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Casceil wrote: "Did we meet this same character, Mr. Ushikawa,in 1Q84?"
We certainly did, though in TWUBC, he's not quite as hideous. BTW, this story takes place in 1984, so I wonder if Ushikawa was working on both cases at the same time....
We certainly did, though in TWUBC, he's not quite as hideous. BTW, this story takes place in 1984, so I wonder if Ushikawa was working on both cases at the same time....

We certainly did, though in TWUBC, he's not quite as hideous. BTW, this story takes place in 1984, so I wonder if Ushikawa w..."
I did wonder about parallels between the two, though I've yet to read 1Q84. I had noticed the date (and also the fact that both books are in three parts). Looks like I've a lot to look forward to in 1Q84.

Meanwhile, May's letters sound like she's in Siberia at a labor camp. There's also the cultural memory of young women at labor-intensive jobs between high school and marriage. And Ushi seems to be holding cards in his hand he is not showing Toru yet; nevertheless he's sweetening the deal with visions of Kumiko. Yes, I do wonder why Dr. Wataya has an interest in the haunted house.
Asma wrote: "I hadn't noticed the similarities in 1984 but will pay closer attention to them during the rest of TWBC & 1Q84.
Meanwhile, May's letters sound like she's in Siberia at a labor camp. There's also ..."
And worse than the labor camps, the "comfort girls" forced to be prostitutes for the various armies.
Re: Dr. Wataya, I imagine his concern was more for how Toru's activities might cause a scandal and threaten Wataya'a political career, rather than being interested in the house itself. But then, If Noboru also had psychic abilities, maybe he was able to sense what Toru was up to with Nutmeg and Cinnamon.
Meanwhile, May's letters sound like she's in Siberia at a labor camp. There's also ..."
And worse than the labor camps, the "comfort girls" forced to be prostitutes for the various armies.
Re: Dr. Wataya, I imagine his concern was more for how Toru's activities might cause a scandal and threaten Wataya'a political career, rather than being interested in the house itself. But then, If Noboru also had psychic abilities, maybe he was able to sense what Toru was up to with Nutmeg and Cinnamon.

Psychic ability characterizes some female characters: Malta's predictions, Creta's mental invasiveness, Nutmeg's healing thoughts. Those powers seem genuine; it's Noboru "psychic abilities" which are not evident so far (p481).
There's another life story, Nutmeg's, which is announced in the story. (Each character is a short story in her/himself and told to the reader.) Coming as it is after the deep mystery surrounding her encounters with Toru puts a new face on her, at least gives some substance to her character, though there might be more about her later in the book.
Asma wrote: " it's Noboru "psychic abilities" which are not evident so far (p481)..."
In Book Two, Ch. 13, "Creta Kano's Story Continued", Creta recounts her first encounter with Noboru in which he "defiled" her. While it is true that he did use his fingers to touch her body, the nature of the touching suggests someone with extra-sensory or psychic ability. I wouldn't want to stretch the definition of "psychic" too far, but based on Creta's story, Noboru has some sort of psychic power.
In Book Two, Ch. 13, "Creta Kano's Story Continued", Creta recounts her first encounter with Noboru in which he "defiled" her. While it is true that he did use his fingers to touch her body, the nature of the touching suggests someone with extra-sensory or psychic ability. I wouldn't want to stretch the definition of "psychic" too far, but based on Creta's story, Noboru has some sort of psychic power.


Also, Murakami tells us how Noboru Wataya's uncle knew Lieutenant Colonel Kanji Ishiwara and that he was inspired by the later's imperial ambitions. Does this story parallel a real-life story or does Murakami insert the uncle in the story simply to connect all the pieces?
Murakami does not treat Japanese imperial history kindly - he is clearly sympathetic to the farmers and Nutmeg and her mother, who had to flee from Manchukuo, and the soldiers who had to fight in pursuit of their officers' ambitions. Is The Wind-up Bird Chronicle, then, a condemnation of Japan?
Tia wrote: "I realize how late in the game this is, but if no one minds, I have a few comments/questions I'd like to add to the thread. Specifically, I'm curious about what others have thought about Murakami's..."
There should be a list of "Works Consulted" at the back of the book. Several are in Japanese, but I'm guessing they cover the history you're asking about.
Do you see the book as a condemnation of Japan? Or a condemnation of certain political and military actions leading up to the defeat in 1945?
There should be a list of "Works Consulted" at the back of the book. Several are in Japanese, but I'm guessing they cover the history you're asking about.
Do you see the book as a condemnation of Japan? Or a condemnation of certain political and military actions leading up to the defeat in 1945?
May sends further dispatches from the factory. A boy, a dream, and a shovel. Celebrity cures and secret scandals. A gumshoe makes an enticing offer and veiled threats. Cinnamon’s world of signs and order. More from May. Toru and Kumiko finally
talktext. Another connection to Manchukuo as the Long Arm reaches out.To avoid spoilers, please restrict your comments to p. 1 – 506
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