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message 1001: by Wreade1872 (new)

Wreade1872 | 943 comments Lena wrote: "There have been some hookers on here and weird scams."
WHAT?, thats an amazing statement, i must know more :) . It sounds like the kind of thing adolescent males tell each other :) . In fact, i feel a one act play coming on:
MALE1: I decided to join Goodreads.
MALE2: F*cking moron.
MALE3: NERD!
MALE4: gay.
MALE5: I heard there's a lot of hookers on Goodreads.
ALL MALES: Really? (said with a mixture of scepticism and optimism)
:D.


message 1002: by Lena (new)

Lena | 346 comments July 25 this appeared as a comment on a quote from Marilyn Monroe in my favorite quotes section of my profile:
"hello
My name is jessica i saw your profile today at(goodreads.com)and became interested in you i will also like to know you the more and i want you to send a mail to my email address so i can give you my picture for you to know whom l am.Here is my email address( jessica.ndaye@yahoo.com ).I believe we can move from here.I am waiting for your mail to my email address above.jessica.(Remember the distance or colour does not matter but love matters alot in life)
Please reply me with my email address
here

jessica.ndaye@yahoo.com"

I posted it in another group chat for options and an Australian friend found it was a scam.


message 1003: by Loretta (new)

Loretta | 2200 comments Wreade1872 wrote: "Lena wrote: "There have been some hookers on here and weird scams."
WHAT?, thats an amazing statement, i must know more :) . It sounds like the kind of thing adolescent males tell each other :) . I..."


:)


message 1004: by Brina (new)

Brina Lena I got the same email a few weeks ago and reported it as spam. It seems with all the changes on goodreads that more people are joining the site to socialize not necessarily about books and with that comes comments like the one Emerson received and general spammers, making all the more important for us to take that survey and tell Goodreads that we don't like its changes.


message 1005: by Melanti (new)

Melanti | 1894 comments Wait.. You mean that overseas phone number I called and the money I paid was all in vain? I thought I was reaching the voodoo woman! She promised to cast a love spell for me!

(Yes, I've seen love spells for sale here on Goodreads before...)

In all seriousness, the spammers and scammers are a separate issue from the home page. They've been around for nearly as long as the internet has been.

Just flag and report them when you see them or their posts and Goodreads staff is decent about getting it taken care of.


message 1006: by Brina (new)

Brina I did report it but it seems that there has been an increase in people coming on to socialize and not sure if they're actually reading. One such person kept sending me messages confusing me with a- l kid you not- a girl who stole her boyfriend. I gave her a warning but she kept sending such messages and l had her blocked. Yeah I know these homepage is different but the skeptic (conspiracy theorist???) in me wonders if gr is taking into account the socializers vs the readers and making the page more like Facebook.


message 1007: by Melanti (new)

Melanti | 1894 comments I haven't seen a ton of that sort of thing myself, but I don't really interact with anyone outside of groups and the very occasional like or comment on a friend's review...

Which is why I value the group discussion pages so much.


But, yeah, really the only way this update makes sense is if the majority of Goodreads users don't use groups. Which is quite possible, I suppose.

I've talked to several people over the last couple of months who only follow a couple of the less active groups and do it all via email notifications and never visit the home page! They weren't bothered by the homepage update at all.


message 1008: by Lena (new)

Lena | 346 comments Brina that's a scary thought. That they've looked at the people who have 1000 friends and 10 books and decided to cater to that. Heck I remember laughing on group chat about making a meme about it. "You're doing it wrong."


message 1009: by Sue (new)

Sue K H (sky_bluez) | 3694 comments How sad. I hope Goodreads doesn't become a typical social media site. I hate social media and love that Goodreads is different


message 1010: by Brina (new)

Brina I left Facebook almost 4 years ago and never used the other sites. I doubt goodreads will turn into another social site entirely because even the people here to socialize have to read and at least make it look like they read something. I might be a skeptic but as long as there are groups like this one, goodreads isn't going to go by the wayside.


message 1011: by Emerson (new)

Emerson | 282 comments Wreade1872 wrote: "Emerson wrote: "Yesterday I put up my Hero-actress as profile picture, today I just cut off her breasts, I was getting a 150% increase of attention... Not what I expected on a books forum..."

yeah..."


Haha! Wreade!
I'm happy now, I just needed to write it because it angered me.

I'm on Facebook and twitter so I can see my sister's pictures and compliment my favorite actors but I never found anything else on these sites, and never wanted to share my thoughts on these, I don't even feel comfortable compared to the usage people make of these sites. On GR I'm only here on this group and I'm happy with every little interactions I get!


message 1012: by Katy, Quarterly Long Reads (new)

Katy (kathy_h) | 9553 comments Mod
Emerson -- we hope your interactions in this group are positive.


message 1013: by Emerson (new)

Emerson | 282 comments Yes they are, thank you!


message 1014: by Tytti (last edited Aug 04, 2016 11:38AM) (new)

Tytti | 1010 comments There seems to be some baseball fans in this group. Are any of you aware that baseball is also popular in Finland but that we have our own version of it? Here is the fifth and final game of the men's final series from 2011: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14L5f... (If the stadium looks small, please remember that it's in a town with a population of about 10,500. It's still big compared to their opponent, there are only about 3000 people in Vimpeli...)

Last year a scout for the New York Yankees visited the All Star weekend and was interviewed: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8eX31...


message 1015: by Brina (new)

Brina Thanks for sharing :). I guess I wear my heart on my sleeve if you have noticed how baseball effects how much and what I read.


message 1016: by Tytti (new)

Tytti | 1010 comments Well as someone who plans on sitting in front of the TV the next 2.5 weeks, I kind of understand. Though I have to say that I have tried watching baseball but it's just too slow, nothing really happens, and I am a person who can watch almost any sport. I am just more used to our own, it's just so much faster.


message 1017: by MKay (new)

MKay | 277 comments Tytti wrote: "Well as someone who plans on sitting in front of the TV the next 2.5 weeks, I kind of understand. Though I have to say that I have tried watching baseball but it's just too slow, nothing really hap..."

Also looking forward to the next couple of weeks on TV. :)


message 1018: by Tytti (new)

Tytti | 1010 comments Oh, and after two minutes in that Finnish baseball video you'll see the "pesäpallo" version of the coin toss. For some reason it's called "cooking porridge" but it's such an old term (and word) that no one knows its actual origin.


message 1019: by Brina (new)

Brina Now that my glasses are fixed I can see the video. There's usually no coin toss in baseball this sounds fascinating.


message 1020: by Tytti (new)

Tytti | 1010 comments Well I was thinking more the one in Superbowl but anyway, the one who wins gets to decide if they start in the outfield or infield. I assume they have a preference.

This is probably from the funniest stadium... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuXBr...


message 1021: by Darren (new)

Darren (dazburns) | 2169 comments any baseball fans need to get on board with the August Buddy Read of Underworld! ;o)


message 1022: by Brina (new)

Brina Darren I had no idea Underworld was about baseball or I would have joined in. Now my August schedule is full along with September. I am curious now and will read later on.


message 1023: by Darren (new)

Darren (dazburns) | 2169 comments the first chapter (60 pages) is set during the final game of the Giants-Dodgers pennant race in 1951 and is among the best writing I've ever encountered.


message 1024: by Brina (new)

Brina Darren with my reading commitments unless anything changes I am tabling this for next summer. That's right. This year I started Gone With the Wind the day school let out- it was a present to myself. Next year Underworld will be my present. I read much more in the summer when I'm not on my kids school schedule. Next week is Lonesome Dove and I intend to read 2 more Pulitzers before school starts. Then I'm the kitchen lady and I'm swamped for time.


message 1025: by Loretta (new)

Loretta | 2200 comments Darren wrote: "any baseball fans need to get on board with the August Buddy Read of Underworld! ;o)"

Okay Darren, you've tweaked my interest! Since I'm not going to read any of the group reads for August, I'll look for the book next week at my library run! :)


message 1026: by Darren (new)

Darren (dazburns) | 2169 comments it should be easy to spot - in a pinch you could use it to crouch behind if being charged by an elephant! ;o)


message 1027: by Loretta (new)

Loretta | 2200 comments Darren wrote: "it should be easy to spot - in a pinch you could use it to crouch behind if being charged by an elephant! ;o)"

Wonderful! Thank you soooooo much!!!! :)


message 1028: by Linda (new)

Linda (lindadol74) | 47 comments Totally off subject, but I use mostly the GR app. Does anyone know how to find the original publishing date of a book?


message 1029: by Tytti (new)

Tytti | 1010 comments Btw, women play the same game, too, just with a bit shorter distances. They have even started sliding (head first, of course) in the recent years, men have been doing that since the beginning. So it's a bit funny when I came across the debate about sliding head first in baseball, I am so used to seeing that. Reportedly that was one of the things pesäpallo was supposed to teach to men/soldiers, diving for cover during a war.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXPFd...

Here is another article with a video by the Wall Street Journal: http://www.thepostgame.com/blog/eye-p...


message 1030: by Sue (new)

Sue K H (sky_bluez) | 3694 comments Darren wrote: "any baseball fans need to get on board with the August Buddy Read of Underworld! ;o)"

Underworld looks great! I'm going to try and fit it in at the end of the month .


message 1031: by Sue (new)

Sue K H (sky_bluez) | 3694 comments Linda wrote: "Totally off subject, but I use mostly the GR app. Does anyone know how to find the original publishing date of a book?"

Not sure if it's on the goodreads app but most features aren't. In the website the original published date is usually next to the published date in lighter type


message 1032: by Sue (new)

Sue K H (sky_bluez) | 3694 comments Tytti wrote: "There seems to be some baseball fans in this group. Are any of you aware that baseball is also popular in Finland but that we have our own version of it? Here is the fifth and final game of the men..."

How interesting Tytii! I did not know that Finland had baseball.

The slow pace of baseball is what turns many away. I like fast paced things also. I think seeing live games and learning to keep score at them would make it seem more fast paced. Believe me, you'd have a hard time getting the score right all the way to the end. I grew up going to games and my Dad taught me how to keep score early.

I don't keep score anymore and certainly not when watching on TV. The nice thing about the slow pace when watching on TV is that you can do other things while watching. I also love listening to it on the radio in the car.


message 1033: by Linda (new)

Linda (lindadol74) | 47 comments Thanks, Sue!


message 1034: by Brina (new)

Brina Baseball isn't slow at all says someone who was born during the World Series and has been a diehard fan for life. Anyway I really don't have time to read Underworld now. I have a packed next few months plus a month of holidays/cooking for them and the baseball playoffs which will distract me. I already have a list of classics for next year and Underworld is definitely on it. I just took 4 kids school supply shopping. I need a comfort read and a baseball game now. Sigh.


message 1035: by Tytti (new)

Tytti | 1010 comments Sue wrote: "I think seeing live games and learning to keep score at them would make it seem more fast paced."

I think I could keep score but I just don't see any point in the game when most of the time the batters won't even hit the ball. I tried watching softball a bit but it was the same thing. In pesäpallo it's relatively easy to get to the first base but to advance further you need help from good hitters, so more people can actually participate in the game. Like they wrote in that one article, one player ran 10.5 km during the game which is close to the distance footballers run in a match, so they have to be fit, too. And yes, I will use to word "football", not the other one.


message 1036: by Sue (new)

Sue K H (sky_bluez) | 3694 comments Brina wrote: "Baseball isn't slow at all says someone who was born during the World Series and has been a diehard fan for life. Anyway I really don't have time to read Underworld now. I have a packed next few mo..."

I didn't realize that Underworld was so long. I don't think I'll be able to get to it either.


message 1037: by Brina (new)

Brina I just taught my 9 year old to keep score. It's easy if you'd like to learn.


message 1038: by Sue (new)

Sue K H (sky_bluez) | 3694 comments Tytti wrote: "Sue wrote: "I think seeing live games and learning to keep score at them would make it seem more fast paced."

I think I could keep score but I just don't see any point in the game when most of the..."


The difficulty is what makes it more intense and exciting for many of us. I used to enjoy games with lots off offense more but now I appreciate a pitchers duels and "small ball"(where runs are created from stealing and bunting etc..) just as much. Baseball also appeals to many who enjoy math and statistics. It's all about match ups and probabilities. It's definitely not for everyone.

The Finish version looks fun too.


message 1039: by Tytti (last edited Aug 05, 2016 10:18AM) (new)

Tytti | 1010 comments I'm not quite sure what you mean by "keeping score"... If it's just that the pitcher is allowed three balls before the batter can go to the first base and that it's three strikes (or something) and out, then it's almost the same as is in pesäpallo, quite simple. After all we have played this since the first grade. Only in pesäpallo the pitcher is allowed 0 or 1 balls depending on the infield situation and you only have to run to third base to get a homerun.


message 1040: by Sue (new)

Sue K H (sky_bluez) | 3694 comments Tytti wrote: "I'm not quite sure what you mean by "keeping score"... If it's just that the pitcher is allowed three balls before the batter can go to the first base and that it's three strikes (or something) and..."

Keeping score is easy in theory, but you have to stay focused. You have to note whether some one strikes out looking or swinging, if they reached base, whether it was from a hit or an error or a combination of the two, which player an error was charged too, whether it was a wild pitch or passed ball etc.. It's a lot more than keeping track of the runs scored.


message 1041: by Brina (new)

Brina Each player is given a number: pitcher-1, catcher-2, etc. If someone grounds out to 2nd base, it is scored 4-3. I love keeping score I even do at home sometimes. I taught my daughter because she is determined to go to a game next year but she doesn't really like baseball. If she wants to go, she has to learn how to keep score. My son and I are teaching her and she gets it, but I still don't think she's interested in baseball.


message 1042: by Tytti (new)

Tytti | 1010 comments Yes but that's mainly statistics, isn't it? They have little to do with the actual result? Or with playing the game for fun. In many schools there is a tradition that teachers play against a team made of oldest students at the end of the school year.


message 1043: by Brina (new)

Brina It's stats but a score card helps me remember a game. I saved all mine from growing up. If someone hits a homerun I want to remember the other plays in the inning leading up to it.


message 1044: by Linda (new)

Linda (lindadol74) | 47 comments Baseball takes skill. One of the hardest feats in sports in general is to make contact with a small ball with a narrow bat, let alone having the power to hit it hard and in just the right place!! I don't follow baseball much anymore, but growing up near Los Angeles made me a Dodger fan for life :)


message 1045: by Tytti (new)

Tytti | 1010 comments OK, thanks... I think that I just prefer to watch action to keeping stats, though. I am more used to it. :-)


message 1046: by Sue (new)

Sue K H (sky_bluez) | 3694 comments Linda wrote: "Baseball takes skill. One of the hardest feats in sports in general is to make contact with a small ball with a narrow bat, let alone having the power to hit it hard and in just the right place!! I..."

Exactly Linda! Especially while hitting a fast ball pitch coming at you at 100mph, or a sinker that drops right as it nears the plate, or a curve ball that veers in or out, or a knuckleballer?!, it's really quite extraordinary.

Baseball is about precision and studying the stats & knowing what pitch a certain pitcher is likely to throw in different situations. Or for the pitcher, knowing which batters have problems laying off which pitches. Each at bat is like a mini chess game!


message 1047: by Tytti (last edited Aug 05, 2016 12:35PM) (new)

Tytti | 1010 comments Well, in pesäpallo you have to know where to hit and how hard in a certain situation, and then actually do that. And the outfield has to work together to try to make it as difficult as possible and get the ball to the base where the runner is going. It's a very tactical game, and that's why there is a "game leader" with that peacock fan, so everyone in the team knows what kind of a hit is coming and maybe also who will advance. It's a team sport and requires quick thinking, and was actually invented as a training sport for the soldiers to teach for example co-operation.

This is one way you can get a homerun: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7N3Di...


message 1048: by Brina (new)

Brina And the best players still only succeed 3 times out of 10. If the rest of us had that record, we'd be fired.


message 1049: by Sue (new)

Sue K H (sky_bluez) | 3694 comments Tytti wrote: "Well, in pesäpallo you have to know where to hit and how hard in a certain situation, and then actually do that. And the outfield has to work together to try to make it as difficult as possible and..."

Interesting. Same thing applies in baseball about knowing where to hit and how hard and we have a coach who tells them when to hit a bunt, sac fly or take a pitch etc.. Pesapallo seems to be a bit more like Cricket than baseball. It's somewhere in-between the two.


message 1050: by Tytti (new)

Tytti | 1010 comments Brina wrote: "And the best players still only succeed 3 times out of 10."

And that's my biggest problem with the game and why I prefer pesäpallo. The pitch is easier to hit but a good pitcher can still control the game if they can "read" it.

Here the pitcher causes three outs with one "tactical ball", bases were full: https://youtu.be/pmGHiwpzDtE?t=50m5s


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