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Why was Hermione sorted into Gryffindor?

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anthea In the Sorting Hat song, it says " or yet in wise old ravenclaw, if you've a ready mind, where those of wit and learning, will always find their kind"

Doesn't that fit Hermione better than Gryffindor? Because towards the end of the book she says how there's more important things than books and cleverness, like bravery ..


AgCl Terry Boot: "How come you're not in Ravenclaw? With brains like yours?"
Hermione: "Well, the Sorting Hat did seriously consider putting me in Ravenclaw during my Sorting, but it decided on Gryffindor in the end."


i think, her situation was sort of like how harry was sorted to gryffindor


Akash I believe that, like in other instances, the Sorting Hat has a precognitive ability, which allows it to have an idea aside from the student's thoughts, therefore he realized that Hermione would have a chance to be brave in a huge way, pushing aside her vast academic knowledge and sorting her into Gryffindor.


Paul Because deep inside her, she has the spirit of chivalry inside her and knows that pure wit isn't the only thing to get you there. As she was saying in Philosopher's Stone... “Books! And cleverness! There are more important things — friendship and bravery..."


Gayathri I mean but she had brains. She did not strike me brave in the first few books, but then she showed bravery.
But I always think she should have been in Ravenclaw because her studiousness showed more than her bravery. ALWAYS!


Lauren Paul wrote: "Because deep inside her, she has the spirit of chivalry inside her and knows that pure wit isn't the only thing to get you there. As she was saying in Philosopher's Stone... “Books! And cleverness!..."

This.
Hermione placed higher value on bravery.
Once she realised that authority wasn't always right she showed her brave side more often. She didn't have Harry's independent streak as early because she wasn't raised with a negative view of authority like Harry.
Harry had to be more self sufficient so we saw him jump him on his own more often at a younger age.
Hermione just bthought things through before acting.


Holly My theory was always that students ended up in the house that they wanted to be in. When Harry first meets Hermione she says, "Do either of you know what house you'll be in? I've been asking around, and I hope I'm in Gryffindor, it sounds by far the best [...]" And in the end, she is sorted into Gryffindor, of course.


Anna Maybe the Sorting Hat saw Hermione being in Gryffindor as an opportunity for her to realize that books and cleverness weren't the most important thing. And she did realize that; maybe she already knew. But she had the chance to act on that bravery that, like so many of you have said, was already within her. And as for bravery that doesn't involve risking one's life, Hermione was pretty brave for being so invested in her studies. There were so many times when she threw herself so far into them that she often risked her sanity. AND through all of this, she was a Muggle-Born; so many looked down on her for that, but she didn't let that stop her from becoming one of the (or even the most) clever witches of her generation. Then on top of that she risked her life for her friends. Multiple times.

All that totes up to some pretty amazing acts of bravery. Smarts may equal Ravenclaw, but Hermione was a Gryffindor through and through.


Edward Lazellari Ravenclawers are smart but weak. Gryffindors are strong and noble. Hermione is strong and noble. She has too strong a character.


Kristen I don't remember the quote, but as Holly said, it's probably because that's where she wanted to be.

I do think that her outstanding characteristic was her bravery, not her intelligence. And I think that was a factor. But the hat sorted them based on where they wanted to be over where they fit in best.
Remember Wormtail wound up in Gryffindor, even though he was a coward. He clearly wanted to be there initially. There's no other reason for him to be there.
Harry could have been placed in Slytherine or possibly Ravenclaw, but he wanted Gryffindor.

And it's not like Hermione wasn't brave till later. She showed bravery pretty early on when she tried to protect Harry when she thought Snape was cursing him in the quiddich game.


Laurel Definitely her bravery and her commitment to her principles.


anthea If Hermione got put in Ravenclaw because she wanted to be there, that must mean that everyone gets put in the house they want, but that can't happen, because the houses won't be balanced, there would be so many people in one house but maybe like 10 in another?

I like the fact that her bravery grew and deep down inside she was brave, but she needed to realise that for herself because she was always so into books and learning. (I think that's the best explanation).


Kristen Annie wrote: "If Hermione got put in Ravenclaw because she wanted to be there, that must mean that everyone gets put in the house they want, but that can't happen, because the houses won't be balanced, there wou..."

Not necessarily. People don't generally want to go where they wouldn't fit in. So the kids who don't have an aptitude for Ravenclaw aren't going to want to go there. Usually.
I think the only house kids might actively try to stay out of would be Slytherine. Or Hufflepuff, if they wanted Slytherine to begin with. But that would balance nicely.

Besides, who ever said they had to be balanced? The school probably started with very few students, so it wouldn't really matter if there were only ten in one particular house in a given year.
And it's not like kids choosing per year affects the totals that much. There's the six years worth of students above them already.


Edward Lazellari Kristen wrote: "I don't remember the quote, but as Holly said, it's probably because that's where she wanted to be.

I do think that her outstanding characteristic was her bravery, not her intelligence. And I thi..."


If that hat puts you where you wanted to be, meaning if you had enough will to make it happen, then that would support Gryffindor as the place likely to recieve people of noble hearts and strong will. essentially, leaders. Anyone wishy washy was going to end up in Ravenclaw or Hufflepuff.


Edward Lazellari Kristen wrote: "Annie wrote: "If Hermione got put in Ravenclaw because she wanted to be there, that must mean that everyone gets put in the house they want, but that can't happen, because the houses won't be balan..."

And let's face it, the ones who want to be dark, arrogant, bossy, and thumb their nose at society all want to go to Slitherin. No Slitherins want to be in a weakling house like Hufflepuff, most don't have the aptitude to be Ravenclaws, and the rest wouldn't be caught dead in Gryffindor for family and personal reasons.


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Eml Hermione is the bravest person in the books. If it weren't for her nothing would have gotten done. She organized all the rebellions; something that was braver for her to do because she understood and valued the rules they were breaking. People also forget that she wiped her parents memories of her to protect them. I can't imagine the amount of courage it would take to do something like that.


Edward Lazellari Kristen wrote: "Annie wrote: "If Hermione got put in Ravenclaw because she wanted to be there, that must mean that everyone gets put in the house they want, but that can't happen, because the houses won't be balan..."

Also, let's remember, the hat put weasly Neville Longbottom in Gryffindor before he ever showed any aptitude for leadership. He was surely a candidate for Hufflepuff in the first book. So either he willed himself in or the hat knew he had a spine in him before he showed it.


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Anna Remember Harry's line at the end of book Seven? That the hat takes the students decision into account? It doesn't mean the hat will always go along with the decision; all that means is the hat will consider it. And furthermore, the hat will usually put students where they are meant to be. I say usually because Wormtail doesn't fit into my image of a Gryffindor. I don't remember it being made clear that he WAS in Gryffindor; I mean, I know he hung around with James, Sirius, and Remus, but that doesn't necessarily mean he had to be a Gryffindor. Look at Luna: she was in Ravenclaw and hung around with Harry, Ron, Hermione, and their group, all Gryffindors.


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Anna My mistake. Pettigrew/Wormtail WAS in Gryffindor. He still doesn't fit. The hat was probably having an off moment when Wormtail was sorted: possibly a headache?


bookworm That's addressed in the order of the phoenix. The sorting hat strongly considered ravenclaw, but in the end decided that gryffindor was the best choice, she explained that.


Blake Murrell She had enough bravery to withstand all of her peers either mocking her, degrading her, or just not caring about her in the first book and a good amount of them still mocking her after the first book. Now this may just be me but i believe that takes at least a small amount of courage.


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Well, from what I read, she sort of chose, like Harry.


Blake Murrell She did but that takes everything into consideration. It excepted Harrys request for Gryffindor because it was already going between Gryfindor and Slytherin. Hermione was most likely the same. The hat between Ravenclaw and Gryfindor and because she wanted to be in Gryfindor she asked it to. The hat would not have put her in there if she was not right for it. She had to display some amount of courage to the hat for it to put her there. If she didnt then I do no think it would not have put her there because it would have not been right. She would not have fit in with the house. Yes it is because of her choice. She asked for it so the hat put her in GRyfindor but by no means is that the only reason.


Tottot1234 Terry Boot: "How come you're not in Ravenclaw? With brains like yours?"
Hermione: "Well, the Sorting Hat did seriously consider putting me in Ravenclaw during my Sorting, but it decided on Gryffindor in the end."

It was just like Harrys case. Some might question why Harry wasn't sorted into Slytherin. As seen in the book countless times Hermione was showed a true Gryfindor. She went with Harry and Ron on incredibly brave adventures. She did go with them to the Whomping Willow as I recall, and transform into Belletrix to get into Griginotts. As Hermione beautifully portrays it's not always whats in the brain the should define your character.


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