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Jan 14, 2014 09:58PM
On Goodreads, for an illustrated book, it's customary for the illustrator(s) to be given an author credit. They appear after the author who wrote the book.
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I don't know how Google Alerts is checking the Goodreads pages, but perhaps it's looking at the author profiles for your illustrators and seeing The Gray Season listed under their books:https://www.goodreads.com/author/show...
Dianna wrote: "Yes, I think you're right! That's exactly why I would like them removed from my Goodreads listing. How can that be done? Thanks for your help."Goodreads cannot be responsible for Google Alerts.
Lobstergirl wrote: "On Goodreads, for an illustrated book, it's customary for the illustrator(s) to be given an author credit. They appear after the author who wrote the book."
I have removed Patty Thurlby (GR doesn't add cover artist anyway)but Thomas F. Stone is the illustrator inside. His name should stay.
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Because that is the only book on which he is listed as an author (albeit a secondary author). Unless he writes or illustrates another book which is added to Goodreads, that probably won't change. Although again, Goodreads cannot take any responsibility for what Google does.
If he illustrated the book, any book catalog will list him as the illustrator of the book. It says right there on the book page "Thomas F. Stone (Illustrations)". There's nothing else we can do to make this clearer.
Dianna wrote: "Thank you. I appreciate your attention to my dilemma."Is it possible that you contact Google support? It seem like they can do with a bit of improvement, since this "alert" is not accurate.
Kerry wrote: "What is the concern here, exactly?"Read message 1, 3, 9, 11. Or the whole thread.
I guess I mean, what is the practical concern? Presumably the author set up a Google Alert for either her name, or the title of her book. What is the hypothetical situation about which that the author is concerned? I think that anyone who set up a Google Alert for either of those things (or for the illustrator's name) will be familiar enough with one of those three things that they will think "huh" and click on the link, and then all will be clear. If they DON'T know who those people are, they wouldn't have set up an alert in the first place, right? Or am I missing something?
Kerry wrote: " Or am I missing something? "Probably not. I don't know what the alert was set up to search for. I've tried a few variations on both of the authors names and the book title and I haven't managed to get a result that even hinted that the illustrator was the main or only author of the book. Always Dianna or else nothing, never Thomas.
Any author would have to be concerned if it looked like their book was being attributed to someone else but I wonder what the illustrator will say when he sees that the 'other' author wanted him completely off the book profile.
EDIT: Or Patty Thurlby, the other illustrator (cover).
Banjomike wrote: "Any author would have to be concerned if it looked like their book was being attributed to someone else but I wonder what the illustrator will say when he sees that the 'other' author wanted him completely off the book profile."Very true.
I just...can't see a typical shopper setting up a google alert vs...checking out Amazon or B&N.
MrsJoseph (taking back my data & giving GR the middle finger) wrote: "Very true.I just...can't see a typical shopper setting up a google alert vs...checking out Amazon or B&N. "
It was ages since I had previously tried a Google alert and I was surprised how little it found. It still finds very little and I won't be bothering with it.
Banjomike wrote: "It was ages since I had previously tried a Google alert and I was surprised how little it found. It still finds very little and I won't be bothering with it. "Agreed. I find that Fictfact is the best place to get alerts for new series books and the rest go on a wish/shopping list. As you said, Google Alerts does little.
For what it's worth, I'm a "regular" goodreads member (not an author or a librarian) and the book shows Dianna as the primary author on goodreads. (The illustrator is listed in the role of "illustrations" after the primary author.)I have no way of telling what that particular google alert was reporting to the author or if somehow she's seeing something different on her author dashboard.
Personally, I think "illustrations" is an odd role to assign anyone as it's more usual on goodreads and most sites to list the role as "Illustrator" (or less often as "illustrated by"). I used to be a goodreads librarian and calling the role of illustrator "illustrations" sounds odd, as odd as if an anthology's editor role became an "edits" role.
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It wouldn't be horrible, but it would be contrary to Goodreads policy. Cover artists are not listed as authors (secondary or otherwise) on Goodreads.
Can cover artists still be discreetly credited at bottom of the book description text?
D.A. wrote: "Can cover artists still be discreetly credited at bottom of the book description text?"I've added Patty Thurlby to the blurb on both editions. I am a bit biased toward cover illustrators.
