestry. If I had to put a name on it I would say Romano Celt Germanic. The Celts were very much believers in Ghosts. Allot of their best literature are ghost stories. Like Dublins Sheridan Le Fanu who wrote a collection called In A Glass Darkly. This collection is from the papers of Occult/Metaphysical physician Martin Hesselius. They are the records of his treating patients with paranormal diseases. The last story in that book is a beautiful vampire story called Carmilla. One of the best vampire pieces ever written. Very deep and thoughtful. Not full of killing, and the romance is very interesting. If you haven't read it. Do so it's free online. I like the Occult beliefs of Polynesia & Hawaii also. I am taking a road trip through the southwest this spring. I am going to try and camp out in ghost towns, and old graveyards along the way in New Mexico & Ariz. : )

[Stephen]

Hi Cary, I don't know if you like Japanese mythology or not. The Polynesian and Hawaiian made me think you might. In any casy you might enjoy my paranormal, action adventure, Nukekubi. It is rather east meets west.

Nukekubi

[James]

Yeah, back on track without the digression. Religion plays a great part in literature, but I can probably comprehend a text without a religious manifesto to help guide me. I think that belongs in another place.

[Cary]

Yeah I can hear that. I used to be stationed in Hawaii so I picked up on some old Hawaiian folk tales. Plus Jack London recorded allot of Hawaiian folk stories that I read. Tales of Hawaii.

[Heather]

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[Stephen]

Very cool Copper-Wings. On other issues, I like a story out of England where there werea long series of independant sightings of a Roman Legonare marching back and forth over a paticular area close to Hadrian's wall. The Legonare was always sunk into the ground to mid thigh. Some one finially dug up the sight and found a Roman road burried about thigh deep where the legonare marched.

[Heather]

I've heard similar stories. I want to say an episode of Haunted History had Civil War-era men/a man buried to the knees in a floor or porch, at about where a previous road/land/house/porch would have been.

[Cary]

Stephen wrote: "Very cool Copper-Wings. On other issues, I like a story out of England where there werea long series of independant sightings of a Roman Legonare marching back and forth over a paticular area close..."

I so dig Roman history. How cool the ghost of a legionary. I think Rome was just totally going on. It is villianized in the Christian Bible. But in the day Rome really was the light. There is a really cool Vampire story called The Mystery of the Campagna about a Roman woman who was vampire. Her name was Vespertilia. A playright discovered the entrance to her tomb in the cellar of his country house. On the top side of her coffin in Latin it read To Vespertilia. Then beneath in Greek was written blood drinker and vampire woman. This is a long short story & very Victorian era classic vampire. Online free at some websites. http://vampiresrealm.files.wordpress....

[Jaime]

I seem to remember that the topic on this strand was about one's supernatural experiences. bringing in one's background or bent to experiencing supernatural events stays within that parameter. Talking about particular subgenres of mythology is a tangent.

So, back to the topic. It is my take that some folks or more prone to experiencing supernatural events because of their experiences and knowledge of what is good and evil.

[Jaime]

Mine was not a manifesto. It was just some background and my take on the subject.

[Cary]

No doubt about it some cultures give allot more credibility to the supernatural. So Jaime have you had a supernatural expierience. The topic was I believe has anyone had a supernatural expierience they could share . I would love to hear someone relate one. Or one you've heard.

[Stephen]

I’ve had several. A rather typical one was I was staying at a friends house while attending the World Fantasy Con in Toronto in 2012. I stepped in looked around and realized I’d seen the place while I was meditation about six months before. I knew to my right was a bed room that in front of me was a kitchen and to my left a living room. About 80% of the general stuff of life like shoes pictures boxes and brooms was exactly as I remembered it. I’d never been in the place before or seen a picture of it. Precog flashes like this happen generally without context so they are generally useless except for reinforcing a view of the non-liner nature of space time.

[Cary]

Hm that's interesting space and time. The way we move through it.

[Stephen]

As was stated in the Hitch Hikers Guid to the Galixy. "Time is an illusion, lunch time doublily so." :-)

[Cary]

OK common has anbody got a ghost encounter. Or wierd happening.

[Stephen]

OK, I feel a little bad about this one. I was doing a Tarot reading in this apartment I use to live in and I felt a prickly feeling on the back of my neck. I turned and saw the bluish haze that normally accompanies a spirit manifestation. I told the entity that I didn’t like being spied on and ended up chasing it into the bathtub. I apologised later for the vehemence of my reaction he was actually a lonely old guy who had lived there before me and was afraid to cross over because he’d had his head filled with the whole vengeful and punitive god concept and was afraid he’d go to hell because he’d liked women in life. He hung around for a while and eventually relaxed around me. I’d talk to him when I was “Alone” and I think he eventually realised he wasn’t such a bad sort after all and crossed over.

[Cary]

Now that was interesting. I have often toyed with getting a tarrot card reading done by a professional. No one does that in Tulsa OK,LOL Maybe I will go to New Orleans

[Stephen]

Just keep in mind that the best psychic on their best day is only about 80% accurate. On a good day I say about a third of all professional psychics are frauds on a bad day I up that to two thirds. The best use of a psychic is to get perspective that you filter with your own common sense. A reading can be useful and give insight but should be never given more credence than you would give a trusted advisor in other areas of life. That said, I think I’ve done some good over the years in helping people sort themselves out.

[Jaime]

I have always felt extreme temps in closed rooms in which strange happenings have taken place. People tell me that this is an indication of good or evil spirits. All I know is that I can sense pure evil or righteousness at different times. It is contended that these are gifts that some of us have in greater measures, depending on the person.

[Stephen]

I'd tend to define it as maliss and good will and for me it is more a fealing like nausia and happy relaxation but I hear you Jaime.

[Jaime]

There are distinct differences between prophets and seers (psychics). The first only speaks of the things of God. The second are confined to knowing of foreshadows affecting people and their earthly concerns.

[Stephen]

Jamie, with all due respect, I think your view is coloured by your religious views which though true to you cannot be used as a measure for others as those others may hold views that are equally as valid objectively but quite different. My crowd aren't big into the other person speaking for our Gods’ business. We strive for and believe in direct communication and recognising that the divine within is a mirror of the divine without and trying to bring them into alignment. As many Pagans view it suffering occurs when the ego is at odds to the divine essence. Thus a message from the soul of a person one may be advising is every bit as valid for that person’s situation as a message from the God that may correspond to the section of that person’s life being discussed.

[Jaime]

It is Jaime. I am not disrespected at all. My views are colored by the acceptance of a divine force and the existence of a battle between what is good (positive) and evil (bad). I do not speak for God for I am a flawed person and not His spokesman. My point is this,
all of us measure what we experience against a code of what is good and evil. Nothing happens by chance. You may argue it but the truth is everything we experience (even supernatural situations) impacts us in way or another. All people, including pagans would agree on that. Personally, I turn to a belief to a creator and His teachings about how to handle, view and combat (when necessary) these forces. I have read many secular and religious books on the matter. As a counselor, it is my bent to research. Finally, I do not judge simply because I profess a faith. Each person has his or her views. In the end, the one that delivers one fulfillment , everlasting peace beyond this worldly existence and freedom will be made clear.

[Jaime]

When I enter certain places, I do feel physical and spiritual reaction. I am not gifted like some I know. My gift is more in knowledge and pro-activity. I would caution 'amateurs' who like to search and confront not to do so. One needs knowledge, a solid base and an ability to deal with the preternatural and supernatural. It is not for the novice.

[Jaime]

BTW, stay away from seances, tarot cards, the Ouija board, crystal balls, et al. Once the door is to the other world is opened, anything can come through and affect the lives of those participating in that activity.

[Stephen]

Jaime, first I apologize for the misspelling. I must have been thinking of my nephew. Second you just made my point about your view being coloured by your beliefs as is my own. These are our subjective realities true to us but not necessarily objectively true. As to the comments regarding séances, tarot cards, the Ouija board, crystal balls and the like. I would suggest that the comment is true in the same way that the comment that a person who knows nothing about electricity should stay away from the wiring in their house is. In the hands of a serious practitioner with a strong knowledge base and experience appropriate to the tool being used they are just that, tools. I will agree however that a bunch of uniformed people fooling around with an Ouija Board is a recipe for disaster.

[Jaime]

Yes and no Stephen> As a devout Christian, I stay away from anything to do with spiritism and animism. The aforementioned items that are used for communing with the spirit world are dangerous in that one deals with stronger powers. I am friends who are New Agers who will tell you that the Ouija board is not something you want to toy with. There have been a very few times when something bad did not come through. The open door allows anything to come through. Every weakness possessed by participants is taken advantage of by spirits. I have several friends who are Wiccans who never use a Ouija board or crystal ball because of the danger. If one is skilled in that (and very few are) I guess you can reduce the risk. But, most people will toy around with these items and have lived to regret it. One does not have to get burned to know that it is dangerous to 'play' with fire. Stephen, I am a Christian now but was once like you, into a lot of this New Age beliefs. I know of what I speak of and now use the knowledge to help others who may get hurt or fooled. I now tackle the preternatural and supernatural from a Christian view.

[Stephen]

I agree in part. The thing about spiritual tools is you have to know how to place your call. Most people who play with an Ouija board don’t know what they are doing. If you “open the door” onto a public street and yell out “Party at my place come on in,” that is dangerous. If you dial a phone number, confirm the being on the other end of the line is of the nature you want to invite and invite them then you’re not likely to have a problem. Incarnate spirits in the material world have the home court advantage. We can and should choose what we gate in carefully.

I would say no one should use a spirit board of any kind unless they can cast a circle, selectively summon, banish, shield and cleanse an area. They aren’t beginner’s tools.

Thus as tools all these things are of value but they must be used as tools. A person who has never used a chainsaw before should at the least read the instruction manual before trying to cut down a tree. For the record I’ve done my fair share of dealing with the messes left behind by people who mucked about with no real understanding and d*** little common sense. I work from a Pagan perspective but am also an archetypest, thus I see your Jesus as being of the same nature as Horus, Apollo, Lug, Thor and many other Gods who represent the perfected man to their respective cultures. The perfected man is a thing to be striven towards though you will never obtain it.
We hold a similar stance of caution, but for those who seriously walk the path of the mystic the benefits of integrating the spiritual, mental and physical is incalculable.

[James]

Yes, I had a strange experience.

I was a learner driver and late one night woke my Mum up, this is at 1am.

I said, "Mum I have to drive to a certain street."

Surprisingly, without qualm she came with me. I did not know why I felt drawn to this street but there was an odd feeling, the ceiling seemed to have tiny almost viable energies you could feel it.

So could my Mum

I drove to the location and found a car accident and an injured man.

We rang the police and an ambulance came and he was treated and recovered.