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Need likes on my brand new FB page!
Thanks Judy for the "Like". I know you are new to Facebook and you created a personal page, so you will only have "friends" not "likes". But, you can go to "Create A Page" and create an "Author Page" to get "Likes"
Aha . . . thanks for the info. I'll have to figure out that part then.
Dušan wrote: "Thanks!!!! very much.I dont know liked your facebook page Mandy but I can follow you on twitter!!! :) It is OK? - @MandyNovelist14
and Aimee, too!!! It is OK?? - @AimeeDearmon"
Absolutely, Dusan!
Oh, and anyone new, I am liking on FB and following on Twitter! I support Indie Authors!!!
It's not difficult, Judy, one of the few things that aren't. Let me know when it's up!
I've liked your FB pages, Judy and DR! Please like mine if you haven't already. Thanks! I've been putting quotes on mine about reading and writing. Check it out! https://www.facebook.com/dthrush81
Nick wrote: "And another pathetic thread..."I see nothing wrong with supporting each other. As many of us as there seems to be, there are still many, many more readers. Unlike our delusional superiors, (Nick who?) we need all the help we can get.
Apparently, Dick, er, I mean, Nick, you must be in some pretty lofty company. If we're so pathetic, perhaps you might go hobnob with your more deserving peers (Dan Brown? John Grisham? Are they on Goodreads?) and let our pathetic little group go on about our business without your haughty disdain.
By the way, there's a comma after that "And" Rick, I mean, Nick.
Hey Nick if you've got better ideas on promotion (and the proof to back them up), I'm all ears. I keep hearing how great Facebook is for writers, so I figure giving it a shot.
Judy, How many books have you bought from authors spamming on facebook? Bought not given away.
Aimee,
Tell me how many books of the SP writers you have liked, that you are going to support by buying their books. That is the kind of support writers need...
Shakes head...
That's all hypothetical questions, so my answers would be meaningless, particularly since (as I said either in this thread or the other one) I don't particularly like Facebook so I don't use it.I've heard actual numbers (sales) from other writers using it. That is what led me to trying it out.
Your page looks good, I guess all authors must have their own FB pages. I do also have one, if it looks interesting give a like, I post my quotes and notes from my books. I do have around 300 fans so far... https://www.facebook.com/moonzajer1
Aimee wrote: "Nick wrote: "And another pathetic thread..."I see nothing wrong with supporting each other. As many of us as there seems to be, there are still many, many more readers. Unlike our delusional supe..."
Very classy Aimee...
As to who Dick, I mean Nick is, I am a reader and potential customer who can invest in your future by buying your book/books and if I find them enjoyable, brag to the reading world how good the book was...
Never underestimate the power of a customer.
You know what, Nick? I don't appreciate anyone who, for no other reason than to feel superior, calls people pathetic. Reader or no reader, customer or no customer, that's just mean. If I don't have anything decent or at least constructive, to contribute, I don't. Is it your place as a reader/customer to horn in on other's conversations to call them pathetic?
I'd rather you NOT invest in my future, thank you very much, Rick.
Judy, nearly all authors have a FB page. Most all businesses have a FB page. It's called promotion and how is anyone supposed to know who you are if you don't promote yourself? I'll take the advice of others who have been there before me, many of whom are successful, and that is: make use of the social networks.
By the way, Judy. I agree with M.F. Your page looks good.
Hello! Please like my Facebook page. Here is the link https://www.facebook.com/pages/Victor.... Will like your page too.
Okey, new likes for new authors!! :) Have a nice day!!https://www.facebook.com/dupyebooks
Thanks!! :)
Mandy, Aaro, Aimee I follow you on Twitter!! :)Yeah :)
Nick, it's called networking. It's a huge marketing tool in any industry, and is essential to any book marketing plan. These days, an author who is not using social media is losing out big time. I don't know how you can compare it to spam. I subscribe on FB to an Historical Romance reader group and from an author's perspective, all you see is authors promoting their books, so to you it might look like spam. But every one of those sites has as many readers as authors on it. And every person has potential to pass it on to every one of their friends. And every one of those friends is a potential customer, or knows one.
My author "likes" who I'd never buy their books because they aren't to my taste have still brought me interest from their friends who may prefer my books. In addition, authors I've "liked" have posted valuable information to their own author pages, often not necessarily related to their book. Examples are educational material for writers or promotion of their author friends' books. If an author whom I have "liked" puts out something I think my friends might like, I share it. Readers who "like" my author page may read several genres. They look with curiosity at who I've "liked" as an author and maybe find something they would never have found through another route.
I've just found twitter. One of my biggest re-tweeters is a woman who at first annoyed me because she puts out 30 or so posts a day with her husband's horror books and draws she's entered, but she reads my genre (Jane Austen inspired Regency romance), and has over 300 followers, so I follow her. That is a good contact.
It's a huge marketing tool. Get into the 21st century.
Nick, I'll also mention that while a writer's blog or Twitter may start out with just some fellow indie-writer followers, if you do more than just PROMOTE PROMOTE, you eventually gain other followers. I gained a ton (100+) new Twitter followers with the cover reveal of my upcoming novel. These are not writers--they're readers, following the blogs on popular YA books. On my blog I post on everything from books I've read to movies to parenting and teenagers. It's because of the new book that I finally decided to open up a Facebook page, particularly since it targets that popular YA readership who uses social networking.So yes, totally agree, Suzan. It's about networking, and it grows from there.
D. wrote: "I've liked your FB pages, Judy and DR! Please like mine if you haven't already. Thanks! I've been putting quotes on mine about reading and writing. Check it out! https://www.facebook.com/dthrush81"I have liked yours D!Thanks for liking mine!
I know all about networking...Been doing this a long time...
Suzan wrote: "Nick, it's called networking. It's a huge marketing tool in any industry, and is essential to any book marketing plan. These days, an author who is not using social media is losing out big time. ..." Well written Susan, people spend lot of time getting word out and also a lot of time to put together the marketing materials, it is a great feeling to be liked by the community you are a part of. Hard work in promoting ensures it culminates to sales.
Emma wrote: "DR wrote: "Hi,I just noticed this thread and great idea! Thank you in advance, I am promoting my fb page and would like to invite you all to like my Fb page please! here is the link
https://www.f..."
Thanks Emma, I have liked yours!
Let me tell a little story.I have a friend. She has a blog. She gets apx 20,000 hits a month. Of those hits she has about 2,000 hard core followers. Of those followers she can account for maybe 200 sales when a new book comes out. Great, right?
On Facebook, she has almost 30,000 followers and she has no way of accounting for any spikes in her sales as she does not really interact there. She says FB takes up too much of her time and its all she can do to keep her blog going and write full time. She can't imagine what people who work full time do, or those with a large family to take care of...
I might also note that Publishers Weekly has done surveys that show that most of the best selling SP authors did very little marketing of their top selling books. Most did nothing more than tweets.
Now, I have no doubt that networking can help to sell a few extra books to readers who otherwise would not have known about a new writer. But the best advertisement is not a blog or FB post. The best form of advertisement is still word of mouth.
I'm always disappointed when I see an author FB that is out of date. It looks like he/she doesn't care, is insufferably lazy, or a diva, none of whom I want to read. I'm not saying your friend is that, as she sounds anything like it. But she can start by having her blog posts automatically picked up by her Facebook pages as well as hitting "share" when her regular page or another FB page has something interesting. Pretty much effortless and a much better public persona. In addition, it is just as effortless to track your FB hits as it is your blog and correlate them to sales. One extra graph to look at.
What I'd like to know is how your friend built up a following of 2,000 on her blog. My guess is she's at the very least an excellent and regular blogger, which definitely is a lot of work, and she probably also has a few good books out there to boot.
I just read a study on SP that said the best selling authors are the ones who have 60+ books on the market. Duh. Quantity of available product will equal more sales every time, unless your work is pure shit. Few of the best selling SP books are first books. Seasoned authors may be able to afford to ignore the latest marketing tool, I can't. And quite frankly, the top selling SP author in my genre is heavily into FB promotion.
But this is PART of a marketing strategy. I agree your method of personal contact is important too, it's just harder for people with no contacts.
One more thing: studies have shown that if you pay extra for those FB promotions to get little ads put out with your book, you get no more hits than you would have on your regular page.
Nick wrote: "Let me tell a little story.
I have a friend. She has a blog. She gets apx 20,000 hits a month. Of those hits she has about 2,000 hard core followers. Of those followers she can account for may..."
Nick, it's called networking. It's a huge marketing tool in any industry, and is essential to any book marketing plan. These days, an author who is not using social media is losing out big time.
I don't know how you can compare it to spam. I subscribe on FB to an Historical Romance reader group and from an author's perspective, all you see is authors promoting their books, so to you it might look like spam. But every one of those sites has as many readers as authors on it. And every person has potential to pass it on to every one of their friends. And every one of those friends is a potential customer, or knows one.
My author "likes" who I'd never buy their books because they aren't to my taste have still brought me interest from their friends who may prefer my books. In addition, authors I've "liked" have posted valuable information to their own author pages, often not necessarily related to their book. Examples are educational material for writers or promotion of their author friends' books. If an author whom I have "liked" puts out something I think my friends might like, I share it. Readers who "like" my author page may read several genres. They look with curiosity at who I've "liked" as an author and maybe find something they would never have found through another route.
I've just found twitter. One of my biggest re-tweeters is a woman who at first annoyed me because she puts out 30 or so posts a day with her husband's horror books and draws she's entered, but she reads my genre (Jane Austen inspired Regency romance), and has over 300 followers, so I follow her. That is a good contact.
It's a huge marketing tool. Get into the 21st century.
Yikes! Just getting caught up. Here's the link to my FB page: https://www.facebook.com/AuthorCSWilsonAnd twitter: @CSWilson_Author
I'll be clicking follow on everyone's links momentarily.
Hi all! I'll delighted to 'like' your FB and Twitter pages. Here is me :)
www.fb.com/veronicabrannonauthor
www.twitter.com/BrannonVeronica
Thank you all!
Suzan wrote: "I'm always disappointed when I see an author FB that is out of date. It looks like he/she doesn't care, is insufferably lazy, or a diva, none of whom I want to read. I'm not saying your friend is t..."Good post! :)
I must say: The debate about TO FACEBOOK AND TO ASK FOR LIKES OR TO FACEBOOK AND NOT TO ASK FOR LIKES is a personal decision of the Author and really should not be a debate. Both sides have good points and they should respect the others point whether they agree or not. Just saying.
Hi, Veronica you got like and I follow you on Twitter, too!! :) Have a nice day!! :)
https://www.facebook.com/dupyebooks
Thanks
Have liked all the above (I think), and seen some great FB pages in the process - and at least two books that I am likely to read. Good luck to us all.Please do drop by and like my page as well: https://www.facebook.com/mikerobbinsNYC
...mainly blogging at the moment, but two more books to come this year.
Hi Mike, just liked your page. Am going through the list of everyone else's pages here and liking. If members would be so kind as to like my wife's page, I would very much appreciate it. Thanks:https://www.facebook.com/alexisylumba...
Joseph wrote: "Hi Mike, just liked your page. Am going through the list of everyone else's pages here and liking. If members would be so kind as to like my wife's page, I would very much appreciate it. Thanks:..."
Done with pleasure, Joseph.
Have 'liked' all the Facebook pages listed. Hope you can get round to liking mine - going for 100!https://www.facebook.com/pages/Jan-Hu...
I've been posting quotes on reading and writing on my FB. Check it out and "like" if you like! https://www.facebook.com/dthrush81
Jan - thanks for like !! :) You got, too!! :)Have a nice day :)!!
Thanks Dusan. I'm now up to 95. Only need another five.
I attended a webinar for Facebook marketing. These were the key things that they said before the big sales pitch. The formula for advertising on your Facebook fan page is as follows: 1. Post 10 (funny/humorous items), 4 (informational post) and 1 (sales post) in that order. 2. Average post should be about 4 a day. 3. Use Facebook’s expert advertising tool to define your target audience. This investment could cost as low as $25. 4. Use the tool to market to at least 100,000 people for 5 days.
Thanks for the tips, Cynthia! I also heard that pictures draw more attention than words. ~
Hi I am new to this thread (new to Goodreads too actually).
Thanks for those fascinating tips on Facebook marketing Cynthia. I went to a workshop and didn't get anything as useful as this. Has anyone else tried Facebook advertising?
I am looking for my 100 Likes milestones too and only have two to go. I will go back and like the Facebook pages mentioned here over the next few days but by coincidence I am running a draw for a 50 euro Amazon voucher for people who like my Facebook page or share my competition post. Winner to be announced on Wednesday the 29th if anyone is interested.
https://www.facebook.com/johannabucha...
Thanks for those fascinating tips on Facebook marketing Cynthia. I went to a workshop and didn't get anything as useful as this. Has anyone else tried Facebook advertising?
I am looking for my 100 Likes milestones too and only have two to go. I will go back and like the Facebook pages mentioned here over the next few days but by coincidence I am running a draw for a 50 euro Amazon voucher for people who like my Facebook page or share my competition post. Winner to be announced on Wednesday the 29th if anyone is interested.
https://www.facebook.com/johannabucha...
Thanks! I have no clue how to use Facebook.
ETA: lol helps if I include a link, doesn't it!
https://www.facebook.com/judy.goodwin...