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Q.f.D. (Not for the faint of heart)
Davis wrote: "I think it's just one of those things. What are you going to do? Me and you are white males. We are in the singularly most privelaged group of inviduals on the planet. Do you really want to complai..."Yes! Because its bull shit racism that our generation did nothing to deserve!!!
We do deserve it. To this day, the WASP complex keeps the black man down.
NO WE DON'T! There is a fucking black man as president! So instead of being better people and proving to white people that they aren't exactly what we stereotype them to be, they act exactly the way we think they will just to get back at us so they can be racist towards the white man?
GENIUS! Absolute genius! If my sarcasm is blantant enough PLEASE let me know.
That does annoy me. If you don't want so many damn people to be prejudice against you, don't do what they expect. Change it around and make them look like the assholes.
I know! Ugh I did not need to read that post before tryin to go to bed. I knew better too. I knew he was going to say it :P
"So instead of being better people and proving to white people that they aren't exactly what we stereotype them to be, they act exactly the way we think they will just to get back at us so they can be racist towards the white man?"A) Culturally biased SAT's
B) Blacks still located in low-income areas geographically due to Civil War/reconstruction
C) Studies show that white man is 75% more like to get hired than a white man, at the same job, with the same credentials. A certain blind stuided showed that a typical 'African' sounding named would be thrown under the bus for a 'Tom Jones' or 'Bob Smith' every single time.
D) Negative sterotypes persist from white culture, such as that those men you see on BET represent the black race.
E) Talk show hosts such as Rush Limbaugh saying things like 'we should give the guy who shot Dr. King a medal' to 20 million listeners.
F) College acceptance rates for blacks and hispanics remains low, despite affirmitave action.
It is a white mans world, Kyle. When you even out those discrepencies, I will help you fight against white racism.
Relax...go to sleep, don't let him keep you up. :) You have work tomorrow, if you do not sleep, it will be difficult to do that! Sleep Kyle!
Um...when the fuck did E happen, and why have we not smacked him yet?
Yes all those things are happening. So when a a 40 year black man looks at a little 8 year old white boy and feels utter disgust and hatred that is perfectly and utterly justified. Blacks and every other race claims that they want racism gone but they don't realize that that means the racism against whites has to go with it. And until thye are willing to drop their racism why should we drop ours? (legit question by the way? I'm not incenuating anything I want an answer)
E) Talk show hosts such as Rush Limbaugh saying things like 'we should give the guy who shot Dr. King a medal' to 20 million listeners.I keep seeing this and I want to know the context that this was said in.
Well, I would say the answer to that question is pretty easy. We have ruled the world for quite some time. Whites masterminded the holocaust. Whites supported, endorsed and practiced slavery. We pretty much did shitty shit for all of modern history. It was us. We did it. Then, congress says sorry for slavery and it's supposed to be all good? No. Not how it works. When we level the playing field, then we can complain.
Again I'm not saying the apology is supposed to be all well and good. I was just telling LD that they did apologize. You know as a fact just 'oh they did'. Not like the apology meant anything or whatever. And how are we supposed to level the playing field?
Let them enslave us? Go to war with us and try to win texas back? Or maybe the native americans can put all the white people into reservations?
There is no possible way for us pay them back or make it go away. However, WE have not done shit. Our ancestors did.
"Whites supported, endorsed and practiced slavery."
YEah and so did the africans that sold us the slaves. WHOOPS...theres the secret fact about slavery no one's supposed to know.
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Methinks Kyle left. I undrstand what you're saying Davis, but that doesn't make it any less irritating to deal with people.
lol marley's sitting there with her popcorn and just reading all the posts lol :P
Oh, I can't have popcorn. But it is much entertaining. :)
I tried popcorn with chocolate syrup at like four in the morning once. Ahhha.
"YEah and so did the africans that sold us the slaves. WHOOPS...theres the secret fact about slavery no one's supposed to know."As if History nerd Davis didn't know that. However, I'm primarily talking about African-Americans, and I think you are too. Correct?
"And how are we supposed to level the playing field?"
A) Make it less culturally acceptable to be racist. I.e get rid of the 'he's a product of a different time' and get Rush Limbaugh the fuck away from where any human can here him.
B) Finance a black migration, just like we did after reconstrution, except instead of dooming them like we did, we can help them prosper.
C) Balance out SAT/ACT so they aren't biased.
D) Eliminate No Child Left Behind, institute new program that increases funding for inner city schools, and pay for inner city schoolteachers.
E) There are seriously so many, easy, functional ways to do this, I'm not even going to try and explain all of them.
I'm going to sum this whole thing up by saying that John Wilkes Booth was the biggest dumb fuck ever to step foot on the planet. BECAUSE he killed Lincoln who was: 1. the greatest president and 2. the only man who TRULY had a good and decent plan for reconstruction so that the south, whites and blacks alike, would have prospered and this whole mess would not even be happening because blacks would have spread because of the wealth the south would have gained again.
OMG and the south would be like the industrial capital of the world. Sorry yall but us southern folk down here got the most plentiful resources anywhere :P sorry little home town pride coming through :D
"A) Make it less culturally acceptable to be racist. I.e get rid of the 'he's a product of a different time'"Though for the record blacks don't do much to stop this either.
Lincoln certainly would have made things much better than they are now. That man was probably a racist. Also, I fucking hated the South. I could not wait to get the fuck out of there. It was so hot and muggy, I couldn't breathe and I got sick, and you have shitty bookstores. The sweet tea was fire though!
Hahah! "and you have shitty bookstores."
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I hate stereotypical Southern accents. Sorry. They make you sound completely stupid.
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I hate stereotypical Southern accents. Sorry. They make you sound completely stupid.
I do not like heat...that would not be good. I also hate tea, am I the only person that hates tea? I must be... I'm about to go to sleep, even though it is very entertaining watching two high school boys claw at each other...
Lincoln by OUR standards was a racist but for his time was probably decently liberal about it. The south would have better bookstores if Lincoln would have been kept alive because the south would have become industrialized.
Our Sweet tea rocks! :P I love the heat :D
What part of the south were you in?
Yes, I know, I shall wait a bit longer, but I can already hear my parents screaming tomorrow morning....
Birmingham, Alabama. Lincoln was a racist, to an extenst. However, I think we all are. I really truly believe that everyone has their own prejudices. It's just a matter of learning them (your prejudices) and avoiding them.
Davis wrote: "Birmingham, Alabama. Lincoln was a racist, to an extenst. However, I think we all are. I really truly believe that everyone has their own prejudices. It's just a matter of learning them (your preju..."
Definitely.
Definitely.
ICK! Nope, I couldn't ever live in the south...but we knew that.
Marley wrote: "Yes, I know, I shall wait a bit longer, but I can already hear my parents screaming tomorrow morning...."
I hate that.
Ahaha. My parents would say that I spend too much time on the computer and I'd always say "Well it's better than watching tv, right?" Because it is. At least here you can talk to people. Watching the tele? Totally unsocial.
I hate that.
Ahaha. My parents would say that I spend too much time on the computer and I'd always say "Well it's better than watching tv, right?" Because it is. At least here you can talk to people. Watching the tele? Totally unsocial.
I should use that arguement, unfortunantly my mother does not understand the mysterical workings of the internet...
Marley wrote: "I should use that arguement, unfortunantly my mother does not understand the mysterical workings of the internet..."
Hahahahaa.
Hahahahaa.
I have to be up and packed by 10. Fuckz :(
Davis wrote: "Birmingham, Alabama. Lincoln was a racist, to an extenst. However, I think we all are. I really truly believe that everyone has their own prejudices. It's just a matter of learning them (your preju..."When did you live in Birmingham? Its decent there. Huntsville is MUCH nicer though.
Oh yes, we all prejudices. I never had any and then I moved to montgomery and well...they surfaced lol
well I think I'm going to head to bed to sense I have to get up in 6 hours :P night yall
I didn't live there, I went for Forensics nationals.
oooo it isn't that bad. If you come again try to get to Huntsville its much nicer!
Yeah, well, I'm sure you shall be tired 2moro. Have a good roadtrip home. Goodnight Rich Bitch, go to sleep, you have work. I'm out like a light! Love and Peace yall!<3(Yall for you southern-folk)
Kyle wrote: "oooo it isn't that bad. If you come again try to get to Huntsville its much nicer!"It. Was. Awful.
How's the nosebleed Marls? Any better?
None last night. So, that's good. I hate salads! Well, unles they are good, but mother has made crappy salads. Matt? Hi!
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I don't like this guy...probably more than my dislike for Nathan because at least Nathan makes sense sometimes!! This dude just says: 'yes. no. and then yes. again.' its fucking annoying!!!
and then the race card!!!! oooo!!!!!