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John Mountford (killmandela) | 735 comments Vicki wrote: ""He crossed a line and it could never be uncrossed, not ever."

1. Would you like to speculate what's happened here? Or was it really just the various affairs that makes Ariel say this.

2. And is ..."


Infidelity, like any sin, is forgiven through the process of repentance: the acknowledgement of error, the asking for pardon, and the commitment not to repeat the error. For the line never to be uncrossed, either the nature, or the repetition, of the error must have been serious. I'm guessing it was the nature.

Money does mean power; no, it is not right in the context of marriage. Women are too trusting - they need to employ their own lawyers in the drafting of the nuptial agreement, especially if they are to prioritise child birth and rearing.

Very true. Mothers that allow their sons to get away with abusing/taking advantage of them, end up seeing their sons carry that forward into their marriages. Mothers are especially prone to this with only sons - they hang on to the mother/son relationship for too long until the damage is irreversible. Sometimes the father is also at fault, not providing a strong enough father figure to balance this out.


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John Mountford (killmandela) | 735 comments Vicki,
Your damn story kept me reading way past my bedtime last night. You maintain the suspense beautifully without any sign of a plot yet - shows the power of sex on the human mind.
This is fiction, right?


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John Mountford (killmandela) | 735 comments Antoinette Wiid @Ant1wp

@johnmountford Just bought it for R30 on Amazon! And Amazon told me that people who bought this book "also bought Kill Mandela".

Vicki, I just got you a sale - one of my twitter friends.


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John Mountford (killmandela) | 735 comments Hey Vicki,
You chickened out in the eventual 'getting it on' scene between Ariel and Nate. How could you do that to me! I patiently endure the anticipation of six chapters, only to have the scene fast-forwarded to the post-coital afterglow. Doesn't read like the Vicki I know.


message 5: by John (new)

John Mountford (killmandela) | 735 comments I am with you 100% in your intentions for your story, Vicki. I'm only one third of the way through so I cannot comment that confidently in that area.
But you did raise expectations for the scene with Nate. I did not expect erotica, but just the proper culmination of a string of very strong sexual signals you send out in the run-up. These signals are not so subtle, and, for me, do not match the coyness you show it writing the actual scene.
That's my opinion as a male reader - I guess we respond differently to sexual signals than women.


message 6: by John (new)

John Mountford (killmandela) | 735 comments Vicki wrote: "You do, and if I could write it from Nathan's perspective it would be a completely different book. The thing with Ariel is this - what she says in her mind is completely different to what she says ..."

Okay, I think I get her better now. I forgive you...almost.


message 7: by John (new)

John Mountford (killmandela) | 735 comments Vicki wrote: "Also remember women invest in love emotionally much easier than men do. You prove that by wanting to see more. Men are very visual women sometimes avoid visual because it makes us insecure. Not all..."

Whew! A mine field, Vicki. Hope I make it through to the end.


message 8: by John (new)

John Mountford (killmandela) | 735 comments Vicki wrote: "You'll be better for it John. Ariel is not a man hater just the love for her son proves that. No man bashing here."

Okay. Here goes...


message 9: by Adele (new)

Adele Mey (adlemey) | 485 comments Don't know where I'm going to have time to read this but i just bought it. See you when i see you


message 10: by John (new)

John Mountford (killmandela) | 735 comments Vicki wrote: "Adele wrote: "Don't know where I'm going to have time to read this but i just bought it. See you when i see you"

Adele wow, I would have gifted it to you, thanks a lot. Its a little lighter and an..."


Vicki, was that a backhanded compliment you just gave me? Anyway, I agree with you. After KILL MANDELA your book will be like the after-party: less glamorous, but a lot of naughty fun.


message 11: by Adele (new)

Adele Mey (adlemey) | 485 comments Is this anything like 50 shades? I read that. And was ok with it


message 12: by Adele (new)

Adele Mey (adlemey) | 485 comments Vicki wrote: "Adele wrote: "Is this anything like 50 shades? I read that. And was ok with it"
Noooo! I'm too squeamish for that, but it does have a dark undertone."


Now I'm really curious


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