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The King James Bible is one book that I'd save in a world fire.
Books are a sin against God. Books distract us from the Truth. But, as they say, Beware the man of one book.
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Really? Those are rather extreme views for a secular book discussion group of this nature... why bother joining a book club then, that is clearly dedicated to open views, to discussing secular books, and to tolerance across the board?
Well, they say tolerance is actually a misnomer; an impossibility, for "tolerance" does not really tolerate the intolerant very well, and if not, the tolerant becomes intolerant per se; so I am well aware of that little conundrum.
No doubt a situation which could be causing entertainment to onlookers.
Traveller wrote: "Greg wrote: "Books are a sin against God. Books distract us from the Truth. But, as they say, Beware the man of one book."
Really? Those are rather extreme views for a secular book discussion grou..."
Obviously, the word "but" means nothing to you.
Really? Those are rather extreme views for a secular book discussion grou..."
Obviously, the word "but" means nothing to you.
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Traveller wrote: "Yes, well, especially since the first sentence in the post I was quoting, was stated as fact. No matter, each person is entitled to their own views of course - and as long as any strong views remai..."
The Bible is a book.
The Bible is a book.
The Bible is absurd, it is unintentionally funny.
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Well, actually, not really. The Bible was initially an oral tradition. It was only penned down later. So, NOW it is a book yes, but in essence... not initially. Besides, it is composed of a variety of different texts, and which texts are included, seems to be dependent on the whim of the clergy.
In any case, if you feel that books are sinful, why do you read them and aim to discuss them?
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Sigh. If you've been in jest, you do it well.
Traveller wrote: "Greg wrote: "The Bible is a book. ..."
Well, actually, not really. The Bible was initially an oral tradition. It was only penned down later. So, NOW it is a book yes, but in essence... not initial..."
Because I am secular and have no time for idiots.
Well, actually, not really. The Bible was initially an oral tradition. It was only penned down later. So, NOW it is a book yes, but in essence... not initial..."
Because I am secular and have no time for idiots.
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Traveller wrote: "Okay, you had me for a while, though I did have a distinct river-y aroma around the nostrils from the start. I just wasn't sure which variety of bridge -dweller I was dealing with. ;) No worries, a..."
If you were worried over what I said about the King James Bible, Christopher Hitchens was of the same opinion as me - it's great literature. And, as Isaac Asimov said, "Properly read, the Bible is the most potent force for atheism ever conceived."
If you were worried over what I said about the King James Bible, Christopher Hitchens was of the same opinion as me - it's great literature. And, as Isaac Asimov said, "Properly read, the Bible is the most potent force for atheism ever conceived."
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No, I was worried about your comment that books are a sin against God. Remember you had posted on the other thread as well, so taken in context with some of your other posts, I thought you were possibly being sincere about that aspect, though it was of course a joke... No worries, though, as I said. I did suspect that somewhere 2 and 2 was not making 4. :P
I have got a review up for the Bible here on GR, actually, and yeah, though I personally do not enjoy the literary style or the content of the OT, I do actually believe that Jesus was a historical person, and I definitely agree with the general gist of his teachings. I personally believe that he rebelled against a lot of the OT narrowmindedness and that whatever he might really have said was of course twisted to suit the purposes of whomever found it convenient to do so.
...but back to the Bible, whatever else it may be, it was HUGELY influential in Western culture.
Traveller wrote: "Greg wrote: "The Bible is absurd, it is unintentionally funny."
Sigh. If you've been in jest, you do it well."
As Karl Marx said, "I treat the ridiculous seriously when I treat it with ridicule." I hardly ever mock the Bible. I will usually contest it but that is all.
Sigh. If you've been in jest, you do it well."
As Karl Marx said, "I treat the ridiculous seriously when I treat it with ridicule." I hardly ever mock the Bible. I will usually contest it but that is all.
Traveller wrote: "Greg wrote: "Traveller wrote: "Okay, you had me for a while, though I did have a distinct river-y aroma around the nostrils from the start. I just wasn't sure which variety of bridge -dweller I was..."
Books are a sin against the Truth, and I am a sinner.
Books are a sin against the Truth, and I am a sinner.
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Sigh. If you've been in jest, you do it well."
As Karl Marx said, "I treat the ridiculous seriously when I treat ..."
Ha, I meant with your ... general er... you had me trying to place you into a ... trying to place you on a discrete place on a spectrum of possibilities where I could get a better idea of where you were coming from. One will only get to see that if you draw the other person out, and I guess we've both been doing that in our respective ways.
Anyway, it's been nice chatting, I have to log off for now. If you have joined the group in all sincerity, I hope you enjoy it and your stay here on Goodreads. Have fun sinning your way into the night! :)
Traveller wrote: "Greg wrote: "Traveller wrote: "Greg wrote: "The Bible is absurd, it is unintentionally funny."
Sigh. If you've been in jest, you do it well."
As Karl Marx said, "I treat the ridiculous seriously ..."
Sin is always pleasurable.
Sigh. If you've been in jest, you do it well."
As Karl Marx said, "I treat the ridiculous seriously ..."
Sin is always pleasurable.
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If only that would fit on a bumper sticker... I left the Christian church largely because of the Paulian influence.