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Everyone should have the right to ship their own pairings but it would be nice to not bash the canon pairings and rivals to promote their own ship.Francisca wrote: "It's true that she regretted that Hermione had married Ron, it was a mistake."
Actually Rowling said nothing of the sort. You are duped by one of those lying media articles that report on the story. Try to find the full interview and read it and then consider how the relationship panned out in Cursed Child and JKR's other statements on it.
JKR actually warned the reader about fake news in GoF through Rita Skeeter. Amazing how people still don't get it 3 years after the interview was released.
I have a feeling JKR derided the Dramione fans because unfortunately a lot of them have an imaginary version of who Draco is instead of the canon Draco. It's wouldn't be aimed at people who like the pairing in an AU. Also could you show me where did Rowling insult Dramione fans? I don't remember seeing it. Thanks.
Torrent56 wrote: "Everyone should have the right to ship their own pairings but it would be nice to not bash the canon pairings and rivals to promote their own ship.Francisca wrote: "It's true that she regretted t..."
No, I respect it. Each one is free to like, or not. I saw it in an interview. In fact at the time he said he was receiving a lot of Dramione fan letters, and he said that he was very frightened. She gave her understanding at the time that the couple's fans were confusing life fictional with reality, and that these fans were only cheering for the couple by Tom being a very handsome boy. She did use the word "demented". I also said that Draco is not a good boy, that is, he did not deserve all that admiration. I was upset because as everyone is free, she had no right to judge me, or even judge her fans who sent these letters by loving Draco and Hermione.
Francisca wrote: "Torrent56 wrote: "Everyone should have the right to ship their own pairings but it would be nice to not bash the canon pairings and rivals to promote their own ship.Francisca wrote: "It's true th..."
So why did you talk about Romione which really has little to do with the topic on-hand before then? In particular the comments about regrets is based on fake news.
Also Rowling DID give Draco a second chance in canon it just wasn't with Hermione. Draco married Astoria didn't he and had a relatively happy family with her? That is more happiness than Fred, Remus, Tonks, Sirius, Collin, etc. got.
Is there a link that shows Rowling said those things? I don't wish to comment on it unless I see first exactly what she said. This is all I ever found on Dramione from Rowling
Chibimono: Do you have any future plans in particular for Draco Malfoy?
JK Rowling replies -> I've got plans for all my characters. Actually, this is a really good place to answer a question about Draco and Hermione, which a certain Ms. Radcliffe is desperate to have answered. Will they end up together in book six/seven? NO! The trouble is, of course, that girls fancy Tom Felton, but Draco is NOT Tom Felton! (My daughter likes TF very much too, because he taught her how to use a diablo)
Torrent56 wrote: "Francisca wrote: "Torrent56 wrote: "Everyone should have the right to ship their own pairings but it would be nice to not bash the canon pairings and rivals to promote their own ship.Francisca wr..."
Entendo o que queira dizer, Draco tem um futuro melhor, mas sabe eu não sentir que foi bom, ou feliz.
Draco era o vilão, e apesar de Rowling informar que tinha plano para todos os personagens, ela definitivamente não estava feliz com a popularidade do vilão da história.
Tudo bem, depois de uma longa pesquisa encontrei essa entrevista.
http://conteudo.potterish.com/the-lea...
Desculpe, se isso incomoda você, só que como fã de Draco, na época não gostei, e ainda sinto me irritada sobre esse assunto "Dramione".
Francisca wrote: "Torrent56 wrote: "Francisca wrote: "Torrent56 wrote: "Everyone should have the right to ship their own pairings but it would be nice to not bash the canon pairings and rivals to promote their own s..."Not sure what you're trying to do by writing in Portuguese all of a sudden but as I can't read it there's nothing left to say I guess.
Torrent56 wrote: "Francisca wrote: "Torrent56 wrote: "Francisca wrote: "Torrent56 wrote: "Everyone should have the right to ship their own pairings but it would be nice to not bash the canon pairings and rivals to p..."I'm from Brazil, and all Brazilians are used to translating texts, just like I did to talk to you. Can't you do that?
I don't know English, but I used Bing translator. The interview was made by a team from Brazil with Rowling.
I believe it is assumed that the default language on this site is English so yes if you're going to post on this site it is courteous to make things convenient for other viewers you're talking to even if everyone can use a translation tool (like how you should try to speak the local language if you're travelling to another country). You could have made your points in English and just note the interview is Portuguese for instance.Well considering that I never saw Rowling say anything similar in English and I am certain almost all of her interviews are in English I can't say anything about that interview you said. I recommend you read any interviews in the future in English where possible given that incorrect translation of key words are rather common. But yeah the author telling people to not like or like a character really doesn't work. She has to make them likeable or not in the books.
Torrent56 wrote: "I believe it is assumed that the default language on this site is English so yes if you're going to post on this site it is courteous to make things convenient for other viewers you're talking to e..."Goodreads is a global platform, there are readers worldwide. In this way, there are many people who know the basics of English, and no one else is obliged to know the English, each country has a language.
As I have informed, it is not only the Brazilian to venture through other websites and simply translate to understand, it is what anyone would do, unless it is too proud.
It is normal teams of diverse parents search for an author for an interview, there are many bloggers professionals who do this, and I believe that should know, but as I informed, I am from Brazil, and we speak in Portuguese, English, despite an important language is irrelevant, then , this interview is obviously in Portuguese, the content is practically exclusively for this site, so it would be odd another site to copy and publish it on global websites. It's a normal thing.
You can just translate, just like I'm doing. But if you're not interested, that's fine. I didn't insult Rowling in this conversation, but, yes, I feel irritated, as I have already informed.
We will conclude this "discussion" since you do not understand Portuguese and not translate.
I DID translate your comments so that's why I made the comment about Rowling shouldn't declare which characters are likeable or not after the books are published. That interview you mentioned is a really famous interview that was released after the Half Blood Prince book was published. I think this is the relevant part you’re talking about in the original language:
JKR: It amuses me. It honestly amuses me. People have been waxing lyrical [in letters] about Draco Malfoy, and I think that's the only time when it stopped amusing me and started almost worrying me. I'm trying to clearly distinguish between Tom Felton, who is a good looking young boy, and Draco, who, whatever he looks like, is not a nice man. It’s a romantic, but unhealthy, and unfortunately all too common delusion of — delusion, there you go — of girls, and you [nods to Melissa] will know this, that they are going to change someone. And that persists through many women's lives, till their death bed, and it is uncomfortable and unhealthy and it actually worried me a little bit, to see young girls swearing undying devotion to this really imperfect character, because there must be an element in there, that "I'd be the one who [changes him]." I mean, I understand the psychology of it, but it is pretty unhealthy. So, a couple of times I have written back, possibly quite sharply, saying [Laughter], "You want to rethink your priorities here."
I am not sure exactly what the author was thinking when she said but I believe she was aiming at people who got this very wrong idea that bad boys would turn good with enough love from a girl. She was talking about Draco Malfoy the character and NOT the relationship Dramione so I didn’t get your earlier post. Rowling later said in the interview she felt sorry for Draco which is pretty generous you know and she did not mention the ship Dramione anywhere.
(and if you have a problem with Draco being criticised here, you should see how many Dramione shippers hate and bash Ron just because he is a threat)
Why do you feel irritated about the language discussion? OK, if goodreads is a global site in this thread everyone is using English, the topic is in English, everyone else posted in English and the Harry Potter books were originally published in English so I believe it's reasonable to assume everyone who post here will continue to communicate in English directly (my first language is Chinese not English so I am not projecting any arrogance found in some English speakers). People could simply translate their own foreign language post into English before posting it here. If you don't want to do it, it would nice to let people know. This is my view. Let's just end this discussion here and go back to discussing Rowling's comments.
Torrent56 wrote: "I DID translate your comments so that's why I made the comment about Rowling shouldn't declare which characters are likeable or not after the books are published. That interview you mentioned is ..."
I am not annoyed about the criticism about Draco, I have pleta that people think differently and so they have divergent opinions.
About English, I don't think anything about it, but it really annoyed me to see you upset about me disenjoying in Portuguese as if I couldn't just tradutir to understand. There are many translators in Google. It is a bit annoying I come and always translate English to Portuguese, as if the other person could not do the same, even more when they say mplsly that I was not understanding, as you did.
Let's not quote Rowling, even because I'm not a big fan of this author, and it's unfair I criticize her that way, I'm not, but it seems like you think I am. So I'd rather just forget about it.
Draco Malfoy is a character like any other, a beloved villain, by accompanying him in the series, I couldn't see him on the prospects of how wrong he is even when he had the chance to do the right thing. Maybe because he's too scared. I don't care much for how beautiful the actor looks, Draco and Tom are different people, I know how to separate real life from fictional, and I don't know anything about Tom, my admiration is for Draco. I think he's just very pitiful, and deserved a chance, and that's what I gave to see him about another angle in the story.
Although it's still a ring, it's nice to talk to someone like
You, it seems to me very involved about the story of Harry Potter, which is not my case, I see this series as one of great success, there are many others and I know that for you too, then it is not common for me to continue a conversation like this.
I am NOT thinking you're unfairly criticising Rowling, where did you get the impression? It's perfectly fair to criticise an author. I only said you thought she was critcising Dramione when in fact she expressed some annoyance at Draco the character, a sentiment she tempered with the assertion that she felt sorry for Draco in the end. I do not have much sympathy with Malfoy myself since he clearly knew what he was doing when he was being a bully, joining Umbridge's Inquisitorial Squad and signing up to become a Death Eater among others but I can understand why you feel he should pitied as well. If we can agree Dramione is something that should be kept in alternate universe, then let's just end the discussion here.
Susy wrote: "oh gosssshh but she also confirmed harmony though"Harry and Hermione are like brother and sister ew
deleted user wrote: "Um, Hermione is more strong-willed than that. I'm sorry, but I doubt that Hermione could fall for Malfoy after he called her a Mudblood. Snape was forgivable, he only used it once, when he was real..."Ron may of not called her a mudblood but he did bad talk her when she had no friends, and due to that he put her life at risk.
Sabreen wrote: "You guys realize this is fiction, right? There are no facts of what happened and what didn't happen. I don't care if Rowling confirmed it. If it's not in the books, it's not a part of the storyline..."Yes, I definitely agree with this.
all of this stanning of Dramione makes absolutely zero sense to me you can't get around the fact that he was racist and pretty much a horrible person. It just furthers the idea that just if a man is mean to you he must like you??? what!? There is absolutely no evidence that Draco and Hermione would have ended up together. He literally watched his aunt torture Hermione and did absolutely nothing how could Hermione ever ever be able to get past that. He watched her dying and did nothing.
Fake news; JKR has clearly stated in multiple interviews she dislikes Draco.Jily/Snily are completely two different stories than Dramione. James never wished death upon her or bullied her merclissly; Snape was her friend at one point and did care for her in his own way. Draco on the other hand bullied Hermione relentlessly, wished death upon her twice, etc. And even if Draco apologized profusely you can't get over years of abuse like that. Also what do they even have in common?
Every HP story we know, a Slytherin has a crush on a Gryffindor.Ex:- Snape and Lily / Draco and Hermione / Scorpius and Rose
°• Mystical Slytherclaw •° wrote: "Every HP story we know, a Slytherin has a crush on a Gryffindor.Ex:- Snape and Lily / Draco and Hermione / Scorpius and Rose"
Draco never had a thing for Hermione; he wished death on her and called her slurs. There's absolutely no canon evidence for Dramione, just in fanon unless you somehow think their interactions are romantic. I agree with the rest though...
☾ Luna ☽ wrote: "°• Mystical Slytherclaw •° wrote: "Every HP story we know, a Slytherin has a crush on a Gryffindor.Ex:- Snape and Lily / Draco and Hermione / Scorpius and Rose"
Draco never had a thing for Hermi..."
Draco DID have a crush on her. J.K Rowling said that Draco did have a crush on Hermione and that he didn't express it because of her blood status. She even considered making Dramione canon but didn't because it would be a major plot twist.
Not sure? Check it on google.
Feliks wrote: "I can confirm.. y'all need to get a life."me oh my 2014 people...
Me literally reading an argument on this topic from 6 years ago😭
They are my Roman empire my dramione heart is happy i love her with ron but ... I've always adored draco so my two all time favorite carecters together yes please
deleted user wrote: "This is sooooo awesome!!!!omg!!!! I knew it!!!
But still, Ron is one of my favorites sooooo you know I like him with Hermione.
But I do like the idea of Dramione too!!!!!"
Sameee!!!
Dramione is just the best ship ever 🫶🏻🫶🏻
That isn't true. ROWLING CONFIRMED HARIMIONE!
Ikr this is amazing, we can only wish it would have ended up in the books…
This is so interesting!
The only thing wrong with this series is that Draco and Harry never got together
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I love Draco, I've always had a soft spot for the baddie of the story."
Wow, after so many people are still talking about it. I don't know what you've given me the last few days, I've been thinking about Draco and Hermione.
I believe you've already searched and Rowling called the Dramione fans of "demented".
As not a fan of the story, but a fan of what sounds different, and in the case of Hermione and Draco This is very understandable, but if she really scogitou the possibility of the two being together at the end, that was very superficial. It's true that she regretted that Hermione had married Ron, it was a mistake. I also believe that as painful as it was for Hermione's relationship with Draco, she was the only one who could take him out of darkness and take him not to light, but to a comfortable place for both.
And I ask myself today, why not? Why was DRAMIONE not possible?
Okay, Rowling, Draco is not a nice guy, but did he not deserve a second chance? To find happiness? Rowling's thought about Draco is horrible, and insulting fans by thinking differently, makes me indignant.