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message 101: by MrsJoseph *grouchy*, Bad Girls Deadlift (new)

MrsJoseph *grouchy* (mrsjoseph) | 5312 comments Becky wrote: "Kartrashians, Lindsay Lohan, Shia leDouche... I could go on."

Chris wrote: "Miley Cyrus"


*so embarrassing*


message 102: by Jackie (new)

Jackie (thenightowl) Honey Boo Boo...

*shudder*


Mike (the Paladin) (thepaladin) | 1381 comments I'm an American and I refuse to take responsibility for any of them... talk to their parents.


message 104: by Gerard (new)

Gerard Quinn | 165 comments No point in talking to the parents Mike. They'll only blame the other children they hang around with as a bad influence lol.


message 105: by Chris , cookie guilt (new)

Chris  Haught (haughtc) | 2450 comments Well, Miley's dad is Billy Ray, so you'd get nowhere there.


message 106: by Chris , cookie guilt (new)

Chris  Haught (haughtc) | 2450 comments And who's the mother of the Kartrashians again? Hahaha...

Oh, but their father is a high paid attorney.

That got O.J. set free....


Mike (the Paladin) (thepaladin) | 1381 comments I heard him say once he wished he'd never allowed the Hanna Montana thing.


message 108: by Gerard (new)

Gerard Quinn | 165 comments True. The man who made the world suffer with achey breaky heart couldn't be a positive role model lol


message 109: by Gerard (new)

Gerard Quinn | 165 comments Although being from Ireland,maybe i shouldn't throw stones. For such a small nation we have inflicted the world with a fair share of idiots.


message 110: by Jackie (new)

Jackie (thenightowl) Gerard wrote: "Although being from Ireland,maybe i shouldn't throw stones. For such a small nation we have inflicted the world with a fair share of idiots."

ô_o ....Sinéad O'Connor


message 111: by Gerard (new)

Gerard Quinn | 165 comments Shes a walking disaster. Jedward are worse though and there is two of them lol


message 112: by Luke (new)

Luke | 333 comments I could make an argument about needing horrible celebrities for contrast so we can see just how good certain other celebrities are, but even I wouldn't truly believe it lol.


message 113: by Gerard (new)

Gerard Quinn | 165 comments I think reality tv has a lot to answer for. Mediocrity seems to be rewarded.


message 114: by Luke (new)

Luke | 333 comments Jackie wrote:ô_o ....Sinéad O'Connor"

True, but that voice...


message 115: by Gerard (new)

Gerard Quinn | 165 comments Aye its like nails down a blackboard lol


message 116: by Luke (new)

Luke | 333 comments Oh come on, her singing "Foggy Dew" is my favorite version of that song, lol.


message 117: by Gerard (new)

Gerard Quinn | 165 comments Lol honestly she has a great voice but all the antics that comes along with her nullifies it.


message 118: by Becky (new)

Becky (beckyofthe19and9) Gerard wrote: "I think reality tv has a lot to answer for. Mediocrity seems to be rewarded."

It's not just reality TV... it's the PCness of everything. Everyone is special, everyone gets a prize for showing up, everyone passes because losing or failing at something is "mean" and hurts their widdle souls. No child left behind? I say leave them behind. If they aren't passing, don't pass them. Let them try it again.

Apparently the in thing is giving out guest presents at birthday parties. No longer is the birthday-kid the recipient of gifts, you know, it being THEIR birthday - now EVERYONE gets one. I guess that's one way of making sure that people show up to your kid's party, though bribery hardly seems like it would be doing the kid any favors.


message 119: by HomeInMyShoes (new)

HomeInMyShoes "...when everyone's super, no one is."
- Syndrome

"They keep creating new ways to celebrate mediocrity"
- (Bob) Mr. Incredible


Mike (the Paladin) (thepaladin) | 1381 comments I've argued for years that school ought to be treated as a reward or privilege. Parents send ill behaved kids to teachers who are told to teach them "self-value' before teaching them reading and math.

If a kid disrupts a class or wants to quit school, send them home. Mom and dad both work? School isn't day care. They'll have to have a tutor or private school.

I agree with saying "good effort" to a loser and I always insisted my kids have good sportsmanship, the winner should shake the loser's hand and so on. But as noted if everybody get's a trophy, what's the point? If a class has 20 valedictorians it doesn't have a valedictorian.


message 121: by Gerard (new)

Gerard Quinn | 165 comments I agree, discipline in schools is a major problem. Discipline should begin at home but try telling the parents of a disruptive child and all hell would break loose. When i was at school i wouldn't have dared tell my parents that i'd been disciplined because i would have got the same again. Oh dear God i'm beginning to sound like my parents and grandparents before them lol


Mike (the Paladin) (thepaladin) | 1381 comments It's time in some cases. Wonder what the parents of the girl whose suing them think? I saw a photo of the dad with his head in his hands. He was probably remembering the little girl he used to spoil and wondering what happened.


message 123: by Jackie (new)

Jackie (thenightowl) Mike (the Paladin) wrote: "It's time in some cases. Wonder what the parents of the girl whose suing them think? I saw a photo of the dad with his head in his hands. He was probably remembering the little girl he used to spoi..."

You know she moved back in with her parents after the lawsuit? I read something about them working through their issues and asking for privacy.

That whole case was just so frivolous. Shame on the friend's parent for even paying for it.


message 124: by MrsJoseph *grouchy*, Bad Girls Deadlift (last edited Mar 14, 2014 10:15AM) (new)

MrsJoseph *grouchy* (mrsjoseph) | 5312 comments I think people have lost fear of their parents, too.

I mean, I'm still scared of my mom. Not as much but its still there. That woman is crazy.


One of my classmates in HS father is a professor at UNC-Chapel Hill. He used to get in trouble when we were in HS cause he believed kids should be able to drop out at any time past basic reading, writing and math (basically any time after elementary).

He'd say, "All schools has that "10% thug factor:" kids who will make school miserable for everyone else because they'd rather be in the streets than in school. I say, let them go! They don't want to be there, tell them to get out! That way my kid can learn without being harassed and the issues at the schools will trickle to nil."


message 125: by Jackie (new)

Jackie (thenightowl) Becky wrote: "
Apparently the in thing is giving out guest presents at birthday parties. No longer is the birthday-kid the recipient of gifts, you know, it being THEIR birthday - now EVERYONE gets one. I guess that's one way of making sure that people show up to your kid's party, though bribery hardly seems like it would be doing the kid any favors. "


Wow, I didn't know that people do that these days! Is this in lieu of party favors or in addition? I know the party favors thing was getting out of control too.

I had a coworker that threw a party for her daughter...I think she was turn 6 at the time and she was agonizing over it because so-so had such and such party favors and she felt like she had to top it. But, said coworker insisted she wasn't competing. No, she just wanted to make sure her kid fit in and not got made fun of. She always says this anytime she's buying something expensive for her daughter.


Mike (the Paladin) (thepaladin) | 1381 comments The girl moved back in but the lawsuit is still on. She's living at home but the suit is still being appealed.

The story I heard on the news was that when she moved out (because she wouldn't live by mom and dad's rules, like not bullying her little sister, she moved in with a friend. the friend's father is a lawyer and he filed the suit.


message 127: by Becky (new)

Becky (beckyofthe19and9) I guess they'd be counted as favors, Jackie. But still, it's not like they are prizes awarded for winning games, it's just a "you show up to the party, and you take home a free gift" thing. It annoys me.

My kids are going to be so deprived.


message 128: by Luke (new)

Luke | 333 comments I'm sure that by the time I have kids, (hopefully still a year or two away) the way I was raised, and the way I'll raise my children, will be considered abusive by those "everyone is a winner" types.

I wasn't even raised nearly as strictly as I could have been, and yet it is still miles beyond what these parents today do.


message 129: by Becky (new)

Becky (beckyofthe19and9) Yep.


message 130: by Gerard (new)

Gerard Quinn | 165 comments The guilt of letting my parents down was always a greater deterrent to misbehaving than the threat of getting walloped.


message 131: by Luke (new)

Luke | 333 comments Gerard wrote: "The guilt of letting my parents down was always a greater deterrent to misbehaving than the threat of getting walloped."

Even as an adult, when I've made mistakes, the feeling of failing my parents is almost always worse than the resulting consequences of the mistake.


message 132: by Jackie (new)

Jackie (thenightowl) Mike, oh ok. I didn't realize the lawsuit was still on. The whole thing is ridiculous. I'm glad the judge was sensible enough to consider the ramifications of ruling in favor of the daughter.


Becky, yeah my kids will be too. I don't want to be one of those parents whose 5 yr old kid has a better phone than them.


Mike (the Paladin) (thepaladin) | 1381 comments It's a strange world.


message 134: by colleen the convivial curmudgeon, Not a book hipster! (new)

colleen the convivial curmudgeon (blackrose13) | 2976 comments Luke wrote: "Oh come on, her singing "Foggy Dew" is my favorite version of that song, lol."

It is pretty amazing.


message 135: by Nyssa (new)

Nyssa | 2023 comments Becky wrote: "Kartrashians, Lindsay Lohan, Shia leDouche... I could go on."

Hey...whats wrong with Shia?


message 136: by Nyssa (last edited Mar 14, 2014 02:36PM) (new)

Nyssa | 2023 comments Its times like this when I revel in originally being from the Bahamas. We gave you Sidney Poitier! :D

Oh and Roxy Rocker (Hellen Willis from The Jeffersons, also Lenny Kravitz's mom). We also gave you Esther Rolle (Mama on Good Times)


message 137: by Becky (last edited Mar 14, 2014 05:00PM) (new)

Becky (beckyofthe19and9) Nyssa wrote: "Becky wrote: "Kartrashians, Lindsay Lohan, Shia leDouche... I could go on."

Hey...whats wrong with Shia?"


He's acting like a major d-bag. He plagiarized someone's work, and then went all passive-aggressive overkill in his "apology", gets into fights, now is into this whole "I'm not famous anymore" bag-on-his-head thing where he just wants people to simultaneously ignore him and watch his every move, then turned that into an art-exhibit where people can punish him using various items (which has also been done before) in repentence for the plagiarism.

He's a d-bag.

[Edited to clarify that the art show has been done before, not that it was done before for the same reason.]


message 138: by Gerard (new)

Gerard Quinn | 165 comments So apart from all that he is a great lad


message 139: by Becky (new)

Becky (beckyofthe19and9) Gerard wrote: "So apart from all that he is a great lad "

Makes his mother proud, I'm sure.


message 140: by MrsJoseph *grouchy*, Bad Girls Deadlift (new)

MrsJoseph *grouchy* (mrsjoseph) | 5312 comments Becky wrote: "Gerard wrote: "So apart from all that he is a great lad "

Makes his mother proud, I'm sure."


*snicker*


message 141: by colleen the convivial curmudgeon, Not a book hipster! (new)

colleen the convivial curmudgeon (blackrose13) | 2976 comments Becky wrote: "Makes his mother proud, I'm sure."

Is he a little worm on a big fucking hook?


message 142: by Becky (new)

Becky (beckyofthe19and9) It's too early in the morning... I don't get what you mean by that, Colleen.


message 143: by colleen the convivial curmudgeon, Not a book hipster! (new)

colleen the convivial curmudgeon (blackrose13) | 2976 comments It's a movie reference. Cookies to whoever gets it. (No cheating!)


message 144: by Chris , cookie guilt (new)

Chris  Haught (haughtc) | 2450 comments damn, I should know that one.


message 145: by Lee (new)

Lee | 939 comments I was never disciplined. And if I was ever spanked I don't remember it. But I respected my elders. My mom was a single mother and we lived with my grandparents, they pretty much raised me. I wasn't afraid of them - I was afraid of disappointing them. In my experience (watching my youngest cousin especially) kids who don't respect their parents aren't going to respect anyone.

Or maybe I'm just becoming a cranky "adult" finally. ;)


message 146: by Becky (new)

Becky (beckyofthe19and9) Colleen wrote: "It's a movie reference. Cookies to whoever gets it. (No cheating!)"

Ohhhhh... Gotcha. I cheated (since I already lost :P) and that's a great movie, but I never would have made that connection. LOL


message 147: by colleen the convivial curmudgeon, Not a book hipster! (new)

colleen the convivial curmudgeon (blackrose13) | 2976 comments How the things like the UGB really get tested:




message 148: by colleen the convivial curmudgeon, Not a book hipster! (last edited Mar 17, 2014 05:38PM) (new)

colleen the convivial curmudgeon (blackrose13) | 2976 comments Becky wrote: "
Ohhhhh... Gotcha. I cheated (since I already lost :P) and that's a great movie, but I never would have made that connection. LOL "


I probably wouldn't have if it weren't for Jeremy. He loves that line and uses it constantly. :)


I hear talk they're remaking it, which makes me kinda sad...


message 149: by DavidO (new)

DavidO (drgnangl) Colleen wrote: "How the things like the UGB really get tested:



"

I had to look up what the heck A/B testing was. I'm pretty out of it.


message 150: by colleen the convivial curmudgeon, Not a book hipster! (new)

colleen the convivial curmudgeon (blackrose13) | 2976 comments


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