A New Earth
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How does Eckhart know that he is free of the 'ego'?

I do not understand one thing. Eckhart said in this book that his 'ego' suddenly vanished when he went through the 'inner transformation'. In another context,he said if someone thinks he is free of ego that would be another identification with the ego.
My question is,if Eckhart thinks his ego is vanished hasn't he just again identified with the ego again?
My question is,if Eckhart thinks his ego is vanished hasn't he just again identified with the ego again?
Well he didnt, in my opinion(This is all just my opinion). But i can cope with your perspective very well cuz i have the same thoughts on people who say "they are free from something", it just tells you, theyr not. When Eckhart suddenly got enlightened he didnt knew what happened to him for about two years, he had no idea that he lost his "ego". Now, the ego is also a rational part of the brain, witch controls us. But the ego itself is not the one who is in meant to be chief, but he is, so thats why we have wars etc. etc. Now to get to your question, if you suddenly lose your ego, you wont know what happened,cuz your rational pat is gone and he is the one that tells you whats going on, but you will feel happy, and also you wont really understand peoples rationality any more, its like you got Tarzan out of jungle in the city, he is a man, happy, wealthy, but he has no idea whats going on in civilization, he has no language, logical thinking etc. So Eckhart Tolle had to build up his ego again, but now he did it in totally right way, in a way that ego does not build you. As he did that, you can assume (and he said it in book) that, when he started writing Power of now, he did use his brain and ego, but in different way, he used it as a tool, and when he says he lost his ego, its not ego that says that, but its him who does it trough ego, not even Eckhart (cuz Thao that can be named is not the Tao). Still, it can be hard to define people with ego who say that they dont have it , but, i think it gets obvious. Best way to say you have no ego is to not say anything at all. And after all if he identified with his ego again , he would start talking how he is strong, smart , beautiful, or he would get nostalgia or he would start to write sad poetry etc etc.
You may be well advised not to ask for whom the bell tolls, as the book recommends, but you might want to ask for whom Tolle recommends against bellowing. Even Jesus raised a ruckus, so I am not sure the citations of the Bible are as friendly or inclusive as we are meant to believe.
What are the motivations of the religions and religious who want to recommend that you dispense with your ego? The problem is that religions of all types have been havens for a variety of miscreants. So be careful out there.
I was disappointed in this book because I thought it would address environmental problems. It does, tangentially.
I think there are advantages to being able to suppress your ego in achieving a variety of spiritual and practical goals including that one, since human desire is infinite or darn near, and therefore exceeds its object most of the time.
This is a helpful idea, but it is also one of the oldest ones and has some problems of its own. So I am not sure it will create a new earth soon. Once again, I find I hope I'm wrong.
So I found that this is one of the books that has most changed my life, even if I'm not sure it's great or even particularly good writing. It provides me with a context for people who pass me on double yellow lines on a snowy day when I am doing the speed limit on a dangerous rural road where someone has recently had a very bad accident.
Notice I didn't say that it helps me understand them. It just provides some context.
But the Christians would point out, probably correctly, that I am trying to remove the mote from someone else's eye in mentioning that.
While I do think that the lack of ego is always relative, I'm not sure getting rid of it would represent a great evolutionary advance, or create a new earth, particularly since our most recent evolutionary advance was acquiring it in the first place.
What are the motivations of the religions and religious who want to recommend that you dispense with your ego? The problem is that religions of all types have been havens for a variety of miscreants. So be careful out there.
I was disappointed in this book because I thought it would address environmental problems. It does, tangentially.
I think there are advantages to being able to suppress your ego in achieving a variety of spiritual and practical goals including that one, since human desire is infinite or darn near, and therefore exceeds its object most of the time.
This is a helpful idea, but it is also one of the oldest ones and has some problems of its own. So I am not sure it will create a new earth soon. Once again, I find I hope I'm wrong.
So I found that this is one of the books that has most changed my life, even if I'm not sure it's great or even particularly good writing. It provides me with a context for people who pass me on double yellow lines on a snowy day when I am doing the speed limit on a dangerous rural road where someone has recently had a very bad accident.
Notice I didn't say that it helps me understand them. It just provides some context.
But the Christians would point out, probably correctly, that I am trying to remove the mote from someone else's eye in mentioning that.
While I do think that the lack of ego is always relative, I'm not sure getting rid of it would represent a great evolutionary advance, or create a new earth, particularly since our most recent evolutionary advance was acquiring it in the first place.
As an inspirational writer myself, I want to make the comment that there is the ego (ID/who you think you are) and a 'big' inflated ego (ex. Hollywood look-at-me ego) 2 totally different things. As long as we are in this plane we will have 'some' ego as it reflects all of our beliefs. As we grow in enlightenment the (wrong) ego diminishes...and real spirit comes through to guide our actions. Hope this helps...
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Nov 20, 2013 07:15PM