Debate discussion
Non-debating discussions (SA)
>
Q.f.D. (Not for the faint of heart)
message 6051:
by
Marley
(new)
Aug 07, 2009 07:58PM
They're fun, but I'm using the computer, and so I can't find one on Youtube. And we don't have any DVD ones. So, I'd have to find on TV, which is impossible....
reply
|
flag
I have an idea for Socialized Healthcare. Laura Ingram just said that a blue state should 'test' the program. Which is what your supposed to do anyways. So any blue states willing to do it?
That might not work considering every state is different and all of them would take it and use it differently, don't you think? Different people, different places, different hospitals, etcetera. Just because it works on the people in one state doesn't mean it would necessarily work the same way in another. Am I wrong?
the plan the congress has been debating over like all summer. The socialized healthcare plan. A blue state should test it, to see how it works.
Omg...Obama frigin attacked the people protesting the city hall people...what an ass.
Jayda wrote: "That might not work considering every state is different and all of them would take it and use it differently, don't you think? Different people, different places, different hospitals, etcetera. Ju..."By that logic we shouldn't even have it. Then any blue states that want to do it can do it all across the coutnry and we can see first hand about how obama's plan sucks.
Which is one reason why I have a problem with it being nationalized. Not every state will take it the same way, so blanketing it over everything is a little risky.
going to the hospital and it being free. wow. damn not every state would do that the same....
I think it wouldn't affect each state the same, is what I'm saying, considering that each state is different financially, politically, population-wise, etcetera.
Apparently in this plan you get to keep the healthcare you have but still...which is good because my healthcare is SO much better than this shitty ass plan.
Liz wrote: "going to the hospital and it being free. wow. damn not every state would do that the same.... "lol you think it would be free? your too funny
"I tried to do that, and excuse my language, I love pussy WAY to much. lol""so is this when davis and I post pictures of women in bikinis...or less and start talking about how their breasts and their ass think for themselves?"
"I love breasts...alot.
Breasts>politics."
"Davis and I have found one of those rare occasions where we agree :P"
LMFAO! these few posts have made me cry of laughter so far lol i still have 5 more pages to go haha
Emily wrote: ""I tried to do that, and excuse my language, I love pussy WAY to much. lol""so is this when davis and I post pictures of women in bikinis...or less and start talking about how their breasts and..."
and 3/5 of them are mine :D
Kyle wrote: "Apparently in this plan you get to keep the healthcare you have but still...which is good because my healthcare is SO much better than this shitty ass plan."
I've read that the plan says in black and white on page 16 of the bill that you cannot keep your current insurance.
Kyle wrote: "Liz wrote: "going to the hospital and it being free. wow. damn not every state would do that the same.... "lol you think it would be free? your too funny"
i mean it wouldn't be out of pocket. of course we would be taxed and shit, but they already do that. a little more ain't going to kill us. and (my family) has hundreds of dollars taken out of their paychecks to get health benefits. and if we legalized marijuana it would pay for ALL of the expenses.
Liz wrote: "that has nothing to do with anything."ACtually what Jayda is saying makes sense. The big cities, where most of the uninsured are most likely, are more crowded and so if you have your free healthcare there, its going to be much more crowded. Your care would also probably be less efficient.
And if you were talking about waht I said about my healthcare, it does make a difference. Because people who CAN afford healthcare and DO already pay for it, why would we want the shitty healthcare plan that they are developing?
Liz wrote: "Kyle wrote: "Liz wrote: "going to the hospital and it being free. wow. damn not every state would do that the same.... "lol you think it would be free? your too funny"
i mean it wouldn't be out..."
This is a TRILLION DOLLAR plan...no marijuana legalization would not pay for this.
Jayda wrote: "Kyle wrote: "Apparently in this plan you get to keep the healthcare you have but still...
which is good because my healthcare is SO much better than this shitty ass plan."
I've read that the ..."
well fuck these people. lol and laura ingram just said that same thing :P
Another trillion dollars in debt. How fun, fun, fun...
Kyle wrote: "Liz wrote: "Kyle wrote: "Liz wrote: "going to the hospital and it being free. wow. damn not every state would do that the same.... "lol you think it would be free? your too funny"
i mean it..."
Kyle wrote: "Liz wrote: "that has nothing to do with anything."
ACtually what Jayda is saying makes sense. The big cities, where most of the uninsured are most likely, are more crowded and so if you have you..."
the places with more people have more hospitals so....
and fuck who?
Liz wrote: "Kyle wrote: "Liz wrote: "Kyle wrote: "Liz wrote: "going to the hospital and it being free. wow. damn not every state would do that the same.... "lol you think it would be free? your too funny"
..."
fuck congress lol :P not you liz :D
Kyle wrote: "Liz wrote: "Kyle wrote: "Liz wrote: "Kyle wrote: "Liz wrote: "going to the hospital and it being free. wow. damn not every state would do that the same.... "lol you think it would be free? you..."
ok :)
Hahaha xDBut considering how many are currently uninsured, by what Obama says, half of those people don't go to the hospitals unless needed, am I right? More? Less people than I'm saying it?
So, take the people who are insured now, then the people who aren't and would be under this plan...well...thats very crowded hospital.
dude...congress just spent $500 million on private jets for themselves...WTF?!?! These are the assholes talking about carbon footprint and they go and do this? hypocrite alert!
Kyle wrote: "So, take the people who are insured now, then the people who aren't and would be under this plan...well...thats very crowded hospital. "
well just saying.... i went to my dermatologist about a week ago and i had to wait 45 minutes. and i went to my normal doctor for a checkup the next week(this week) and waited over 1 hr. i don't know what you would call that. the good doctors you have to wait for anyways..
Liz wrote: "Kyle wrote: "So, take the people who are insured now, then the people who aren't and would be under this plan...well...thats very crowded hospital. well just saying.... i went to my dermatolog..."
And it will be even worse...
Plus, I'd say it would depend on where you live and what doctor you go to. My doctor always sees us within 10 minutes of our arrival (since we get appointments ahead of time) and the longest I've waited for a doctor's appointment (that I remember) for myself is 1-2 hours. It depends on the doctor, on the time of the appointment, on how the day has gone for the doctor with other appointments (often time a doctor's time with one patient is dragged long, so the appointments fall behind in time), and where you live.
maybe but at least people wouldn't be dying over simple things that could be fixed if they had seen a doctor and the emergency rooms wouldn't be so full that people who had emergencies can't get care.
"I could make it turn R in like 2 seconds. XDDDD"oh lauren how i love you xD
and i have to agree with kyle that licking things off of people is fun xD
ok i'm done reading my missed posts now :D
Jayda wrote: "Plus, I'd say it would depend on where you live and what doctor you go to. My doctor always sees us within 10 minutes of our arrival (since we get appointments ahead of time) and the longest I've w..."we always have to book about a month ahead and the dermatologist over two months (they are in very high demand)
Liz wrote: "Jayda wrote: "Plus, I'd say it would depend on where you live and what doctor you go to. My doctor always sees us within 10 minutes of our arrival (since we get appointments ahead of time) and the ..."That would be part of why you probably wait so long.
It depends on the doctor, on the time of the appointment (you're more likely to wait with an afternoon-evening appointment than with a morning appointment), and their demand.
Our Neuro-Spine doctor is in high demand, as well, along with our Neurologist, so I know what you mean about booking ahead of time.
i wished it wasn't like this, i wish everybody could see a doctor whenever they wanted. and get the drugs they needed.
Liz wrote: "i wished it wasn't like this, i wish everybody could see a doctor whenever they wanted. and get the drugs they needed. "Thats how socialized healthcare is supposed to be...but...yeah it just don't work...
how do you know that though. it works in many other countries.
Because the plan they have out sucks. If they had a better plan, fine. But the plan sucks and angry people are breaking out at city halls. Obama is being a dumbass by telling them to shut up...For such a great communicator he is TERRIBLE salesman which only shows me that he knows how shitty the plan is for the majority of the american people.
ok.but i do agree i wish the plan was a little better.
oh well :P We don't have to wrorry about for a while. They didn't get it passed before the summer recess ;)
COLONEL OLIVER NORTH IS ON TV!!! I love this guy, total law breaker but he's so awesome!
what yall up to? my laptop is about to die again :(
OMG! THIS ISN'T A FAIR GAME! Damnit, grrr...What up yall?
Marley wrote: "OMG! THIS ISN'T A FAIR GAME! Damnit, grrr...What up yall?"
What isn't a fair game?
what up yall?wat yall up?
have we gone country!!!!????!!!!
I live in alabama Liz :P Truth? - huh marley?
omg...their talking about Carter...I fucking hate jimmy carter...that canal was ours damn it...okay I'm done :P
Liz wrote: "what up yall?wat yall up?
have we gone country!!!!????!!!!"
Right. Well I'm not participating.
Paige wrote: "Hello! Good Evening everyone! :)"Hola Paige.
Books mentioned in this topic
Looking for Alaska (other topics)Candy: Roman (other topics)
Night (other topics)
Dawn (other topics)
I Am the Messenger (other topics)
More...
