A Game of Thrones
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Best character and why?
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Oct 15, 2013 06:37PM
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You haven't said why...
Tyrion, because he is so incredibly smart and and wise, plus he knows how to take someone down and how to protect himself. Tyrion also takes a lot of crap, and he knows how to get the best revenge and how to handle selfish, cunning and all around bad people. He is by far the most intelligent of the characters, plus he's so cute, and so respectful to Sansa. I could trust him with my life, you just can't betray him. Go Tyrion <3
Tyrion, because he is so incredibly smart and and wise, plus he knows how to take someone down and how to protect himself. Tyrion also takes a lot of crap, and he knows how to get the best revenge and how to handle selfish, cunning and all around bad people. He is by far the most intelligent of the characters, plus he's so cute, and so respectful to Sansa. I could trust him with my life, you just can't betray him. Go Tyrion <3
The Hound. He's flawed so he's the most interesting. You get the feeling that deep down he is a good guy because he's managed to keep hold of his humanity despite the fact that no one has ever treated him kindly.
I think he pretends to be a monster because he thinks he'll get hurt again if people think he's weak.
I also like Tyrion (of course) and Catyln because she's a wonderful mother (her stories so sad).
Jamie actually grows on you later (when you getto know him) although he seems awful at first.
I find Jon a bit annoying. He's kinda mopey and he whines a lot.
I think he pretends to be a monster because he thinks he'll get hurt again if people think he's weak.
I also like Tyrion (of course) and Catyln because she's a wonderful mother (her stories so sad).
Jamie actually grows on you later (when you getto know him) although he seems awful at first.
I find Jon a bit annoying. He's kinda mopey and he whines a lot.
The Hound, his unrequited love for Sansa, his "little bird", his journey to return Arya to her mother, shows his hidden wounded heart, so sad, hope he finds peace at some point.
Favorites of most readers, myself included, are Tyrion, Arya, and Daenerys, yet I am equally fascinated by Asha and her fight to rule her misogynist culture, Sansa's coming of age and the holy grail journey of the children, led by the crippled Bran Stark. Ygritte has a special place too, so tragic Jon did not appreciate her.
The story line of Khaleesi can't be beat. What a strong, awesome female character who turns the tables at every glitch!
But there are a number of outstanding characters.
Oh yeah, and let's not forget Sam Tarly! What an unsung hero (season 3 no spoilers)
But there are a number of outstanding characters.
Oh yeah, and let's not forget Sam Tarly! What an unsung hero (season 3 no spoilers)
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Mar 08, 2014 04:00PM
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Lara wrote: "I like Jon best"
I love Dayneres!!!!!
She's beautiful, strong and protective of people who have been mistreated. I love her!!!!
I love Dayneres!!!!!
She's beautiful, strong and protective of people who have been mistreated. I love her!!!!
Ramsey Snow.
I have a fondness for sociopaths, especially if they manipulate everyone around them.
Petyr Baelish is also an interesting and probably the most important character in the series. He manipulates everything and everyone to get on top...
I have a fondness for sociopaths, especially if they manipulate everyone around them.
Petyr Baelish is also an interesting and probably the most important character in the series. He manipulates everything and everyone to get on top...
Jaime Lannister.
At the beginning he seemed ignorant and ambitious jerk, spoiled guy, deserved to be hated and feared.
He met Brianne and I saw that Kingslayer had reasons for his crime, explanations for his actions (childish though), but he was neglected and hated by almost everyone. Except Cercei, who seemed to be the only person Jaime loved.
No wonder Jaime was doing all he could not to lose his only supporter, second half, only one who needed him.
But Brienne... Brienne appeared when Jaime Lannister was lost and defeated, she became tough hand for spoiled lad, appeared to be more stubborn than Jaime himself, who taught honor to Kingslayer.
So why I like Jaime Lannister most of all? Because he acknowledged that he was defeated by woman! he let all his old views about life be broken and learned pride and honor from woman; regretted mistakes of the past.
This was a metamorphosis of great degree, very difficult, painful and unexpected.
Cercei the Lioness or Brienne the beauty? Could you imagine Jaime Choosing the last one? :P
And here comes another point: Brienne betrays Kingslayer. He trusted her, looked up to her like example of honor, guide in life, basement for new Jaime... what will happen now? He doesn't look such a strong person for me.
At the beginning he seemed ignorant and ambitious jerk, spoiled guy, deserved to be hated and feared.
He met Brianne and I saw that Kingslayer had reasons for his crime, explanations for his actions (childish though), but he was neglected and hated by almost everyone. Except Cercei, who seemed to be the only person Jaime loved.
No wonder Jaime was doing all he could not to lose his only supporter, second half, only one who needed him.
But Brienne... Brienne appeared when Jaime Lannister was lost and defeated, she became tough hand for spoiled lad, appeared to be more stubborn than Jaime himself, who taught honor to Kingslayer.
So why I like Jaime Lannister most of all? Because he acknowledged that he was defeated by woman! he let all his old views about life be broken and learned pride and honor from woman; regretted mistakes of the past.
This was a metamorphosis of great degree, very difficult, painful and unexpected.
Cercei the Lioness or Brienne the beauty? Could you imagine Jaime Choosing the last one? :P
And here comes another point: Brienne betrays Kingslayer. He trusted her, looked up to her like example of honor, guide in life, basement for new Jaime... what will happen now? He doesn't look such a strong person for me.
I think the Besty characters are tyrion and Brienne. Tyrion is smart and knows how the world is and works. Brienne can be a little loyal beyond what reason dictates but it takes perseverence to keep your illusions in the face of facts
Jon Snow is a complex character. I guess he would be my favorite because he is honorable,knows how to adapt to survive and is a born leader even if he is a bastard.
I'm fond of Varys -- he's deceptive and cunning. I feel like he is the only one in the entire series who has any sense of control over the events. I know he isn't a major character, but he has his hand in everything.
Stannis is a great character for me. Strong, willed, and unrelenting.
Jamie, I didn't really like him until book three, but he is endearing and does have some sense of honor.
Stannis is a great character for me. Strong, willed, and unrelenting.
Jamie, I didn't really like him until book three, but he is endearing and does have some sense of honor.
Tyrion Lannister
He won my heart from the moment he said
"I learned long ago that it is considered rude to vomit on your brother" Game of Thrones
He won my heart from the moment he said
"I learned long ago that it is considered rude to vomit on your brother" Game of Thrones
Joffery is definitely one of my favourite characters. Without him, the story would not be interesting.
I see Tyrione as the hero of the story and would like to see him succeed.
The dragons are cool and keep things interesting.
I see Tyrione as the hero of the story and would like to see him succeed.
The dragons are cool and keep things interesting.
There are just so many good characters in this that it's nigh on impossible to choose, however, as I've started, I'll now finish but I'm afraid I've had to cheat and choose just three - even whittling it down to that number took some doing but … (and I stress, this is in no particular order)
***SPOILERS LIKELY***
Brienne of Tarth
There are many reasons why this character is stand-out for me, but I'll try to bring it down to just a few. For a start, there is the (what is to me) profoundly well-drawn link between the physical and the psychological – they are at one and the same time the opposite and yet also the cause of one another.
As a fighter, a professional, she is exceptionally talented – physically – but (unlike Jaime Lannister) she repeatedly fails to understand the importance of the social world and so her talents are abused, overlooked, ignored etc. etc. again and again.
Her moral rectitude is of the same order. To be blunt, like many unattractive and (possibly consequently) socially inept people in the real world, she seems determined to achieve success and prominence through perfection and in this, again, she also fails. She fails because no one will ever appreciate what she can do, however well she can do it, without first respecting who she is.
Her quest for Sansa Stark is a fascinating, almost 'documentary film', interpretation of Don Quixote – she is a fool on a fool's errand which involves here following one fool an being followed by yet another. The gritty realism of the landscapes that she passes through, the sordidness and gore of the violent encounters she has on that 'quest' are in stark contrast to the dream-like purity of her moral values and the beauty of the sword Jaime has given her to conduct it with.
The glimpses of self-awareness as she increasingly begins to think of her doting father, alone, far away with no other children than Brienne, and her in the middle of blasted heath in filthy weather on a mission as suicidal as it is pointless …
And, with no word of a lie here, when the undead/half-dead (whatever she is) embodiment of Catelyn Stark sentences her to death by hanging iI was left unable to sleep the whole night because of the sheer scale of the injustice of that judgement.
Stannis Baratheon
For much of the series, Stannis seemed to be a secondary player but as the novels progress he becomes increasingly fascinating. In his own way, he seems to be a dark shadow of Brienne of Tarth (actually, now I think about it, almost every character in this fantasy novel is a fantasist of one sort or another – just think of Theon Greyjoy for example, but Robb Stark and Jon Snow are not so far off either).
But his Napoleonic-1812 style march through the worst winter to hit the world of Game of Thrones in a millennia is fascinating – it's as if the same bleak moral universe that has his mind frozen, shut down and sealed off from all exigency has somehow leaked out of him since he passed beyond the Wall and into the real world of the novel.
Again, like Brienne, this is a character who is not without talent, even exceptional talent, but who fails completely to understand the importance of the social world in his reality.
Also like Brienne, he makes constant reference to the 'Law' as the justification for all his actions and does so in an apparent attempt (unconscious or otherwise) to make up for his failure to engage people in the way that Robert, his brother, so clearly did with such great alacrity.
The Prince Doran (Martell)
Although he obviously bears a number of similarities to both Lord Varis and Littlefinger (both of whom are also great characters), there is something about this relatively minor character that I find completely compelling.
His nigh on infinite patience, so wonderfully illustrated through the imprisonment of his daughter, Arianne, after her failed attempt to spirit away Myrcella Lannister, shows him to be a truly powerful character. In fact, the strength of the plotting in the last two books of the series (so far) reveals just how ephemeral the trials and tribulations of the key families, the Starks, the Lannisters and the Greyjoys, really are. In the grander scheme of things, their plans are like those of mice to men.
So in Prince Doran, we have a figure that is a master of the Game of Thrones, one who fully understands the importance of playing the long game over any short term gains.
Contrast his masterly self-control with that of the youthful Robb Stark for example, whose brief whim to marry out of love leads not only to his own death but effectively to the destruction of a millennia-old lineage of Starks and the rebellion against Lannister corruption – incidentally, his youth is not the only source of his impetuousness. The fact that he is killed by the aged Walder Frey is proof that thoughtless and impulsive decisions are as much the province of the old as of the young – the last book(s) clearly start to hint that the betrayal of House Stark at the Red Wedding will be the complete and utter ruin of the Frey and his massive brood, either before or after the old man finally dies. Their name and their honour is mud. Anyone who destroys them now is unlikely to be challenged for doing so. In other words, Frey's wounded pride is as ridiculous as Robb Stark's passionate romance.
Against all this is the careful and calculated approach of the Cyvasse (Chess) player, Prince Doran Martell. This bloated old man with his crippling gout is truly a force to be reckoned with – or he will be once (if ?!?!!) Martin manages to conclude the series.
***SPOILERS LIKELY***
Brienne of Tarth
There are many reasons why this character is stand-out for me, but I'll try to bring it down to just a few. For a start, there is the (what is to me) profoundly well-drawn link between the physical and the psychological – they are at one and the same time the opposite and yet also the cause of one another.
As a fighter, a professional, she is exceptionally talented – physically – but (unlike Jaime Lannister) she repeatedly fails to understand the importance of the social world and so her talents are abused, overlooked, ignored etc. etc. again and again.
Her moral rectitude is of the same order. To be blunt, like many unattractive and (possibly consequently) socially inept people in the real world, she seems determined to achieve success and prominence through perfection and in this, again, she also fails. She fails because no one will ever appreciate what she can do, however well she can do it, without first respecting who she is.
Her quest for Sansa Stark is a fascinating, almost 'documentary film', interpretation of Don Quixote – she is a fool on a fool's errand which involves here following one fool an being followed by yet another. The gritty realism of the landscapes that she passes through, the sordidness and gore of the violent encounters she has on that 'quest' are in stark contrast to the dream-like purity of her moral values and the beauty of the sword Jaime has given her to conduct it with.
The glimpses of self-awareness as she increasingly begins to think of her doting father, alone, far away with no other children than Brienne, and her in the middle of blasted heath in filthy weather on a mission as suicidal as it is pointless …
And, with no word of a lie here, when the undead/half-dead (whatever she is) embodiment of Catelyn Stark sentences her to death by hanging iI was left unable to sleep the whole night because of the sheer scale of the injustice of that judgement.
Stannis Baratheon
For much of the series, Stannis seemed to be a secondary player but as the novels progress he becomes increasingly fascinating. In his own way, he seems to be a dark shadow of Brienne of Tarth (actually, now I think about it, almost every character in this fantasy novel is a fantasist of one sort or another – just think of Theon Greyjoy for example, but Robb Stark and Jon Snow are not so far off either).
But his Napoleonic-1812 style march through the worst winter to hit the world of Game of Thrones in a millennia is fascinating – it's as if the same bleak moral universe that has his mind frozen, shut down and sealed off from all exigency has somehow leaked out of him since he passed beyond the Wall and into the real world of the novel.
Again, like Brienne, this is a character who is not without talent, even exceptional talent, but who fails completely to understand the importance of the social world in his reality.
Also like Brienne, he makes constant reference to the 'Law' as the justification for all his actions and does so in an apparent attempt (unconscious or otherwise) to make up for his failure to engage people in the way that Robert, his brother, so clearly did with such great alacrity.
The Prince Doran (Martell)
Although he obviously bears a number of similarities to both Lord Varis and Littlefinger (both of whom are also great characters), there is something about this relatively minor character that I find completely compelling.
His nigh on infinite patience, so wonderfully illustrated through the imprisonment of his daughter, Arianne, after her failed attempt to spirit away Myrcella Lannister, shows him to be a truly powerful character. In fact, the strength of the plotting in the last two books of the series (so far) reveals just how ephemeral the trials and tribulations of the key families, the Starks, the Lannisters and the Greyjoys, really are. In the grander scheme of things, their plans are like those of mice to men.
So in Prince Doran, we have a figure that is a master of the Game of Thrones, one who fully understands the importance of playing the long game over any short term gains.
Contrast his masterly self-control with that of the youthful Robb Stark for example, whose brief whim to marry out of love leads not only to his own death but effectively to the destruction of a millennia-old lineage of Starks and the rebellion against Lannister corruption – incidentally, his youth is not the only source of his impetuousness. The fact that he is killed by the aged Walder Frey is proof that thoughtless and impulsive decisions are as much the province of the old as of the young – the last book(s) clearly start to hint that the betrayal of House Stark at the Red Wedding will be the complete and utter ruin of the Frey and his massive brood, either before or after the old man finally dies. Their name and their honour is mud. Anyone who destroys them now is unlikely to be challenged for doing so. In other words, Frey's wounded pride is as ridiculous as Robb Stark's passionate romance.
Against all this is the careful and calculated approach of the Cyvasse (Chess) player, Prince Doran Martell. This bloated old man with his crippling gout is truly a force to be reckoned with – or he will be once (if ?!?!!) Martin manages to conclude the series.
Everyone loves Tyrion, Arya, and Daeneris, so I am going to give love to a less known character. My vote goes for Asha Greyjoy. She has Tyrion's wit, strategy, and hilarious insults combined with Arya's femme fatale badassery. She unfortunately gets very little time in the books and even less in the show, where her name was changed to Yara for some unknown reason.
i would agree with the others and name Tyrion, not only because he is clever, witty and hilarious, but also because he knows how to play the game. I know if given the chance he wouldn't want the iron throne but he will definitely play a huge role before its all said and done.
Tyrion L. Tyrion is my favorite character and quite remarkably fleshed out by GRRM. While most of the other characters are standard fantasy cutouts (standard fantasy, hah!), Ty is characterized as a dwarf first. To me, he was the least power-hungry, despotic and self-aggrandizing adult male in the book. He is well-read, grounded, kind to those he thinks deserve his kindness, and generally trying to make his way in a world where his father wishes he was never born, yet his family name is his biggest strength. I have only finished the first book, but his friendship with Jon Snow and Bran felt sincere and heartfelt. He openly admits to and indulges in his follies, unlike Ned Start, the otherwise stalwart hero who fails to be a pragmatist in all things. Finally, Tyrion has a lot of raw courage. He takes calculated risks, knowing well that some of them entail a high chance of failure. When he comes out on top, he admits freely that it was his fortune that saved him, not his folly. Tyrion is a kindred spirit to Sand dan Glokta from Joe Abercrombie's First Law series. Men who were far from perfect, not quite good enough to win it all but never ready to give it up either.
Tyrion - because he's smart and funny. He knows how to handle and look after himself as mentioned by Em.
Post edited: Was in a rush when initially posted.
Do you mean out of the whole series or just in the first book?
I am nearly done with reading book two and have not yet read all of the books, so I cannot say who I think is the best character as a whole though I can say who I don't like with all certainly. At least at the point I am currently at in the story. But I'll refrain from doing so since this is best character and not most despicable character. :)
I agree that Tirion is one of the top best characters. Like how he has treated Sansa.
And speaking of Sansa that reminds me that I also think The Hound is another great character.
The other characters that I think are contenders for best character (at least on my list) are Arya and Osha.
Oh, almost forgot Jaqen H'ghar.
Do you mean out of the whole series or just in the first book?
I am nearly done with reading book two and have not yet read all of the books, so I cannot say who I think is the best character as a whole though I can say who I don't like with all certainly. At least at the point I am currently at in the story. But I'll refrain from doing so since this is best character and not most despicable character. :)
I agree that Tirion is one of the top best characters. Like how he has treated Sansa.
And speaking of Sansa that reminds me that I also think The Hound is another great character.
The other characters that I think are contenders for best character (at least on my list) are Arya and Osha.
Oh, almost forgot Jaqen H'ghar.
I do like Jon, I always enjoy a character that rises above. Tyrion, Em stated it very well. I also like Aria, I just admire her fight.
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