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Moonlight On My Mind, by Jennifer McQuiston “Buddy Read” (Start Date: April 15, 2014)
@ June#1 – I’m hoping she grows – a lot!!
#4 – Yes, I see inconsistency, too. You would think he’d be in mourning.
#7 – LOL! Sorry!
#11 – Very true about Skip.
#13 – You’re very understanding.
#14 – True!
#16 – Yup.
@ Ipshita#11 - Yes, why was she shedding her clothes there?
#12 – For once her shrewish tongue was aimed in the right direction; I thought something would come of that, though, and the Reverend would be the one to make them marry.
#14 – Alright, I’ll take that into account.
#15 – I didn’t read that book. Seems like she’s had a life of privilege, though.
#16 – Impulsive! That’s a good word for her.
June's Discussion Questions – and Lisa Kay’s Answers for Chapters 8-12
19. What do you ladies think about their wedding night? Do you think less of Patrick for not confess his ulterior motif for marrying Julianne?
I don’t think any less of him, but it is a good question; why am I more prone to excuse him and not her. I thought the wedding night was a disaster.
20. Julianne thought Patrick married her because he had feeling for her. Well he certainly felt lust toward her. Do you think that Julianne naive for not suspecting Patrick actually only use her? Did it endear her to you or irritated you more?
I think she’s pretty naïve. No, it didn’t endear her to me. She has only become more irritating to me, but that is because of her stupid lie about seeing him shoot his brother.
21. Whoa, she didn't exactly see what happened yet she told what she "thought" what happened. There is huge difference there. And that partly because she didn't want to admit her poor eyesight. She obviously felt guilty, but do you think it’s enough? If you were Patrick, could you forgive her?
It was completely idiotic and really and pretty unforgivable, not to mention vain. She should feel beyond guilty! I don’t know how the author is going to turn this around. Nope. I don’t think I could forgive her, or if I could, I wouldn’t want anything to do with her.
21. So Patrick and his brother did argue about Julianne that fateful day. What do you think they were arguing about? Do you think it was sick that Patrick wanted her even after the last thing he and his brother did was arguing about her?
I’m thinking there was more to the story/argument that just that they each wanted her. Maybe Eric was just going to toy with her and then toss her away. Yeah, Patrick loses points for still wanting her. Men!
22. I'm surprised that Patrick just wanted to hush things up and not look for the maid. Didn't he feel tad curious about what the maid saw? (I certainly do). If maybe there was someone who killed his brother and then pinned down the crime on him. What do you think? Do you think Patrick accidentally shot his brother or there might be a mysterious shooter lurking around?
Yes, I don’ think this was wise on his part; I’m curious, too. I’m thinking someone was pinning the crime on him. I don’t think Patrick accidentally shot his brother, but he seems to think that is possible, and at time feels guilty, but then he backs away from this, so I see it as inconsistent.
23. Oh my, that was awkward meet the parent moment. I don't know how Patrick's mother could accept Julianne as daughter in law after ruined her son. What do you think?
Very awkward. No fun moments so far in this book, except when the dog hid in the previous section. Maybe the two fighting dogs will eventually mate and have puppies?
June's Discussion Question for Chap 8-1219. What do you ladies think about their wedding night? Do you think less of Patrick for not confess his ulterior motif for marrying Julianne? Not thrill with the wedding night but I blame Julianne for that. No, I don't feel badly for Patrick not confessing.
20. Julianne thought Patrick married her because he had feeling for her. Well he certainly felt lust toward her. Do you think that Julianne naive for not suspecting Patrick actually only use her? Did it endear her to you or irritated you more? Julianne is certainly clueless. I have a feeling she will be clued in soon.
21. Whoa, she didn't exactly see what happened yet she told what she "thought" what happened. There is huge difference there.
And that partly because she didn't want to admit her poor eyesight. She obviously felt guilty, but do you think its enough? If you were Patrick, could you forgive her? In truth it makes me despise her more. She had no clue what happened and yet she blabbed like she did. I have a feeling her companion (maid) "set her up".
21. So Patrick and his brother did argue about Julianne that fateful day. What do you think they were arguing about? Do you think it was sick that Patrick wanted her even after the last thing he and his brother did was arguing about her? I'm thinking Eric had plans to seduce her or something and maybe Patrick was trying to change his mind. I do wonder why Patrick was attracted to her.
22. I'm surprised that Patrick just wanted to hushed thing up and not looking for the maid. Didn't he feel tad curious about what the maid saw? (I certainly do). If maybe there was someone who killed his brother and then pinned down the crime on him. What do you think? Do you think Patrick accidentally shot his brother or there might be a mysterious shooter lurking arround? I'm thinking that one of the cousins shot Eric and hoped Patrick going to prison would secure the title for him.
23. Oh my, that was awkward meet the parent moment. I don't know how Patrick's mother could accept Julianne as daughter in law after ruined her son.
What do you think? I thought Patrick's mother was much more gracious than I would have been.
@ Pamela#21 - I feel the same way; she just painted herself darker by confessing all that. I think you're right about her being "set up."
#22 - Well, Julianne say his title would revert to the crown, but what does she know?
@Pamela @Lisa KayThe cousins' last name are Blythe and Willoughby, not Channing. I assume that the title belong to Channing's line. So neither could be Patrick's heir. Unless Patrick has a Channing male cousin or the title can pass on to the daughter (which I highly doubt) the title would revert to crown.
If the cousins were behind this, then what they went after? The fortune usually entailed with the title, so without the title, they got nothing.
Lisa Kay wrote: I don’t think any less of
him, but it is a good
question; why am I more
prone to excuse him and
not her. I thought the
wedding night was a
disaster. "
I find myself easier to forgive a villain turn to redeemed hero, like St Vincent from Wallflowers seriea. But its harder if the vilain is a woman. There are many books that I refuse to read, even if I really like the series, because I dislike the way the heroine potrayed in other book.
June wrote: "@Pamela @Lisa KayThe cousins' last name are Blythe and Willoughby, not Channing. I assume that the title belong to Channing's line. So neither could be Patrick's heir. Unless Patrick has a Channi..."
Hmmm, well, it worked in other novels. lol
June wrote: "There are many books that I refuse to read, even if I really like the series, because I dislike the way the heroine potrayed in other book."Yes, I'm the same way. If I don't like a character in one book earlier in the series, it is hard for me to warm up to them, if they are given their own book. The author has to be very skilled here and play to my moodiness. Not an easy task. LOL!
Pamela(AllHoney) wrote: "June wrote: "@Pamela @Lisa KayThe cousins' last name are Blythe and Willoughby, not Channing. I assume that the title belong to Channing's line. So neither could be Patrick's heir. Unless Patrick..."
LoL yeah, the author can spin it arround the way he/she likes, but I hope its consintent. So far, both Julianne and Patrick were awfully inconsistent here
Lisa Kay wrote: "June wrote: "There are many books that I refuse to read, even if I really like the series, because I dislike the way the heroine potrayed in other book."Yes, I'm the same way. If I don't like a ..."
Hehe I could be really judgemental to book's characters
Whoa. Two in a row. That isn't good odds, Jenny. But, I understand.
Kit★'s Answers to Pamela's Discussion Questions - Chapter 4 - 711. Reverend Ramsey shows up looking for his dog. What do you think of him denying the dog due to his loss of leg? What about his attitude towards Julianne? Was he justified in his judgments against her?
I think he's an ass for being like that about the dog. I think his attitude was not surprising given the intro to his character, but she was standing there nearly topless, and it's the Victorian times, so his reaction was probably typical, and to be expected.
12. What do you think of Julianne's response to Rev. Ramsey?
Hello, attitude. But it was ok.
13. Patrick learns his father is truly dead. His father was the only one who believed in his innocence. What do you think of Patrick's mother for not having faith in him? Do you condemn her for her belief?
I would believe in my child no matter what unless there was undeniable evidence and proof that he was in the wrong, so I'm not sure how I'm going to like her for that.
14. Patrick meets with James and David and marriage is mention. Do you think James was conspiring against Patrick? Since Patrick was the only single one of them? Or do you think he truly believed that was the only way to "fix" the situation?
It might not have been the only way to fix the situation, but it was the easier way I guess. I don't think he was deliberately sending him the marriage route out of any matchmaking desire or anything though.
15. Julianne didn't lock the door. Is she stupid or what? Was she so spoiled and protected at home that she honestly didn't think anything of the unlocked door?
Probably, I mean, she wasn't brought up in a place where people would be busting in on her, so she probably didn't think anything of it.
16. Do you blame Patrick for not saying anything and letting Julianne believe she was the only one with the idea for marriage? Do you think he will confess that he has his own reasons for the marriage?
No, not really. With her attitude, it was probably better to let her think it was her idea, lol. I think he'll tell her his other reasons eventually.
17. What is up with Julianne's resentment over being told what to do?
Just another shining aspect of her spoiled-ness xD
18. What do you think of Gemmy and his affection for Julianne?
It's ok, I didn't expect him to growl at her or anything, and it's kinda funny how Patrick sees the dog as a 'traitor'
I'm only on chapter 4 but I really like both of them so far
I'm starting to warm up to her a bit. But I must confess I'm on chapter 20.
Lisa Kay’s Discussion Questions for Prologue – Chapter 3 1. How do you feel about Julianne Baxter? Do you like her, dislike her, or feel neutral towards her right now? Is she just a shallow flirt? And a bossy one at that? (I don’t like her voice on the audio; she sounds quite spoiled and stuck-up.)
I like her. I don't mind brats or spoiled heroines .
2. Was her motive for seeking out Patrick’s brother purely mercenary with regards to marriage? Or is there more to this? It doesn’t seem as if she needs the money.
Getting married had been important in those days ,her action had been probably quit normal
3. Is it tricky for an author to pull off having the heroine start off liking one character and switch their affections to another? Do they run the high risk of making them seem fickle? Julianne switched her affections quite quickly, IMHO. But maybe all it takes is a kiss...and she is young.
I won't call her feeling towards Eric affection. She was young , inexperienced and bored. She hadn't seen Patrick among Ton and it didn't last more than a few pages so I don't mind the switch at all.
4. How do you feel about Patrick Channing? Do you like him? He seems to have Julianne’s number right off the bat. Are you like me and have a soft-spot in your heart for veterinarians?
I like him so far because I haven't seen much of him to feel otherwise!
5. Don’t you find it improbable that Julianne would be traveling alone to Scotland?
The point here was she did something very dangerous because her conscious didn't let her.She couldn't sit and watch something bad happens to Patrick's family because of her 6. BOOK QUOTE: “There can always be a mistake.” We don’t know much about the circumstances of Patrick’s brother death, nor Julianne’s roll in it. Does this make it hard for you to get a grasp of their conversation after the dog’s surgery?
no i was Ok with it. it was enough for me to know she was the one who had accused him of murder at this point
7. Speaking of the dog’s surgery, that lamb crying in the background was a little too much Silence of the Lamb for me. Comments?
No comment about the surgery !it was too much for me . I don't like thinking about or imagining or watching surgery and anything to do with blood and gore but I liked the lamb
8. It seems Patrick has mixed feelings towards Julianne; that he is still attracted to her. How can that be, given her accusation?
They were attracted to each other before , you can't turn off the attraction
9. Do you think Patrick and Eric were fighting over Julianne? Was the blood on Patrick from his vet work?
Probably just siblings rivalry ,whatever one of them wants the other one wants too. wasn't it Eric's blood on his sleeves?
10. Do you think they’ll go back to London? If so, will it be together?
I think they will but I have a suspicion they will get married before going !
I'm reading your comments about J , are we reading the same book?
June's Discussion Question for Chap 8-1219. What do you ladies think about their wedding night? Do you think less of Patrick for not confess his ulterior motif for marrying Julianne?
I was coming to like Julianne, but her know-it-all and never-think-before-you-jump-into-foray attitude is simply grating my patience. If her first time went wrong, it’s only cause of her own fault. Her character is very unstable. The fact that she regrets her actions later is her saving grace.
Patrick is better off not confessing for the while. Julianne would no doubt throw a tantrum, and I don’t think I can tolerate any more stupid mistakes on her part. However, she does show an occasional glimpse of intelligence.
20. Julianne thought Patrick married her because he had feeling for her. Well he certainly felt lust toward her. Do you think that Julianne naive for not suspecting Patrick actually only use her? Did it endear her to you or irritated you more?
I found the fact very unlike her. Julianne might have been an innocent maiden, but she was in no way naïve.
It irritated me. She was the one accused Patrick of murder. Even if she could believe that Patrick married her to save her reputation, I don’t get where the idea of his being in love comes in this situation.
21. Whoa, she didn't exactly see what happened yet she told what she "thought" what happened. There is huge difference there.
And that partly because she didn't want to admit her poor eyesight. She obviously felt guilty, but do you think its enough? If you were Patrick, could you forgive her?
If Julianne had tried to rescue the situation before, she could have made a great difference. Plus giving the excuse of poor eyesight is not nearly enough.
If I were Patrick I could not have forgiven her instantly, it would have taken me at least a while.
22. So Patrick and his brother did argue about Julianne that fateful day. What do you think they were arguing about? Do you think it was sick that Patrick wanted her even after the last thing he and his brother did was arguing about her?
I do not consider Julianne to be worth all that fight. Julianne might be likable now, but she was extremely vain the first time she met the brothers.
I was more astonished by the fact that he wanted her even after she accused him of murder and that too over a misconception.
23. I'm surprised that Patrick just wanted to hushed thing up and not looking for the maid. Didn't he feel tad curious about what the maid saw? (I certainly do). If maybe there was someone who killed his brother and then pinned down the crime on him. What do you think?
Do you think Patrick accidentally shot his brother or there might be a mysterious shooter lurking arround?
Maybe he thought searching for the maid would only create more trouble, since she is convinced that Patrick should be convicted. But I would have wanted him to at least investigate her.
I think it is very likely that Patrick didn’t shoot his brother. Julianne does mention hearing two shots, so maybe the other shot was from another shooter.
24. Oh my, that was awkward meet the parent moment. I don't know how Patrick's mother could accept Julianne as daughter in law after ruined her son.
What do you think?
Maybe if Patrick and Julianne could convince his mother that their marriage was the right decision, she might accept the match.
You are too forgiving, ShoSho.
Ipshita wrote: "You are too forgiving, ShoSho."I'm not !She seems really OK to me !
Pamela's Discussion Question - Chapter 4 - 711. Reverend Ramsey shows up looking for his dog. What do you think of him denying the dog due to his lost of leg? What about his attitude towards Julianne? Was he justified in his judgments against her?
We have met him before in the other books he is not a pleasant character .I was expecting him to do something like that . He had almost the same reaction to Georgette
12. What do you think of Julianne's response to Rev. Ramsey?
I liked it .I would have loved it if she had slapped him or something!
13. Patrick learns his father is truly dead. His father was the only one who believed in his innocence. What do you think of Patrick's mother for not having faith in him? Do you condemn her for her belief?
It's hard to say . we don't know a lot about the dynamics in that family
14. Patrick meets with James and David and marriage is mention. Do you think James was conspiring against Patrick? Since Patrick was the only single one of them? Or do you think he truly believed that was the only way to "fix" the situation?
hmmm no I think it was really the only way to fix this . I don't think James would do such a thing ,he wouldn't try to set him up with someone he doesn't know well
15. Julianne didn't lock the door. Is she stupid or what? Was she so spoiled and protected at home that she honestly didn't think anything of the unlocked door?
I guess so! it probably didn't even occurred to her
16. Do you blame Patrick for not saying anything and letting Julianne believe she was the only one with the idea for marriage? Do you think he will confess that he has his own reasons for the marriage?
No I don't blame him! and no he won't! I'm thinking she will find out on her own and this will cause lots of drama
17. What is up with Julianne's resentment over being told what to do?
:D is this a bad thing? I don't like being told what to do either
18. What do you think of Gemmy and his affection for Julianne?
I like it. It shows she is good poeple!
Pamela's Discussion Question - Chapter 4 - 711. Reverend Ramsey shows up looking for his dog. What do you think of him denying the dog due to his lost of leg? What about his attitude towards Julianne? Was he justified in his judgments against her? I thought it was sad that he didn't claim his dog after he lost his leg. Poor puppy! Of course, he's better off without a master like that! No, I can't say that he was justified with his judgements towards Julianne, that's not how I believe a Reverend should be. Then again, she set herself up for that pretty easy. She doesn't seem to care or understand the consequences of her actions.
12. What do you think of Julianne's response to Rev. Ramsey? I admit that I was cheering her on a little for giving it back to him, but it sure won't help her any.
13. Patrick learns his father is truly dead. His father was the only one who believed in his innocence. What do you think of Patrick's mother for not having faith in him? Do you condemn her for her belief? Sad, just sad. I was set up not to like her much just for that alone. It made me wonder if it was always like that. Was Eric always held so high while Patrick was disregarded?
14. Patrick meets with James and David and marriage is mention. Do you think James was conspiring against Patrick? Since Patrick was the only single one of them? Or do you think he truly believed that was the only way to "fix" the situation? I haven't read the first two books so I couldn't make a clear judgement on their character but I believed that they were truly trying to save their friend. I have got to read those first 2 books!
15. Julianne didn't lock the door. Is she stupid or what? Was she so spoiled and protected at home that she honestly didn't think anything of the unlocked door? Yeah, she's not very bright.
16. Do you blame Patrick for not saying anything and letting Julianne believe she was the only one with the idea for marriage? Do you think he will confess that he has his own reasons for the marriage? I don't blame him at all.
17. What is up with Julianne's resentment over being told what to do? Grow a pair or grow up! LOL.
18. What do you think of Gemmy and his affection for Julianne? Maybe he knows something that we don't :)
ShoSho wrote: "Pamela's Discussion Question - Chapter 4 - 717. What is up with Julianne's resentment over being told what to do?
:D is this a bad thing? I don't like being told what to do either "
LOL! Good point :D
June's Discussion Question for Chap 8-1219. What do you ladies think about their wedding night? Do you think less of Patrick for not confess his ulterior motif for marrying Julianne? *Rolls Eyes* I was starting to have some hope and she ruined it. No, I still don't think he should have to confess.
20. Julianne thought Patrick married her because he had feeling for her. Well he certainly felt lust toward her. Do you think that Julianne naive for not suspecting Patrick actually only use her? Did it endear her to you or irritated you more? She seems to live in her own bubble and I think reality will soon make an appearance.
21. Whoa, she didn't exactly see what happened yet she told what she "thought" what happened. There is huge difference there.
And that partly because she didn't want to admit her poor eyesight. She obviously felt guilty, but do you think its enough? If you were Patrick, could you forgive her? This was big. Of course she feels guilty after ruining a man's life and accusing him of MURDERING HIS BROTHER! What kind of person does that without actual facts? Yes, I think she was used in setting him up. I'm still shaking my head over this, it was really stupid and heartless on her part. Let's just ruin people's lives because I don't want people to know that I need glasses. Glasses are not attractive. Sorry, rage-rant over.
21. So Patrick and his brother did argue about Julianne that fateful day. What do you think they were arguing about? Do you think it was sick that Patrick wanted her even after the last thing he and his brother did was arguing about her? I wonder what exactly they were arguing about. I mean Patrick knew that Julianne was just using him to get to Eric.
22. I'm surprised that Patrick just wanted to hushed thing up and not looking for the maid. Didn't he feel tad curious about what the maid saw? (I certainly do). If maybe there was someone who killed his brother and then pinned down the crime on him. What do you think?
Do you think Patrick accidentally shot his brother or there might be a mysterious shooter lurking around? I think Patrick is consumed with guilt and he's afraid the maid will only make a stronger case against him. But yeah, I definitely want her story.
23. Oh my, that was awkward meet the parent moment. I don't know how Patrick's mother could accept Julianne as daughter in law after ruined her son.
What do you think? This whole thing is a mess!
@ Kit★#15 – Okay, I’ll allow for that.
#16 – LOL! Yes, she certainly has “attitude.”
@ ShoSho#1 – Okay…
#2 – Very true. We’ve come a long way.
#3 – You all convinced me; I’ll allow she didn’t feel affection toward Eric.
#8 – Good point.
#12 – FOFLMBO! Yes, that would have been enjoyable, and in keeping with her personality, I think.
#17 – LOL!
#18 – It is a good sign.
@ Ipshita#19 – I agree; the disaster of the wedding night was mostly her fault… but she seems to think of it as more of a “duty.” The old, “Close your eyes and think of England.”
#21 – Ditto!
#23 – Yes, there were TWO shots.
@Nichole#12 – LOL! No, I didn’t think so.
#13 – I don’t know.
#14 – I enjoyed the first two books.
#17 – **hee hee**
#20 – Probably.
#21 – Yes, “stupid & heartless” pretty much covers it.
#22 – Really?!
I'll come up with some DQs for the next section...
Kit★'s Answers to June's Discussion Question for Chap 8-1219. What do you ladies think about their wedding night? Do you think less of Patrick for not confess his ulterior motif for marrying Julianne?
Ugh, silly girl had to go and act like she knew what was going on. I don't blame him at all, she made him do it, so if it hurt that was her fault for not letting him do his thing. I don't think less of Patrick for anything.
20. Julianne thought Patrick married her because he had feeling for her. Well he certainly felt lust toward her. Do you think that Julianne naive for not suspecting Patrick actually only use her? Did it endear her to you or irritated you more?
I think she was lucky that he felt lust, and not extreme dislike. I don't think she's naive so much. I don't dislike her, she's ok.
21. Whoa, she didn't exactly see what happened yet she told what she "thought" what happened. There is huge difference there.
And that partly because she didn't want to admit her poor eyesight. She obviously felt guilty, but do you think its enough? If you were Patrick, could you forgive her?
It was not a very smart move on her part, but she was a teenager, and plenty of teenagers have done stupider things. I don't know that I'd be able to forgive until everything was fixed.
21. So Patrick and his brother did argue about Julianne that fateful day. What do you think they were arguing about? Do you think it was sick that Patrick wanted her even after the last thing he and his brother did was arguing about her?
No idea what they were arguing about besides her. Maybe because Patrick was warning his brother that she was after him or something? I dunno.
22. I'm surprised that Patrick just wanted to hushed thing up and not looking for the maid. Didn't he feel tad curious about what the maid saw? (I certainly do). If maybe there was someone who killed his brother and then pinned down the crime on him. What do you think?
Do you think Patrick accidentally shot his brother or there might be a mysterious shooter lurking around?
I'd be curious too. They need to find her and find out what she did see, because if there was two shots, then maybe someone else did the killing. One of the cousins maybe. I'm definitely leaning more towards someone else doing it, not Patrick.
23. Oh my, that was awkward meet the parent moment. I don't know how Patrick's mother could accept Julianne as daughter in law after ruined her son.
What do you think?
It was definitely awkward. I don't think she accepted it very easily, but she knew better than to argue, and who knows, maybe she's willing to give Julianne a chance to try and help fix things.
@ Kit★#19 - At least there weren't "lessons" going on. ☺
#21 – I wondered about that, too.
Lisa Kay’s Discussion Questions for Chapter 13 - 17
24. Jonathon Blythe, Patrick’s cousin, too obvious a suspect in the murder? What of his cousin, George Willoughby?
25. Can Lord Avery, Patrick’s father-in-law, and he be friends? Seems he knew of his daughter’s vision.
26. Patrick’s father’s death is suspicious?! Comments.
27. Did you like the reunion with Patrick and his sisters, Mary & Eleanor? What stood out to you?
28. Ah! Julianne is off and running after Patrick again, but we do find that the brothers were arguing over her. And that she regrets dancing with Eric. What do you make of the cousins asking her to dance? Anything there?
29. What of both Patrick and Eric taking the shot at the buck? At the risk Eric took in hitting Patrick? Was it the stag bounding away, or the killer?
30. Well, Julianne’s a fast learner! What did you think of that love scene in the folly? A cold October night out-of-doors. Not exactly a setting with which I’d think Julianne would allow. She is quite unpredictable. Comments.
Step-back from inside book is the folly scene.31. What did you think of the results of Julianne’ inquiry about the maid, Prudence Smith? Are you glad she at least is asking questions, or will this bring a new set of problems?
32. Thoughts on Julianne’s interact with Aunt Margaret at the breakfast table? Did Julianne again speak without pausing to think, or did the old biddy deserve it? Will she be a formidable adversary?
Sorry. I meant breakfast table for DQ #32; changed it.
Lisa Kay’s Discussion Questions for Chapter 13 - 17 24. Jonathon Blythe, Patrick’s cousin, too obvious a suspect in the murder? What of his cousin, George Willoughby? I definitely felt Blythe was too obvious and I was going with George.
25. Can Lord Avery, Patrick’s father-in-law, and he be friends? Seems he knew of his daughter’s vision. Maybe someday!
26. Patrick’s father’s death is suspicious?! Comments. Definitely! I was suspicious almost right away.
27. Did you like the reunion with Patrick and his sisters, Mary & Eleanor? What stood out to you? He loves his sisters! Made me love him more.
28. Ah! Julianne is off and running after Patrick again, but we do find that the brothers were arguing over her. And that she regrets dancing with Eric. What do you make of the cousins asking her to dance? Anything there? Does make me wonder if one of the cousins had that jealousy thing going.
29. What of both Patrick and Eric taking the shot at the buck? At the risk Eric took in hitting Patrick? Was it the stag bounding away, or the killer? The Killer! I'm sure of it!
30. Well, Julianne’s a fast learner! What did you think of that love scene in the folly? A cold October night out-of-doors. Not exactly a setting with which I’d think Julianne would allow. She is quite unpredictable. Comments. I'm thinking this was around the time I started warming towards her. Not Completely but some. Maybe she isn't the shrew I think she is.
31. What did you think of the results of Julianne’ inquiry about the maid, Prudence Smith? Are you glad she at least is asking questions, or will this bring a new set of problems? I thinking more problems but this author is unpredictable to me.
32. Thoughts on Julianne’s interact with Aunt Margaret at the breakfast table? Did Julianne again speak without pausing to think, or did the old biddy deserve it? Will she be a formidable adversary? I don't like Aunt Margaret and wouldn't be surprised if she knows something. But I think Julianne is of the temperament that won't allow her to run over her.
@ Pamela#24 – Yes, I think Blythe might be a Red Herring… but you never know.
#26 – I’m very suspicious.
#28 – It also makes me wonder if there is a loop-hole in the whole inheritance thing; maybe one was planning on appealing to the Crown?
#29 – Ditto!
#30 – Yes, probably about the time for me, too. A little, anyways.
#32 – She might even be the killer? **shrugs** But doubtful… Or maybe the mastermind.
Kit★ wrote: "Ack! Lessons! ROFL"**hee hee**
Lisa Kay’s Discussion Questions for Chapter 18 - 20
33. Patrick is chasing Julianne; I think he likes it!
34. Is Julianne right about having a dinner party? And right about the correct attire?
35. Uh. WTH? I think Patrick is a little daft about thinking Blythe killing those puppies was just him being “difficult.” You? Or is that just because, in this day and age, we now know what this implies about serial killers? Comments.
36. Well, we knew Julianne wasn’t a biddable wife. Still, serendipity led her to Prudence and not deceit. And, I’ll admit it; I thought Prudence was part of the conspiracy. However, now it appears her life could be in danger. If they find her, will she make it to testifying to Mr. Farmington, the magistrate?
37. What did you think of the conversation Blythe initiated – and his innuendos? Do you think he did so as to figure out if Julianne is enceinte, not necessarily because he thought so? With the other questions, was he just stirring the pot for his own machinations?
38. So, more information is told to us: Eric’s gun was never fired. Comments on Patrick’s conversation with Mr. Farmington and Blythe.
That catches us up with the DQs as of today.
Lisa Kay’s Discussion Questions for Chapter 18 - 20 33. Patrick is chasing Julianne; I think he likes it! Yes, I think he does.
34. Is Julianne right about having a dinner party? And right about the correct attire? I don't think so but I'm not living in that era so... **shrugs**
35. Uh. WTH? I think Patrick is a little daft about thinking Blythe killing those puppies was just him being “difficult.” You? Or is that just because, in this day and age, we now know what this implies about serial killers? Comments. I'm very disturbed about the puppies. Made me second guess my choice of villains even. I do think Patrick is undermining the situation.
36. Well, we knew Julianne wasn’t a biddable wife. Still, serendipity led her to Prudence and not deceit. And, I’ll admit it; I thought Prudence was part of the conspiracy. However, now it appears her life could be in danger. If they find her, will she make it to testifying to Mr. Farmington, the magistrate? I was surprised too that Prudence wasn't involved.
37. What did you think of the conversation Blythe initiated – and his innuendos? Do you think he did so as to figure out if Julianne is enceinte, not necessarily because he thought so? With the other questions, was he just stirring the pot for his own machinations? He is fishing, I think. And of course stirring up trouble.
38. So, more information is told to us: Eric’s gun was never fired. Comments on Patrick’s conversation with Mr. Farmington and Blythe. Well, someone fired that second shot! And it obviously had to be the killer.
@ Pamela#33 – **hee hee**
#36 – Good to see I’m not alone.
#37 – Yeah, I do believe he was on a fishing expedition.
#38 – Yes, if it was Eric, it stands to reason.
I have sort of become accustomed to Julianne’s antics. Peculiarly, she has kind of grown on me.The thing that I’m really coming to like about her is the amount of strength she displays when she admits to her faults and regrets openly to Patrick. That is a really strong point in her favour.
Lisa Kay’s Discussion Questions for Chapter 13 - 17 24. Jonathon Blythe, Patrick’s cousin, too obvious a suspect in the murder? What of his cousin, George Willoughby?
Blythe seemed too rash and hot-blooded to orchestrate a murder in a way so that the blame falls on another.
Willoughby seemed more suspicious to me.
25. Can Lord Avery, Patrick’s father-in-law, and he be friends? Seems he knew of his daughter’s vision.
They both seemed amiable and sensible enough, given the circumstances. They might go along well.
26. Patrick’s father’s death is suspicious?! Comments.
The exact detail of his father’s death is not told. Maybe the suddenness of his death could appear suspicious.
27. Did you like the reunion with Patrick and his sisters, Mary & Eleanor? What stood out to you?
It was a heart-warming reunion. His sisters are quite sweet. Their family is close-knit, which is a really good thing to see. However, their words sure made Patrick go through a guilt-trip for Julianne.
28. Ah! Julianne is off and running after Patrick again, but we do find that the brothers were arguing over her. And that she regrets dancing with Eric. What do you make of the cousins asking her to dance? Anything there?
I don’t think there was anything suspicious about their dance proposals, other than maybe they simply wanted to dance with the toast of the Ton.
29. What of both Patrick and Eric taking the shot at the buck? At the risk Eric took in hitting Patrick? Was it the stag bounding away, or the killer?
I still don’t think it was Patrick who shot him. Eric was standing behind him, so maybe a third person could have come from behind Eric and shot him. The bullet that went past Patrick might have been the one that pierced through Eric’s body!
It had to be the killer bounding away, a stag diminishes the mystery of the murder.
30. Well, Julianne’s a fast learner! What did you think of that love scene in the folly? A cold October night out-of-doors. Not exactly a setting with which I’d think Julianne would allow. She is quite unpredictable. Comments.
Very unpredictable. Wasn’t it just a few chapters earlier that she was worrying over propriety on her wedding night?
31. What did you think of the results of Julianne’ inquiry about the maid, Prudence Smith? Are you glad she at least is asking questions, or will this bring a new set of problems?
I think it is prudent of Julianne to inquire about Prudence Smith( excuse the pun :P). Prudence might pose a danger if she ever comes to justify against Patrick.
32. Thoughts on Julianne’s interact with Aunt Margaret at the breakfast table? Did Julianne again speak without pausing to think, or did the old biddy deserve it? Will she be a formidable adversary?
I loved Julianne in that interaction! It was then that I had a feeling that if things don’t go downhill she might very well become more liked than Caroline to me.
And Aunt Margaret absolutely deserved it. Julianne will be a formidable adversary as well as a loyal friend.
@ Ipshita#24 – I’ll admit that I’m switching back and forth between the two.
#26 – Yes, we need more data.
#30 – Yup.
#31 – ☺
#32 – Points for her being feisty enough to say something to her.
Lisa Kay’s Discussion Questions for Chapter 18 - 20 33. Patrick is chasing Julianne; I think he likes it!
I think he does like it! He surely appears to enjoy the confrontations with her.
34. Is Julianne right about having a dinner party? And right about the correct attire?
I don’t think it’s right to have a dinner party while in full mourning, whatever the reason. I mean, even now, when someone in family dies we do not celebrate any occasion for the whole year of mourning.
35. Uh. WTH? I think Patrick is a little daft about thinking Blythe killing those puppies was just him being “difficult.” You? Or is that just because, in this day and age, we now know what this implies about serial killers? Comments.
If killing of puppies is only being “difficult”, what would Patrick say about killing of men? Being “very difficult” ? I am glad he is an earl and not a judge.
36. Well, we knew Julianne wasn’t a biddable wife. Still, serendipity led her to Prudence and not deceit. And, I’ll admit it; I thought Prudence was part of the conspiracy. However, now it appears her life could be in danger. If they find her, will she make it to testifying to Mr. Farmington, the magistrate?
I didn’t think Prudence to be part of the conspiracy, but I thought she was the one who insisted Patrick was the murderer to Julianne.
I highly doubt Prudence would be agreeing to testify to the magistrate, she seemed too scared to do that.
37. What did you think of the conversation Blythe initiated – and his innuendos? Do you think he did so as to figure out if Julianne is enceinte, not necessarily because he thought so? With the other questions, was he just stirring the pot for his own machinations?
Blythe seems to be stewing now that Patrick has become the Earl. He clearly thinks Patrick is unsuitable not just because of the murder, but because he thinks Patrick is undeserving. I think he wanted to goad Julianne into doing something she’d regret, so that he could further taint Julianne and Patrick’s names among the family.
38. So, more information is told to us: Eric’s gun was never fired. Comments on Patrick’s conversation with Mr. Farmington and Blythe.
I knew it! As I have already mentioned in my theory before that the second shot might have been the one that the murderer shot, the bullet must have pierced through Eric’s body. And since Eric was standing behind Patrick, and the murderer probably right behind Eric, Patrick must have misconstrued that the shot was fired by Eric himself.
@ Ipshita#35 – LOL! Really.
#36 – She is a bit of a mouse.
#37 – Probably.
#38 – Clever you!
Lisa Kay’s Discussion Questions for Chapter 21 - 25
39. Well, Julianne confronted Patrick about his marrying her and the cat’s out of the bag. Comments.
40. So, Lord Avery protested Patrick being thrown in the gaol – for both murders! No question here, just a statement.
41. Is Julianne pregnant or being poisoned? Or both!!
42. Who are you leaning towards as the murderer: George Willoughby or Jonathon Blythe?
Lisa Kay’s Discussion Questions for Chapter 21 - 25 39. Well, Julianne confronted Patrick about his marrying her and the cat’s out of the bag. Comments.
For once I agree with the way she left silently without any argument. Even though it was unlike her character, that was not the proper time for face-offs. Patrick needed her support and she did provide that.
40. So, Lord Avery protested Patrick being thrown in the gaol – for both murders! No question here, just a statement.
I thought Patrick being a lord, would not be kept at the gaol like a common prisoner.
41. Is Julianne pregnant or being poisoned? Or both!!
I think it's poison. She can't be showing signs of pregnancy within 2 weeks of marriage, right?
42. Who are you leaning towards as the murderer: George Willoughby or Jonathon Blythe?
George Willoughby. He is becoming a little too close for comfort to Julianne.
June's Discussion Question for Chap 8-1219. What do you ladies think about their wedding night? Do you think less of Patrick for not confess his ulterior motif for marrying Julianne?
That was a disaster .I don't think less of him for hiding those things from J but I like him less than Julianne . It's very strange to me that you all don't like Julianne. She made a mistake but she has been trying to make amends the best she could. To me at present time in the book J is the better person between these 2.
20. Julianne thought Patrick married her because he had feeling for her. Well he certainly felt lust toward her. Do you think that Julianne naive for not suspecting Patrick actually only use her? Did it endear her to you or irritated you more?
She is naive and inexperience for sure . None of those ,neither endear her nor irritated me more. That conversation in that inn was very important for their relationship ,it had to happen.
21. Whoa, she didn't exactly see what happened yet she told what she "thought" what happened. There is huge difference there.
And that partly because she didn't want to admit her poor eyesight. She obviously felt guilty, but do you think its enough? If you were Patrick, could you forgive her?
Ladies , you are reading a different book . I can't even answer this question.
21. So Patrick and his brother did argue about Julianne that fateful day. What do you think they were arguing about? Do you think it was sick that Patrick wanted her even after the last thing he and his brother did was arguing about her?
I can't think what could have been the reason for that argument.
22. I'm surprised that Patrick just wanted to hushed thing up and not looking for the maid. Didn't he feel tad curious about what the maid saw? (I certainly do). If maybe there was someone who killed his brother and then pinned down the crime on him. What do you think?
Do you think Patrick accidentally shot his brother or there might be a mysterious shooter lurking arround?
I'm sure someone else shoot Eric and somehow that maid was involved!
23. Oh my, that was awkward meet the parent moment. I don't know how Patrick's mother could accept Julianne as daughter in law after ruined her son.
What do you think?
I think his mother's reaction and her forgiveness of J was very good and showing.
I liked that scene with the dogs and everything.
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11. Reverend Ramsey shows up looking for his dog. What do you think of him denying the dog due to his lost of leg? What about his attitude towards Julianne? Was he justified in his judgments against her?
He is the polar opposite of what a preacher should be like. It was expected that such a person as him won’t do a single thing for any altruistic reason.
Firstly, I don’t even know why Julianne is so callous as to shed her bodice in the kitchen, and what is her problem with locking the doors?
The Reverend’s attitude was typical of any sleazy man seeing a half dressed woman.
He is just the sort to enjoy a person’s discomfort, so it was normal that he would think the very worst of a person first.
12. What do you think of Julianne's response to Rev. Ramsey?
Julianne’s habit of throwing caution to the wind again resurfaces. Although I liked the fact that she put the Reverend in his place, her actions seemed rash.
13. Patrick learns his father is truly dead. His father was the only one who believed in his innocence. What do you think of Patrick's mother for not having faith in him? Do you condemn her for her belief?
His mother’s attitude must have been really hurtful for Patrick. I think his mother was still under the shock of losing a son the last time she saw Patrick, so her reaction towards him then can’t be held accountable.
Still, it would have been better if she did try to at least contact him later.
14. Patrick meets with James and David and marriage is mention. Do you think James was conspiring against Patrick? Since Patrick was the only single one of them? Or do you think he truly believed that was the only way to "fix" the situation?
I think James was more concerned with saving Patrick from being convicted.
15. Julianne didn't lock the door. Is she stupid or what? Was she so spoiled and protected at home that she honestly didn't think anything of the unlocked door?
I think Julianne never had to concern herself with such ‘trivial’ things, she probably had servants to open the doors for her. Julianne greatly reminds me of Belinda from Rape Of The Lock, does anyone else find that similarity?
16. Do you blame Patrick for not saying anything and letting Julianne believe she was the only one with the idea for marriage? Do you think he will confess that he has his own reasons for the marriage?
I would have wanted Patrick to confess had Julianne been more sensible, but with her impulsive nature she would have probably done something drastic to cause more trouble.
I rather hope Patrick confesses his reasons for marriage if not now then later. I don't like my heroes being underhanded.
17. What is up with Julianne's resentment over being told what to do?
It’s because she is the sort to order around that she doesn’t take kindly to being told what to do.
18. What do you think of Gemmy and his affection for Julianne?
Gemmy’s really cute. Plus he is the only one freely showing his genuine feelings, since Julianne and Patrick are mostly cautious around each other.