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Nigeyb | 4546 comments Mod
File under better late than never


Five for Friday…

George McRae - It’s Been So Long
Barry White - Let The Music Play
Showaddywaddy - Hey Rock N Roll
Captain and Tennille - Love Will Keep Us Together
Roxy Music - Editions of You

….and five more….

Harry Nilsson - Jump Into the Fire
Sister Sledge - I Want Your Love
Jimmy Cliff - Vietnam
Honey Cone - No Monkey Don’t Stop No Show
Ben E King - Supernatural Thing

Have a great weekend


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Nigeyb | 4546 comments Mod
Put these in your Hamiltonian pipe and inhale deeply....


Mott the Hoople - Golden Age of Rock n Roll
Millie Small - My Boy Lollipop
The Chiffons - Sweet Talking Guy
The Glitter Band - The Tears I Cried
The Foundations - Baby, Now That I've Found You

Have a simply wonderful weekend


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Mark Rubenstein | 1510 comments Here’s one for Friday, but what a one!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_co...

Not yet released, but already a solid contender for best of 2019.


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Nigeyb | 4546 comments Mod
Thanks Mark - a fun song and a great video


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Nigeyb | 4546 comments Mod
And a quick five to kickstart the weekend...


Roy Budd - Get Carter
The Premiers - Farmer John
The Four Tops - 7 Rooms of Gloom
Max Romeo - Chase The Devil
The Kinks - Autumn Almanac

Have a most agreeable weekend Hamiltonians


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Mark Rubenstein | 1510 comments Nigeyb wrote: "Roy Budd - Get Carter..."

Have you, by any chance, picked up the new Cherry Red edition of the soundtrack, the one expanded to three discs? I haven’t, but I’m a bit curious.


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I haven't Mark - first I've heard of it


I like the soundtrack, especially the main theme, and have a single disc version. I find it hard to imagine a three disc version would really add much to the experience

It turns out the third disc is other tracks by Roy Budd and not related to the actual film....

https://www.cherryred.co.uk/product/g...


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Mark Rubenstein | 1510 comments Interesting, but maybe not essential. It also looks like they’ve handed a few tracks over to contemporary guys for remixing, which strikes me as a potential atrocity.

Are you familiar with any other works by Roy Budd? Only knowing Get Carter, I’ve always been slightly curious about how his other works stack up.


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Nigeyb | 4546 comments Mod
Only a handful of Roy Budd tracks on compilations. All are pretty good and in a similar jazzy vein to Get Carter. Some have vocalists on.


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Nigeyb | 4546 comments Mod
Turns out he released a fair amount of material...


https://www.discogs.com/artist/10092-...


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Nigeyb | 4546 comments Mod
Biography from AllMusic....


British film music composer Roy Budd was born in London on March 14, 1947; a child prodigy, he taught himself to play piano by ear, later mastering the Wurlitzer organ as well. Making his London Coliseum debut at the age of six, by 12 Budd was regularly appearing on television, also performing for the royal family at the London Palladium; as a teen he formed a jazz trio with bassist Pete Morgan and drummer Chris Karan, quitting school at 16 to play professionally. While in residence at the London club the Bull's Head, Budd was befriended by composer Jack Fishman, who helped him land a record contract with Pye Records; his debut single, 1965's "Birth of the Budd," was followed two years later by the full-length Pick Yourself Up!! This Is Roy Budd. In the wake of 1968's Roy Budd at Newport, he made his first foray into film composition with his soundtrack to 1970's Soldier Blue; later that same year, Budd completed arguably his most celebrated score, for Mike Hodges' cult favorite Get Carter. He remained one of the busiest composers in British film throughout the decade, scoring well over two dozen pictures including 1971's Kidnapped, 1973's The Stone Killer and 1978's The Wild Geese; Budd also continued making solo recordings, in 1976 issuing Everything's Coming Up Roses: The Musical World of Stephen Sondheim. The hectic pace clearly took its toll, however, and shortly after completing a new symphonic score for the 1925 silent adaptation of The Phantom of the Opera, Budd died suddenly on August 7, 1993 at the age of just 46.


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Nigeyb | 4546 comments Mod
This looks to be the best Budd comp....


https://www.allmusic.com/album/get-bu...


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Mark Rubenstein | 1510 comments Nice detective work, there. Thanks. I'll be on a mission to scoop up a copy of that compilation, which seems like a good way to sample his other works. Eager to hear more!


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Nigeyb | 4546 comments Mod
I saw Edwyn Collins on Wednesday night and he was magnficent, as always. It's a miracle that he can still record and perform after his stroke, so here's an Edwyn inspired five....

Edwyn Collins - Don't Shilly Shally
Orange Juice - What Prescence?!
Orange Juice - Falling and Laughing
Orange Juice - I Guess I'm Just A Little Too Sensitive
Edwyn Collins - Means To An End

Have a great weekend groovers




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Mark Rubenstein | 1510 comments Five For Friday’s a bit of a stretch for me. More often than not, Two For Friday is a daunting task. So here’s my One For Friday.

A brand new one from an old friend in London. If this don’t turn you on, you ain’t got no switch...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdinZ...


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Nigeyb | 4546 comments Mod
Woah


Utterly fantastic

What a performance


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Nigeyb | 4546 comments Mod
I see they had an album out in 2006 as well as this new one....


https://www.discogs.com/artist/243111...

Is the Shakedown Gospel long player all as good as that song you posted Mark?


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Mark Rubenstein | 1510 comments A proper floor-shaker, ain’t it?

No idea what to tell you about the rest of their stuff, mainly because I’ve only bought the new album -- digitally, off Amazon -- about ten minutes ago. So far, though, yeah, it’s all excellent.

If you like, I can upload it for you later today?

I can tell you, though, that the album contains a different version of that particular track, with a different woman singing. The video version of the track is available separately.


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Nigeyb | 4546 comments Mod
It's flipping great Mark


I'm just listening to a preview of it on iTunes - it seems to run the gamut of blues, soul, rockabilly and gospel. The alternate version of Joy is just as good as the video version - perhaps even better, but not much in it.

The album is £6.99 on iTunes so I'll just buy it - that way the band might see 50 pence. Every little helps.


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Mark Rubenstein | 1510 comments Fair play, let me know if you change your mind.

I’ve listened to most of now, one time through, and nothing disappoints. There’s my weekend soundtracked, then!


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Nigeyb | 4546 comments Mod
Talking of fun stuff on YouTube....


https://youtu.be/eGvulXI4bm0
The New Piccadillys - Complete Control

How this one had passed me by for so long I have no idea

I love it

I tracked down the album which also has a version of Judy Is a Punk


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Mark Rubenstein | 1510 comments I stumbled upon that one earlier in the week. Not sure why I neglected to post the link here, so very glad to see you do it.

I checked out some of their other efforts on YouTube and, just as my hunch had it, their schtick starts to wear a bit thin. But I really dug this one -- their take on Led Zep’s Rock & Roll, welded to Surfin’ Bird by The Trashmen...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CX-Pl...


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Nigeyb | 4546 comments Mod
^ That's another goodie


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Nigeyb | 4546 comments Mod
Here's yer five...


Ashton, Gardener and Dyke - Resurrection Shuffle
Gunther Kallman Choir - Daydream
The Congos - Congoman
Pete Moore and his Orchestra - For What It’s Worth
Giorgio Moroder - Utopia

Have a great weekend


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Nigeyb | 4546 comments Mod
Have yerselves a spiffing weekend. Here's a five for ya...


Robert Knight - Love on a Mountain Top
Jook - Different Class
Kenny - The Bump
Roy Budd - Jazz It Up
Love Unlimited - Walkin’ in the Rain With the One I Love


Float, float on Hamiltonians


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Nigeyb | 4546 comments Mod
Here’s yer five


Hello - Keeps Us Off The Streets
Gunther Kallman Choir - Daydream
Pantherman - Pantherman
Blondie / Philip Glass - From The Heart Of Glass
Goldfrapp - Ooh La La

Have a wonderful weekend




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David | 1065 comments I’ve not offered one of these for....oooh ages.

Teddy Pendergrass (find the recent docu-drama if you can)
https://youtu.be/RvdOvUv0mYk

Los Lobos, playing away from Molineux, at their soulful best
https://youtu.be/BwcVtoYbV-I

Gerry, at his very early zenith (get the new Cherry Red double which has everything he laid down on Transatlantic)
https://youtu.be/TG0x79sboZM

Man and woman split. No kids, but the record collection has to be divided... is there a better line anywhere than “we are as alike as Gladys Knight and Doris Day”? I miss this genius.
https://youtu.be/gB1AC4ApHPU

And the best weekend advice I know, even if your football team of choice is crap (temporarily).
https://youtu.be/CAfaR6IuO-4

Go to it, people.


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Nigeyb | 4546 comments Mod
Great work David


I am really looking forward to that Teddy P doc

Never investigated Gerry Rafferty - I'll have a amble about his oeuvre when I have a chance

Michael Marra is a completely new name to me - seems to have a devoted following

Be Young Be Foolish Be Happy - solid gold and an all time favourite

Don't let the rain get you down, it's a waste of time


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David | 1065 comments I saw the Teddy film in our local independent fleapit earlier this year, and it’s full of joy, sadness and hope.

The good news is that it has a BBC4 imprint on it, so I imagine it’ll turn up soon on one of that channel’s magnificent Friday evening funkfests.

Gerry is a long-time hero. Can I Have My Money Back? is the one classic album from 71 that David Hepworth omitted in his extremely-worthy account of that year, defined as rock n roll’s high water mark. He deserved his later commercial success, but his 69-71 material is his best, much of it worthy of the ‘Scotland’s McCartney’ tag he was given.


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Nigeyb | 4546 comments Mod
Dancing our way into the weekend


Five for Friday…

Roxy Music - Ladytron
Jerry Lee Lewis - Lewis Boogie
The Fall - Mr Pharmacist
The Coasters - Love Potion No. 9
Dan Auerbach - Malibu Man

Have a good one Hamiltonians




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CQM | 242 comments John & Jehn - Long Ride Home
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tltd...

Damien Jurardo and Richard Swift - If the Sun Stops Shinin'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmq_I...

Johnny Flynn - Detectorists Theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5LbT...

Ben Dickey & Alia Shawkat - Blaze and Sybil's Lullaby
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73HpA...

Dan Penn - Nobody's Fool
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElUc_...


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Nigeyb | 4546 comments Mod
Splendid selections CQM


I adore that Detectorist's theme song

And two new names for me to conjure with....

John & Jehn

+

Ben Dickey & Alia Shawkat

....or should that be four new names?


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CQM | 242 comments Nigeyb wrote: "Splendid selections CQM


I adore that Detectorist's theme song

And two new names for me to conjure with....

John & Jehn

+

Ben Dickey & Alia Shawkat

....or should that be four new names?"


I love the Detectorists theme tune mostly because it makes me think of the show and that is a fantastic show. Been loving getting reacquainted with it thanks to the Saturday night repeats on BBC4.


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David | 1065 comments The last really essential T Rex single. And Danny Baker revealed the identity of the enigmatic Jungle Face Jake on his May tour.

https://youtu.be/nYUkAXrqWvY

Over-use of mind-expanding substances suspected. I played Wheels Of Fire to death when I discovered it in my older brother’s record collection around 1971.

https://youtu.be/6fHO5cCfI04

I was never a fanatic about Led Zeppelin, but given that this album (II) is 50 today, my Keith FC bobble hat is duly doffed. (Physical Graffiti is their best album, though).

https://youtu.be/EAmIuTI4wRg

I bought the second volume of The Beatles at the BBC this week. Until John and Paul really hit their writing streak, they were a superlative covers band, brave enough to take on The Miracles.

https://youtu.be/9rokS8Ao4nQ

...and who can resist the Latinate groove of Señor Coconut?

https://youtu.be/DaTHoy-0HCU

Here comes the weekend, chums. Play hard.


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Nigeyb | 4546 comments Mod
Wonderful - thanks David


A quick five from my end of the street....

Chicory Tip - Cigarettes Women and Wine
More than just a one hit wonder

Hugo Strasser - Black Night
German cover of Deep Purple from one of the In Kraut comps

Tony Hatch Orchestra - Theme from “The Champions”
It's the theme - to the Champions. Straight after The Big Match on a Sunday

Barry Blue - Do You Wanna Dance?
All time favourite. Seriously.

Hello - Another School Day
Surely the most underrated of the glam bands. Their recent four disc box set is chock full of glam goodness

Like David suggests, may your weekend be all peaches and coconut cream


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David | 1065 comments Oooh, I say. The Tip followed up Son Of My Father (still bellowed from football terraces to this day, and even English cricket’s leading pace bowler has his tribute version) with Good Grief Christina, a less-stellar hit. The chart run-down on Radio 1 on Tuesday lunchtime’s Johnnie Walker show was essential listening, as close as my generation would ever get to our grandparents and parents crowding round the family wireless in 1940 to tune into Churchill’s stirring perorations on the Home Service.

I must search out a biog if the Tip to ascertain the membership. As someone once said (loosely remembered) of glam, it was bizarre seeing ex-brickies from Sutton Coldfield onstage at TOTP wrapped in tinfoil and plastered in Boots make-up.


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Nigeyb | 4546 comments Mod
I used to run home from school for the chart rundown and then run back again with news of the movers and shakers.


Drive In Saturday is still at number three in my world

B-side - Round & Round

Thanks David - always a pleasure to read your musings


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Mark Rubenstein | 1510 comments David wrote: "The Tip followed up Son Of My Father with Good Grief Christina, a less-stellar hit. ..."

No need for a round of fisticuffs, I assure you, but to my ears, Good Grief Christina was every bit as stellar as Son Of My Father and, on the right day and in the right mood, perhaps slightly more stellar. But maybe that’s just me?


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Nigeyb | 4546 comments Mod
I'd also put in a word for Son of My Father b-side Pride Comes Before a Fall - a wonderful slice of late 60s/early 70s bubblegum pop that often comes, unbidden, to my mind and which I sing whilst going about my business

It sounds like a completely different group though. Probably because it was. I'm guessing anyway....

Given Giorgio M had already recorded Son of My Father, I imagine the Tip singer just put his vocals over Giorgio's music.

I suppose I should check one of these days.

On a related topic the Giorgio Son Of My Father LP is a firm favourite round these parts.




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Nigeyb | 4546 comments Mod
One more thing. Giorgio's command of English is quite something eh.....


Son of my father
Moulded, I was folded, I was preform-packed
Son of my father
Commanded, I was branded in a plastic vac'
Surrounded and confounded by statistic facts



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Nigeyb | 4546 comments Mod
What's a plastic vac' though?


An abbreviation for vacuum I'd guess.

I might have gone for plastic mac myself but hey, who am I to question the genius that is GM?


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David | 1065 comments Plastic mac probably wouldn’t have been in Giorgio’s vocabulary, with the abbreviation of ‘Macintosh’ to ‘mac’ a very English thing, but I do prefer your line.

Pete had already used it in ‘Substitute’, and with the age/heel height/ethnicity confusion, our man even hinted at the sleaziness associated with rainwear that again was a very English/British thing.

This is one of the few places I know where a techno grandaddy, rudimentary rainwear, minor glam acts and 20th century nudge-nudge British euphemisms can feature naturally within a single conversation.

I like this a lot.


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Nigeyb | 4546 comments Mod
David wrote: "This is one of the few places I know where a techno grandaddy, rudimentary rainwear, minor glam acts and 20th century nudge-nudge British euphemisms can feature naturally within a single conversation."

Proudly niche however our analytics are not driving much ad venue GoodReads' way

Back to one of your well made points David, you're quite right that Giorgio would be unlikely to know the abbreviation of Macintosh

More generally I have a soft spot for English lyrics written by non-native English speakers. This couplet in The Model is a personal favourite...

She's a model and she's looking good
I'd like to take her home, that's understood


I suspect Giorgio was trawling through his English dictionary given the slightly mangled nature of some of the lyrics in SOMF

Statistic facts, for example, is not something a native English speaker would be likely to say.

This verse is further evidence....

Tried to let me in but I jumped out of my skin in time
I saw through the lies and read the alibi signs
So I left my home I'm really on my own at last
Left the trodden path and separated from the past


Alibi signs?
Trodden path?

Not phrases I've ever uttered but wonderful nonetheless

According to Wikipedia, Giorgio grew up in a mixed German, Italian and Ladin-speaking environment

Ladin, you may ask?...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ladin_l...

...it's mainly spoken in the Dolomite Mountains in Northern Italy in the provinces of South Tyrol, the Trentino, and the Belluno, by the Ladin people. It exhibits similarities to Swiss Romansh and Friulian.


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Mark Rubenstein | 1510 comments Nigeyb wrote: "On a related topic the Giorgio Son Of My Father LP is a firm favourite round these parts. ..."

A fine album, and no two ways about it. Bonus points for the very tasteful sleeve design.


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David | 1065 comments Hi Mark. My ‘less-stellar’ description of Good Grief Christina was a reference to its chart position, and the UK public’s relative resistance to its more strident arrangement rather than any amateur appraisal of both songs’ relative artistic charms.

I did Google Chicory Tip, hoping to find well-known session musicians, perhaps future members of Sassafras or Blue Mink in their line-up. Rather, the Tip looks to have been an established, and road-worn act whose members grasped enthusiastically the opportunity afforded them by the once-in-a-lifetime coincidence of the public’s appetite for Dr Moog’s other-wordly sounds, and Bacofoil raiment.


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Nigeyb | 4546 comments Mod
I looked up the Tip in Dave Thompson's majestic Children of the Revolution: The Glam Rock Story 1970-1975

He is pretty keen on their five releases of the Glam era. Aside from the biggie, Son of My Father, it was only Good Grief Christina (peak chart position number 17) and What's Your Name (peak chart position number 13) which troubled the UK chart.

The whole Tip story is here...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicory...

And yep, as David tells us, they were well established but going nowhwere until they heard Son Of My Father.

One little interesting snippet I learned was that a the Moog synthesizer on Son Of My Fahter was programmed and played by studio engineer and record producer......Chris Thomas. He gets everywhere....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_T...


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Nigeyb | 4546 comments Mod
Five for Friday…


Chic - Hangin’
Pigbag - Papa’s Got a Brand New Pigbag
Jazzateers - Sixteen Reasons
Aztec Camera - Pillar to Post
The Pop Group - Beyond Good and Evil

Have a most convivial weekend


message 1048: by David (new)

David | 1065 comments Hits the spot, Nigey.

From the teetering CD review pile:

I Wanna Stay With You - Gallagher and Lyle (Live 77)

Devil Are You Satisfied? - Sutherland Brothers & Quiver (Beat Of The Street, The Albums box set)

Brother - Martin Harley (Roll With The Punches)

Punch The Air - Dana Gillespie (Under My Bed)

Walk Back In - Billy Price (Dog Eat Dog)

Go “cruising the streets with de Niro”, friends, as Pete advises:
https://youtu.be/uPjxTpOBhmY


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Nigeyb | 4546 comments Mod
Thanks David - top notch selections as ever


Pete is playing in Worthing in December. Wondering whether to go see him. Last time I saw him was in Glasgow in the mid-90s supporting Big Audio Dynamite. I enjoyed his set then.


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David | 1065 comments Did you get Pete Sounds, his much-delayed crowd-funded album from 2017 (I think)? It is magical, and the title is a stroke of genius, the best use of an additional single vowel since the heady days of Countdown in 82 with Kathy Huytner ❤️ bossing the letters.

https://youtu.be/F2KhEsnxt-c


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