Am I the only one who hates this book with burning passion? Showing 1,201-1,250 of 1,640

[A]

I completed On the Jellicoe Road aka Jellicoe road last night...that book is a fucking masterpiece, I've never read anything like that before. I would suggest you all to read it. I'm sad that it's so underrated while trash like TFIOS gets all the undeserved hype.

[Mochaspresso]

This confuses me a bit. Why wouldn't currently popular YA fiction authors be professionally friendly with each other? There is considerable overlapping in the fan-bases for their books. It makes complete and total sense from a professional standpoint.

Maybe I missed it in this thread, but what exactly are people basing their dislike of John Green as a person on? I know that he has an online presence, but beyond disliking his blogs or books, has he specifically done or said something that you disagreed with? I'm not referring to superficial things like not liking his personality for whatever reason. Is this personal hatred of him based on something more profound than not liking his blogs or books? I've disliked Hunter S. Thompson and Orson Scott Card on a personal level, but it was due to some of their political views that I vehemently disagreed with.

[A]

That's the thing about TFIOS, it demands to be loathed.

[Mochaspresso]

Aly∞ wrote: "@Mochaspresso: I met John Green in person and my dislike of him is based on when I met him. He was rude and acted like I should've been kissing the ground he walked on, and treated me rather badly ..."

I'm sorry that happened and I can certainly understand how something like that can affect your impressions of him....but honestly, I don't know if a brief fan encounter like that is enough to assert that you definitively know a person's true personality and character. At least, not in the manner that some people seem to be doing in this thread. I met Rob Lowe once a long time ago and he was the sweetest and nicest guy, then he got caught on tape having sex with two underaged girls. I ended up meeting him again many years later when the West Wing was filming in NY and once again he was sweet and nice and charming to his fans. I met Chris Brown once and he was really nice to his fans, too. I don't think brief fan interactions offer the best and most genuine insights into a person's true personality. Green might be a genuine asshole or he might have been having a bad day or a bad moment.

[A]

Has anyone read Eleanor and Park???? Is it good?

[antonia]

Ayesha wrote: "Has anyone read Eleanor and Park???? Is it good?" yes, i have, and its truly is amazing.

[Aria]

Ayesha wrote: "Has anyone read Eleanor and Park???? Is it good?"

I've read it and I absolutely adored it. It's one of my favorites.

I know I've already said this at one point during the discussion, but most of YA has turned to garbage. Books that are considered 'bestsellers' have plots about as original and as interesting as a piece of cardboard with characters that make me want to jump out of a window.

[Sara]

@Ayesha: Yes!!!! Omg that book puts everything John Green ever wrote to shame. It's so good, you should definitely read.

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Aria wrote: "Ayesha wrote: "Has anyone read Eleanor and Park???? Is it good?"

I've read it and I absolutely adored it. It's one of my favorites.

I know I've already said this at one point during the discussio..."
God, yes!

[A]

I'll definetly read E&P next, let my exams get over first.

@ Aria
I agree with you. If you look at YA you'll see that it's not a perfect genre but it's not bad either. The problem with YA is that all the trash get in to the bestselling list (like TFIOS, anything written by Cassandra Clare, Hush Hush, Twilight, Fallen etc. I can make a huge list) and masterpieces (like Jellicoe road, TBT, Angelfall, Between Shades of grey etc.) don't get the recognition they deserve. I blame publishers for hyping garbage that can fulfill the needs of the Twilight generation.
YA is a good genre, it has got many good books that are worth reading but the most hyped up books in this genre taint it's name and quality.

[Aria]

About every YA book with dystopia/cheesy-romance gets sold as a 'bestseller'.

@Ayesha

Ugh, don't even get me started on Cassandra Clare. I was talking to one of my friends who was a fan of her books and she said that she'd never read Harry Potter but she was sure that it could never be as good as TMI. Doesn't Clare have about 4-5 series' on Shadowhunters?

[A]

I've seen so many people on goodreads make comments like Cassandra Clare >>>> J.K Rowling and TMI/TID >>> HP . Ughhhh! How can someone compare a plagiarised and badly written series to Harry Potter is beyond my comprehension. I hate TMI.

As for YA dystopian series, the only one's I enjoyed were THG and Divergent but the last books in both the series were enough to make me lose my interest in them. I don't give a shit about THG and Divergent anymore. I used to be a huge fan of Delirium but after reading much better books I realised that Delirium is not that amazing. I absolutely loathed Legend, Shatter me (the last book in that series was good though) and Under the never sky.

[Aria]

Has anyone else here read Things I Know About Love? It has a similar kind of plot to TFIOS, but I liked Things I Know About Love a lot more.

@Ayesha

I used to be a huge fan of THG and Divergent until I read the last books.

[Bobbye]

What most touches me about your post is that it means you're actively seeking to fight or bond with people through hatred. And not even hatred of something that's worth getting worked up about (a YA novel, not a world event or law). I can't imagine that's fun. Just seems like a way to bring more anger into your life to me.

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Bobbye wrote: "What most touches me about your post is that it means you're actively seeking to fight or bond with people through hatred. And not even hatred of something that's worth getting worked up about (a Y..."
What...the...fuck?

[Von]

Aria wrote: "About every YA book with dystopia/cheesy-romance gets sold as a 'bestseller'.

@Ayesha

Ugh, don't even get me started on Cassandra Clare. I was talking to one of my friends who was a fan of her bo..."

You just broke my fangirl heart. LOL. Well, I do not give much fuck about THG and Divergent though. Well, maybe some people enjoy some books because of its characters. I missed the "plagiarized" thing, it's too late for that. I'm already engaged to the book.

Anyhow, if there is one book I hate the most that would be Daughter of Smoke & Bone!
I just can't finish it. The book is over-descriptive, the characters has no personality, the love affair made my eyes rolling non-stop it made me dizzy. They just kept awkwardly staring at each other, then after 2 nights of their staring contest: THEY ARE IN LOVE.

[Bobbye]

Brooke wrote: What...the...fuck?
Something confusing about that to you? I just don't understand why people would actively seek to focus on things they hate in the first place when they could go start topics talking about things they love.

[Von]

Bobbye: It is just normal to talk about the things you are against with. This is a discussion about hate and we are bonded with our opinion with the book, apperntly, that opinion is negative.

Please feel free to leave this hateful discussion whenever you want and seek for a discussion flooded with positive opinions, or some discussions about praise.

[Aria]

Bobbye wrote: "Brooke wrote: What...the...fuck?
Something confusing about that to you? I just don't understand why people would actively seek to focus on things they hate in the first place when they could go st..."

The discussions is a place to share opinions on a book, whether they are negative or positive. Not everyone's opinion will be the same, and not everyone will necessarily like a book; that's why we have topics like this. It's not much of an interesting discussion if there isn't at least a few differing opinions.

[Joshua]

Ayesha wrote: "Brooke wrote: "I've read some bad books, but never have I read such utter pretentious nonsense as this."

Agreed.

Celeste wrote: Libraries people!"

Unfortunately, there are no proper libraries i..."

This book is almost impossible to get this book from the library. It has 22 holds at my local library. So instead of staying on the four year waiting list, I just bought it at walmart for 10 bucks.
I understand where you're coming from. John Greens characters have tedency to be too intelligent for their own good, however, I felt that it worked for the characters in this book. Living between life and death would certainly change your perspective and views. I really enjoyed it and though I don't really see why you loathe it so much, I can see why other people wouldn't like it.

[Bobbye]

Yeah, I'm not sure you guys got my point. Whatever. Go on.

[Von]

You know, there is a book that made me cry that is somewhat identical to TFIOS: My Sister's Keeper. It was from not so long ago, lol. 2005 maybe or earlier than that. Anyone heard about this? It became a movie too.

[Mochaspresso]

Vons wrote: "You know, there is a book that made me cry that is somewhat identical to TFIOS: My Sister's Keeper. It was from not so long ago, lol. 2005 maybe or earlier than that. Anyone heard about this? It ..."

I cried like a baby over "My Sister's Keeper", too. The movie didn't stay true to the original book at all, but I thought that it was still very well done. My Sister's Keeper was a cancer book, but it was different from TFIOS because it's focus was more on how the cancer affected the family dynamics.

[Kimberly]

HE deducted one star, bro. Chill out. It's not like he's burning copies of his work in the streets.

[Danielle]

I read looking for alaska and all of the characters in that book were annoying. I haven't read the fault in our stars, but I believe you wholeheartedly.

[Siobhan]

Ayesha wrote: "I'll definetly read E&P next, let my exams get over first.

@ Aria
I agree with you. If you look at YA you'll see that it's not a perfect genre but it's not bad either. The problem with YA is that ..."

YA done well is incredible, but I agree, it's hard to find good YA and most people's opinions of the genre are formed on the popular-yet-dull YA. Occasionally something wonderful becomes a best seller, but rarely. I'm going to look up your recommendations when I can :) I'm writing a YA series myself, I've had good feedback from readers and looking for an editor right now (more, my friend who used to be an editor and said she was considering doing it again now has me going 'mine?') and then I'm self-publishing. Don't expect miracles out of me though!

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Cool! What's it about?

[A]

If you're publishing a book, I would love to read it, Siobhan. Just curious, why are you choosing self-pub instead of traditional pub methods? Is self -pub having more advantage over the other???

[Adéla]

I don't like this book and I didn't enjoy reading of The fault in our stars either. It acted like it want to wring out all of my tears and emotions, but it didn't, acually. It was full of cliches, this isn't possible to happen (I mean when August fell in love with Hazel..who'd ever do this in our corrupt society?). And not only that, there was more of it. But I can't write it literal, because I don't know so many english words to describe my feelings, like I didn't feel anything actually, the book provoked in me no power of emotions, I can't explain it otherwise.
But if I have to say something positive, I really love Looking for Alaska! ♥ That's the amazing one for me, it was the complete opposite of TFIOS, I can not help.

So that is my opinion, peace! ☮ ✌

[Ashley]

Its not as bad as your making it. You were a little to dramatic when you said," I hate it with a burning passion."

[Von]

"I hate it with burning passion."
It's a hyperbole, you know.

[Ashley]

Yeah I know that but you are being wayyyyy to dramatic.

[Von]

LOL. Idk. Maybe Ayesha wants to express her hate dramatically!

[Ashley]

So u don't hate this book?

[Siobhan]

Ayesha wrote: "If you're publishing a book, I would love to read it, Siobhan. Just curious, why are you choosing self-pub instead of traditional pub methods? Is self -pub having more advantage over the other???"

Because from endless talks with other writers, people in publishing, agents etc, there doesn't seem like much you can get from trad publishing these days that you don't from self-publishing, and it costs you as a writer about the same. The lines are so blurred between them now. But I wouldn't self-publish without hiring an editor, that's a mistake I see a lot out there!

@Brooke ... I actually suck at answering that question! It's a seven-part romance, but the books on their own work more like a character study. It's my two main characters meeting as teenagers and growing up together, seeing each other go through their own issues and helping each other out as much as they can. This probably hasn't explained anything about it, lol, but I'm hoping once it's done I'll get the results I want.

[Siobhan]

Adéla wrote: "I don't like this book and I didn't enjoy reading of The fault in our stars either. It acted like it want to wring out all of my tears and emotions, but it didn't, acually. It was full of cliches, ..."

When you say 'who does this in our society?' Do you mean fall in love, or say it the way Gus did? Because in my experience, people will declare their love for one another too early, and it always ends badly. I've had someone say it to me after two weeks, and it was like 'do you think that's what I want to hear?' He went off the relationship pretty quickly, too.

[Ashley]

My book is where this girl moves to town and she meets two guys. She falls in love with one of the boys. She has alot of things happen like parents car accident. Mom injured and the dad dies. She loses her best friend after she lets her feelings go lose. Then on top of that here dog gets sick. Then her real mom comes back and her mom gets back in jail. The book is titled the one left behind.

[Ashley]

Siobhan wrote: "Adéla wrote: "I don't like this book and I didn't enjoy reading of The fault in our stars either. It acted like it want to wring out all of my tears and emotions, but it didn't, acually. It was ful..."

I have had the person that meant the most to me say they hated me .

[Von]

So I bumped into Augustus Waters over the internet.

[A]

Hahahaha! I once got a troll on my comment on Page to Premier's official page on Facebook. I replied to Green's defence of Augustus' pretentiousness being 'an intentional character flaw' as bullshit, waste of money over something that causes cancer and author's lame attempt to cover up his mistakes and someone replied-


Fans get so dogmatic over a work of fiction.
Btw, say hi to Augustus from my side.

[Von]

Ughh, Aly. I think the photo doesn't show if you are using GR Mobile.

[A]

Once a girl called me an asshole on fb because I said that I hated TFIOS. Honestly, getting angry over a person because he hates your favourite book is just as good as getting angry over a person because he dislikes your favourite food or colour.

[[deleted user]]

Siobhan wrote: "Ayesha wrote: "If you're publishing a book, I would love to read it, Siobhan. Just curious, why are you choosing self-pub instead of traditional pub methods? Is self -pub having more advantage over..."
I'd love to read it. It would be refreshing to see something with a healthy, believable romance for a change.

[Molly]

You should read "This Star Won't Go Out" by Esther Earl. She is the young girl who inspired John Green to write "The Fault in Out Stars". They met at a Harry Potter convention and then became really good friends. He loosely based the character of Hazel off of Esther. He was friends with her up until the day she passed away and he is quoted in the intro to her book saying, "the person I most want to read it never will". I agree that the writing and the dialogue in TFIOS was very pretentious and there is not a 16 year-old in the world who speaks the way Augustus and Hazel do, so that took away from the book for me. Yet, overall I really enjoyed "The Fault in Our Stars" and I'm looking forward to finishing "This Star Won't Go Out."

[A]

Aly∞ wrote: "I HATE U SO MUCH AYESHA OMG ;)"



























































Jk, I love you ;)

[Aria]

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please.

[Von]

"the person I most want to read it never will"

Holy shit, Molly. That is the strongest line I have ever read in the book. I didn't know, I thought it is just a hint about what is gonna happen (which is someone will surely die in the end.)

"never will" Awwww. :'(
Goosebumps all over me. Esther Earl, sorry for hating!

[Von]

Okay. So now.... Fictional characters are ganging up on me. LOL.

[Siobhan]

Brooke wrote: "Siobhan wrote: "Ayesha wrote: "If you're publishing a book, I would love to read it, Siobhan. Just curious, why are you choosing self-pub instead of traditional pub methods? Is self -pub having mor..."

I don't know that it's healthy necessarily but definitely more realistic. Like, she starts the series as a non-virgin, they both date other people throughout. None of this 'we just met, you're the first person to show interest in me I love you now it's been a week let's get married' stuff I see everywhere. Unless I'm making a point ;)

[Siobhan]

Molly wrote: "You should read "This Star Won't Go Out" by Esther Earl. She is the young girl who inspired John Green to write "The Fault in Out Stars". They met at a Harry Potter convention and then became reall..."

My money would be on his secret relief that Esther would never see how bland John actually found her, if she's the basis for Hazel. Poor Esther, I'm sure she was far more vibrant than he gave her credit for!