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message 1: by Nicole, MORPHEUS ALWAYS (new)

Nicole (nikki_wang) | 182 comments Mod
Discuss your spoilers of the RUDISISJDNSWKWOWOICKXKALEKFJCJKSKR ending of Unhinged


message 2: by La La (last edited Jan 18, 2014 03:34PM) (new)

La La I want to discuss White's future unveilings and how it will affect Alyssa's feelings for Jeb. Do you think knowing she eventually has a child with Morpheus, even if it is long after Jeb is in the "happy skate park in the sky", will tear at her to the point where she will want to end things with Jeb because she feels like a traitor? I am hoping White's little orb trick ends up being the false product of another one of those Wonderland "IOU's". If the future "picture show" ends up being a ruse, I think Al will finally kick Moth Man to the curb.


message 3: by Ally (new)

Ally | 4 comments I hope that Al and Morpheus are together!! I do kind of agree with you that the vision will get to her even if she saves Jeb and Morpheus. And then her deal with Morpheus the 24 hours! I mean Jeb will go mad!


message 4: by Story (new)

Story (isekai_protagonists) | 974 comments I do see how it would be difficult to truly get serious with him if she knows she'll be with the other later.


message 5: by Story (new)

Story (isekai_protagonists) | 974 comments Thnx for the thread Niki btw. I wanted something like this.


message 6: by Ally (new)

Ally | 4 comments What do you think will happen to Morpheus and Jeb when they are in AnyElsewhere?


message 7: by Story (new)

Story (isekai_protagonists) | 974 comments I don't know. I suppose they will have to work together, most likely.


message 8: by La La (last edited Jan 21, 2014 02:08AM) (new)

La La Katie wrote: "I don't know. I suppose they will have to work together, most likely."

Yes, I agree, and maybe this will make them care enough about each other that one will concede to the other where Alyssa is concerned. Maybe this will make Morpheus give up his "24 hours" and let Al make up her own mind about whom she wants without brainwashing.


message 9: by La La (new)

La La I am on pins and needles waiting to find out about Alyssa's father's history in AnyElsewhere and Wonderland. And I really didn't see that one coming after reading Splintered.


message 10: by Ally (new)

Ally | 4 comments Ik now!! And her mom going to into wonderland?? I didn't think that she would have wanted to be queen. And then her ease with magic and the mushrooms in her room?? Who knew!


message 11: by Story (new)

Story (isekai_protagonists) | 974 comments Ally wrote: "Ik now!! And her mom going to into wonderland?? I didn't think that she would have wanted to be queen. And then her ease with magic and the mushrooms in her room?? Who knew!"

I know! And she seems a lot stronger now that we know she can defend herself with awesome Netherling magic.


message 12: by Story (new)

Story (isekai_protagonists) | 974 comments Linda "La La" wrote: "I am on pins and needles waiting to find out about Alyssa's father's history in AnyElsewhere and Wonderland. And I really didn't see that one coming after reading Splintered."

Me either. I expected him to be connected to Martin Gardner, who annotated The Annotated Alice.


message 13: by La La (last edited Jan 24, 2014 06:27PM) (new)

La La Didn't you all love that "story within a story", in the first part of the book, when Alyssa and Morph were children? I didn't want it to end. I need another book of stories just from that part of their lives together.


message 14: by ashes (new)

ashes ➷ (ashesarrows) | 1063 comments Alyssa tells us herself- she'll end up with both.
She wants to live in the country (with Jeb)
Where she can visit her muse at any time (Wonderland/Morpheus)
With two kids.
I don't have the book with me right now, but if I can, I'll update this with the exact quote. (She's talking to Jeb about what she wants to do with her life.)
I'm not sure if that's a real spoiler for Unhinged or not, but here's something related-
I vote she has a baby with Morpheus and it's conceived while she's in Wonderland with him. OwO
Then again, the way she phrased it... She vowed to give him 'a day and a night', not necessarily in Wonderland. What if she goes through the tulgey wood and then counts that as her day & night with him, even with Jeb chaperoning?
NO, A. G. HOWARD. YOU MUST STAY AWAY FROM THAT OPTION. PLEASE. FOR THE FANGIRLS.


message 15: by A.G. (last edited Jan 23, 2014 10:55AM) (new)

A.G. Howard (aghoward) | 1618 comments Dahanci wrote: "What if she goes through the tulgey wood and then counts that as her day & night with him, even with Jeb chaperoning?
NO, A. G. HOWARD. YOU MUST STAY AWAY FROM THAT OPTION. PLEASE. FOR THE FANGIRLS.


Haha! This thread is fun... And Dahanci, I vow on my life-magic not to go that route... We mustn't make things too easy for our girl. (But bear in mind I'm not a netherling so you really can't hold me to that...) HA!


message 16: by Story (new)

Story (isekai_protagonists) | 974 comments Dahanci wrote: "Alyssa tells us herself- she'll end up with both.
She wants to live in the country (with Jeb)
Where she can visit her muse at any time (Wonderland/Morpheus)
With two kids.
I don't have the book wit..."


It did occur to me though that while she vowed to give him a day and a night, she didn't say which one...


message 17: by La La (last edited Jan 23, 2014 08:32PM) (new)

La La Also, I was under the impression that the union between Alyssa and Morpheus was most likely in the distant future, so I am saying no to the child being a product from the promised 24 hours meeting. Plus, Alyssa saying she wanted to live in the country with Jeb has no bearing on the decision she could make if the guilt of thinking she is with Moth Man in the future gets to her.

Did White even say for sure the child was Morph's? I will have to go and grab the book. Maybe he is Jeb's and they are only there visiting good ol' Uncle Mothy. Maybe Morpheus gave him blue hair like you would give a child a temporary tattoo for fun and games. I have to go back and read the prophecy again.

And how about that scene in the gym pre-prom. A.G. should be writing paranormal romance, too!!


message 18: by Story (new)

Story (isekai_protagonists) | 974 comments That was amazing. A.G. is a phenomenal writer.


message 19: by ashes (new)

ashes ➷ (ashesarrows) | 1063 comments @La La
I wish he would give me temporary blue eyebrows. Just wait; my cosplay will be ruined by random brown eyes and eyebrows XC
Any tips for coloring thick eyebrows blue?
I would prefer to not dye them XD


message 20: by A.G. (new)

A.G. Howard (aghoward) | 1618 comments Dahanci wrote: "@La La
I wish he would give me temporary blue eyebrows. Just wait; my cosplay will be ruined by random brown eyes and eyebrows XC
Any tips for coloring thick eyebrows blue?
I would prefer to not ..."


You might be able to use blue eyeshadow. The powder kind, not the creamy. Or maybe even blue sidewalk chalk?


message 21: by Story (new)

Story (isekai_protagonists) | 974 comments Or hair chalk


message 22: by A.G. (new)

A.G. Howard (aghoward) | 1618 comments Katie wrote: "Or hair chalk"

Yes! Even better idea! Also, thanks for your sweet words about my writing, Katie! You're so good for my author's soul. <3


message 23: by Story (new)

Story (isekai_protagonists) | 974 comments Thank you, and you're welcome. You deserve it.


message 24: by La La (new)

La La Why does this fan group usually make me want to hug somebody?


message 25: by A.G. (new)

A.G. Howard (aghoward) | 1618 comments Haha, @La La! It's because everyone's so nice over here. :) It has the same effect on me.


message 26: by La La (last edited Jan 24, 2014 06:42PM) (new)

La La Dahanci wrote: "@La La
I wish he would give me temporary blue eyebrows. Just wait; my cosplay will be ruined by random brown eyes and eyebrows XC
Any tips for coloring thick eyebrows blue?
I would prefer to not ..."


I did costuming and stage make-up for a children's theater group for almost eight years and another option would be to make an eyebrow template and use the spray on hair color. You could also use hair stiffening gel, (like they use for mohawks) or egg whites, with blue glitter mixed in to paint on your eyebrows.

I hear they make paisley print contacts now!


message 27: by ashes (new)

ashes ➷ (ashesarrows) | 1063 comments O.O OH MY GOD THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL THE SUGGESTIONS

In other news, I was wondering if a glue stick, foundation, and blue blush or something would work- I've seen this in makeup tutorials, and I fail at having good makeup.


message 28: by Jayna (new)

Jayna (stablespur) | 16 comments I just finished and I want to cry :,(
I love the fact that there was "glimpses" of a happy future for the sexy moth and the skater!!! I think that's a splendid compromise but please please please be moth baby that would but horrible crushing twist if it wasn't.
but I still wish she go away with morph the day after they defeat red and she stay he is so swoon worthy and perfectly imperfect. I do however give Jeb credit he is stepping aside and letting her work things out with out interfering as much makes me like him a smidge more than I did; but she's a better netherling that's where she belongs with morph at her side. but that's my opinion. how long till the next book I am having withdraws already!!!!


message 29: by Sieun (new)

Sieun (shieun) | 9 comments I finished Unhinged today, and now I don't know how I managed to live before reading the book. WHAT IS REALITY?!! I mean, seriously I was SOOO in to Unhinged that the book world feels more real than my miserable mortal life :'(
I really need a time machine now so I can have Ensnared and meet the sexisest moth man in the world and of course, the gorgeous kick-ass Queen :'D


message 30: by La La (new)

La La Dahanci wrote: "O.O OH MY GOD THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL THE SUGGESTIONS

In other news, I was wondering if a glue stick, foundation, and blue blush or something would work- I've seen this in makeup tutorials, and ..."


Try each one from easiest to most difficult, and when you hit one that works, stop and you are good to go. Just don't ever shave your eyebrows because I have seen them grow in all screwy.


message 31: by A.G. (new)

A.G. Howard (aghoward) | 1618 comments @Jayna & @Shieun, so happy you liked it! There's rumor of the cover reveal for book 3 soon-ish. ;) I'll keep everyone posted here!

*waves to @Dahanci & @La La* Can't wait to see the cosplay! :)


message 32: by La La (new)

La La *waves back* I thought I was hearing some whisperings about the cover on Twitter, and I was right, ha ha!! If it isn't Jebalicious I will have to glue a picture of "Wet Jeb" on the cover!!


message 33: by Sieun (new)

Sieun (shieun) | 9 comments The COVER, yes please!! I won't be able to sleep at night when the cover gets revealed x'D I'm Team Morph all the way but I actually want to see Jeb on the cover. Got fond of him at the end of Unhinged :) Or Morpheus and Alyssa's cute little boy might be awesome! Anyway, so excited ;D


message 34: by ashes (new)

ashes ➷ (ashesarrows) | 1063 comments Linda "La La" wrote: "Dahanci wrote: "O.O OH MY GOD THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL THE SUGGESTIONS

In other news, I was wondering if a glue stick, foundation, and blue blush or something would work- I've seen this in makeup..."


Shaving eyebrows is a complete NOPE, don't worry. I want something entirely non-permanent owo

(Though it would be hilarious to go to school with blue eyebrows XD)


message 35: by Amanda (new)

Amanda Rousell  | 6 comments I wonder how in hell she's going to convince her dad to go to AnyElsewhere so she can get Morpheus and Jeb and kill Red. also she has to save her mother from sister 2. how in hell is she gonna do all that? then after that she has to spend 24hrs with Morpheus in wonderland and we don't get to know any of this till January 2015.


message 36: by A.G. (new)

A.G. Howard (aghoward) | 1618 comments A.j. wrote: "I wonder how in hell she's going to convince her dad to go to AnyElsewhere so she can get Morpheus and Jeb and kill Red. also she has to save her mother from sister 2. how in hell is she gonna do ..."

I KNOW. I don't know how the heck all that stuff is supposed to happen. I'm just glad I don't have to figure it out. Wait... ~~(⊙_◎)~~

Hehe. Nice to meet you A.J.! And welcome to the boards! <3 I'm doing my best to get the book cinched up and sent off to my publisher so we can start the next step: edits. BLICK. 2015 will be here before I can blink. LOL


message 37: by Story (new)

Story (isekai_protagonists) | 974 comments A.j. wrote: "I wonder how in hell she's going to convince her dad to go to AnyElsewhere so she can get Morpheus and Jeb and kill Red. also she has to save her mother from sister 2. how in hell is she gonna do ..."

Wait a min, January 2015?! THAT'S the release date? It's gonna be forever!


message 38: by A.G. (new)

A.G. Howard (aghoward) | 1618 comments Katie wrote: "Wait a min, January 2015?! THAT'S the release date? It's gonna be forever! "

*coughs* Yep, 2015. Sorry! But I promise to have giveaways and teasers to make the wait more bearable. :)


message 39: by La La (new)

La La A.G. wrote: "Katie wrote: "Wait a min, January 2015?! THAT'S the release date? It's gonna be forever! "

*coughs* Yep, 2015. Sorry! But I promise to have giveaways and teasers to make the wait more bearable. :)"


Teasers like the Jeb cover reveal, right?!! >_<


message 40: by A.G. (new)

A.G. Howard (aghoward) | 1618 comments Linda "La La" wrote: "A.G. wrote: "Katie wrote: "Wait a min, January 2015?! THAT'S the release date? It's gonna be forever! "

*coughs* Yep, 2015. Sorry! But I promise to have giveaways and teasers to make the wait more..."


Hehehe...Not saying for sure, but it's looking very hopeful! <3


message 41: by Hannah (new)

Hannah | 125 comments YUSSS! ^


message 42: by ashes (new)

ashes ➷ (ashesarrows) | 1063 comments Shayla wrote: "Besides about Morhpheus and Alyssa, I was focusing on the child. The child is so cute. I think it would be sad if he didn't come to be."

It would be downright literature cheating. It's a prophecy, it's going to happen. I do not care if I have to show up in Wonderland myself and strip Morpheus myself, it's happening.

Actually, I'd have no problem stripping Morpheus anyway, but that's beside the point.


message 43: by Natalia (last edited Jul 11, 2014 11:40PM) (new)

Natalia (natalia_g) | 809 comments Dahanci wrote: "It would be downright literature cheating. It's a prophecy, it's going to happen. I do not care if I have to show up in Wonderland myself and strip Morpheus myself, it's happening. "

Agree. In another series I read there was a prophesy mentioned and it did come true eventually. Because what's the point if it won't? It would be cruel.

I have to say, I was spoiled about the fact of Ivory's prophesy from the reviews, but I didn't know what it was about, just that it was supposed to be good ))) And when I did actually read it, I cried happy tears. I... I just have no words. It was so beautiful. It was perfection. It was everything. It gave me hope. And Alyssa was happy in that vision. It is where she belongs.

It just irks me it took her to see that prophesy to finally start realizing how precious Morpheus is. Shouldn't have taken her so long to figure it out :)


message 44: by La La (new)

La La Natalia wrote: "Dahanci wrote: "It would be downright literature cheating. It's a prophecy, it's going to happen. I do not care if I have to show up in Wonderland myself and strip Morpheus myself, it's happening. ..."

However, I don't think the book ever said that the child was Alyssa's and Morpheus', together. It could be just Alyssa's, or only Morph's, or someone elses. I still have to go back and read that part again.


message 45: by Natalia (new)

Natalia (natalia_g) | 809 comments Linda "La La" wrote: "However, I don't think the book ever said that the child was Alyssa's and Morpheus', together."

«Ivory’s smile is blinding. “A most unique creature. The first child to be born to two netherlings who’ve shared a childhood.»

And just in case Jeb end up being a netherling too, the child has blue hair.


message 46: by La La (last edited Jul 12, 2014 02:46PM) (new)

La La Are Alyssa and Morph the only netherlings to have ever shared a chilhood? I still think there is a twist in there somewhere. Plus, the "prophecy" could be one of those infamous Wonderland IOUs and not be entirely real, or truthful. The truth seems to get stretched a lot in Wonderland.


message 47: by Natalia (last edited Jul 12, 2014 02:56PM) (new)

Natalia (natalia_g) | 809 comments Come on, a child with Alyssa's eyes and blue hair, born to two netherlings who shared a childhood! How many coincidences could there be? Alyssa is queen and Morpheus is king.

I'm sure there are plenty of twists in the book. It just doesn't have to be the prophesy.

Anyway, my logic and common sense and hope say it must be true, but my lack of trust in final books in a series, already broken 3 times this year says "trust no one". Alyssa still can mess everything up (:


message 48: by La La (new)

La La Natalia wrote: "Come on, a child with Alyssa's eyes and blue hair, born to two netherlings who shared a childhood! How many coincidences could there be? Alyssa is queen and Morpheus is king.

I'm sure there are pl..."


That all depends on what the reader considers "messed up", though. ;)


message 49: by ashes (new)

ashes ➷ (ashesarrows) | 1063 comments It took me a couple R18 comics to stop questioning messed-up things.

Now, I'm entirely sane, and give me a moment to pour the contents of this teacup in my ear.


message 50: by Natalia (last edited Aug 07, 2014 04:07AM) (new)

Natalia (natalia_g) | 809 comments Since this is a thread where we don't have to hide spoilers, I wanted to discuss Alyssa's mosaics. I'm going to repost what A.G. said in another thread:

Grenadine is only a queen because Alyssa appointed her as her temporary stand-in. Officially, since G doesn't have the Red bloodline/lineage, she can't access or use the crown magic which makes her more like a steward until Alyssa resumes her place on the throne (or, per the rules Rabid stated in Unhinged, loses it to another blood relative in a battle of magic and wit... whichever were to happen first.

We know that there are 3 Red queens fighting for the ruby crown in one of Alyssa's mosaics, and Alyssa assumed they are her, Red and Grenadine. But since Grenadine is from another lineage and won't be able to access the crown magic anyway, why would she even fight? Now, we don't know much about her, but to me she seemed like someone who wouldn't even want to fight. If she doesn't have a chance to tap into the crown magic, why would she risk her life?

What do you guys think, is there a chance that there is another heir to the ruby crown? Someone we don't know about yet? Seems unlikely, but I was just wondering...

And by the way, how was Grenadine able to rule all those years, if she can't access the crown magic? Before Alyssa came to Wonderland in Splintered, I mean.

And another thing I'm curious about: does a King possess any sort of crown magic? Or is the king's crown just a piece of jewelry?


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