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I'm really liking it too! Sometimes the detail of the southern environment and the balminess described almost weights me down. I want to run with this book but the author does a wonderful job describing the climate of the south in much detail. It forces me to slow down and invest in the surroundings that I'm reading about.
quick question is this clearing by heather or tim
I was trying to get the book but 2 books by 2 diffrent people came up. one by heather and other one by tim.
wihhc one do i need to get thanks.
I was trying to get the book but 2 books by 2 diffrent people came up. one by heather and other one by tim.
wihhc one do i need to get thanks.
Erika wrote: "quick question is this clearing by heather or tim
I was trying to get the book but 2 books by 2 diffrent people came up. one by heather and other one by tim.
wihhc one do i need to get thanks."
Tim Gautreaux Erika I think you will like this book. I still lack about 40% of the book but enjoyable read so far.
I was trying to get the book but 2 books by 2 diffrent people came up. one by heather and other one by tim.
wihhc one do i need to get thanks."
Tim Gautreaux Erika I think you will like this book. I still lack about 40% of the book but enjoyable read so far.
thanks that makes things easier
I got a couple of chapters in last night and I have to agree with Laura. His powers of description force the reader to slow down and enjoy the journey. I really like it so far.
Finished last night....great group read that I really enjoyed! Here are a few thoughts....
https://www.goodreads.com/review/show...
https://www.goodreads.com/review/show...

Debbie wrote: ""...his stovepipe arms suggested that he'd cut his way to Nimbus. His skin was hot, satin black of a locomotive, and his eyes were crimson..." Such detail for a minor character. The author paints..."
Agree, I wanted to read fast to see what happens next but the details force a slower pace. Very good reading selection this month!
Agree, I wanted to read fast to see what happens next but the details force a slower pace. Very good reading selection this month!
Laura wrote: "Debbie wrote: ""...his stovepipe arms suggested that he'd cut his way to Nimbus. His skin was hot, satin black of a locomotive, and his eyes were crimson..." Such detail for a minor character. Th..."
I've had Gautreaux on my shelf for far too long. I'm looking forward to the read. I'm deep into The Keepers of the House today.
Mike
I've had Gautreaux on my shelf for far too long. I'm looking forward to the read. I'm deep into The Keepers of the House today.
Mike


The online interview that you reference (http://www.southernspaces.org/2009/in... fascinating, just a guy talking about his writing based on his life experience:
I don't think of myself as any particular type of writer. I am what I am. I was born in a certain area of the country, and the people around me happen to speak a certain way and have a certain set of values, and pursue a certain type of lifestyle, and that's all I know. That's where I draw my characters; that's where I draw my dialogue, my sense of timing, my values. If I were raised in some other area, naturally, I would be drawing on some other set of characters and culture. So I don't think that I have to ennoble or expose a particular type of culture. I don't feel a particular duty to region. I just weave narrative out of where I'm from.

GAUTREAUX: Many of the uncles in my family were in World War I, and they all came back with their stories, and I heard a lot of them. The Clearing, of course, is about this damaged veteran who returns shell-shocked. I had an uncle that was in all eight major American engagements and endured some horrible things. And I knew what it was that he endured through family stories and through talking with him because he lived to be quite old. I knew him many, many years. Of course he was very unlike the character in The Clearing, but nevertheless I could draw on the psychological damage that I witnessed in him to develop the Byron character in that novel.
See more at: http://www.southernspaces.org/2009/in...

GAUTREAUX: The point of view characters are the two outlanders from Pennsylvania. That was done to open up the novel to all readers so that we wouldn't have so much a hermetically sealed, southern novel with southerners looking at southerners. We have a novel in which these northerners are looking at the culture and the people down here, and the readers in Minnesota or Oregon or Canada look at things through the main characters' eyes. The non-southern point of view makes The Clearing less of a southern novel, and I think improves it, broadens it.
- See more at: http://www.southernspaces.org/2009/in...
I just turned the last page of this novel and can't find enough good things to say about it. Gautreaux was unknown to me before this, so a big thank you to whoever nominated it. What a novelist this guy is! For anyone who was thinking of skipping this one, do yourself a favor and change your mind. All of the characters were tightly drawn and memorable, but I'm going to be thinking about that blind horse for a long time.
Diane wrote: "I just turned the last page of this novel and can't find enough good things to say about it. Gautreaux was unknown to me before this, so a big thank you to whoever nominated it. What a novelist t..."
Diane,
I agree with your comments, I too loved the book and loved the memorable characters. As a female I thought the wives were very strong characters putting up with alot. To the point they were almost too good and too accommodating to there spouses and surroundings. They seemed so accepting of all the circumstances.
Diane,
I agree with your comments, I too loved the book and loved the memorable characters. As a female I thought the wives were very strong characters putting up with alot. To the point they were almost too good and too accommodating to there spouses and surroundings. They seemed so accepting of all the circumstances.
I agree, but Lillian surprised me with her emerging strength and common sense. At the beginning, I had her pegged as a weak little whiner. Ella seemed stronger from the outstart, maybe because she was a farm girl from Kansas, so my perception of her was different. There was certainly a mixture of people and cultures in that sawmill in the swamp.
Loved Lillian! They were very strong and willing to adapt to all types of environments. Because they were so strong I'm surprised author didn't voice more of their thoughts and opinions. They made decisions, yes, but really not much voiced on how they felt. I felt like I made some assumptions to what they were thinking and feeling.

I hope it turns out that this guy writer wrote strong women characters. That would be a treat to see a guy writer do that. But I am sorry to say that Laura's words don't make me think of strong women: putting up with, accommodating, accepting. But the setting of the story makes me think that we are going to have macho guys up the proverbial wazoo.
Larry, sometimes putting up with and accepting takes more strength than you know. Yes, I think Gautreaux did write strong women characters that made a difference. Macho men, that too, but with their weaknesses also. And by the way, thanks for posting that interview with him, it was a great resource.

I do think that macho men require some putting up with and accepting - especially with their weaknesses! But is that a good thing? I am looking forward to seeing how this story sorts that out.
I think both ladies chose their battles they wanted to engage in. Don't want to spoil anything with details.

Maybe someone could briefly describe what a spoiler is? On the one hand, telling how a story ends is an obvious spoiler but it seems like discussing character development (e.g. strong women) is not spoiling anything but would give something to think about while reading. I think that classifying information as a spoiler can inhibit some good discussion.
Well, if you talk about the character weaknesses and strengths, etc I don't think it's a spoiler but if you start talking about why they handle certain things in the book then you might be telling too much about what's about to take place.


During Vietnam some of us put the flag stamp on letters upside down as a distress signal. Even today some of us, when stuck with a flag stamp, will put it on upside down. I guess a symbol for the law upside down might be similar.
By the way, the Spoilers Welcome comment section is doing some business for those who might be interested in some fear free words.
Diane wrote: "I'm not sure Mike set one of those up yet."
Yep. Diane, you're absolutely right. Consider it a facet of the aging process. My thanks to Larry for setting up the discussion topic. I'm still into The Keepers of the House and loving it.
Mike
Yep. Diane, you're absolutely right. Consider it a facet of the aging process. My thanks to Larry for setting up the discussion topic. I'm still into The Keepers of the House and loving it.
Mike
Larry wrote: "I have solved the short term problem by creating a Spoilers Welcome comment section! Spoil away freely."
Thank you, Sir!
Mike
Thank you, Sir!
Mike
Larry wrote: "Four stars!
My review: https://www.goodreads.com/review/show..."
I'll look forward to your review when I've completed my read. And, so, on to the book.
Mike
My review: https://www.goodreads.com/review/show..."
I'll look forward to your review when I've completed my read. And, so, on to the book.
Mike


During Vietnam some of us put the flag stamp on letters upside down as a distress ..."
Thanks, Larry. I like that explanation, seems more relevant. The only thing I came up with was in regards to an 1891 New Orleans PD Superintendent who was pinned upside down with the comment, "Now you will stand out," and it went on to become a tradition.
what I really like about this book is the plot and people in the book.
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