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Stately Homicide (Benjamin Jurnet, #3)
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SOLVED: Adult Fiction > SOLVED. Mystery with Unknowing Incest Relationship; a teenage or early twenties boy and girl, are in love. In the course of the investigation of the murder victim, they learn that they either are siblings or half siblings [s]

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message 1: by Bargle (last edited Feb 22, 2025 08:41PM) (new) - added it

Bargle | 1760 comments It's a mystery set in GB, part of a series. The lead detective character isn't likeable, a deliberate choice of the author, I think.

In this book, two of the characters, a teenage or early twenties boy and girl, are in love. In the course of the investigation of the murder victim, they learn that they either are siblings or half siblings. The girl becomes very depressed and hangs herself, something which doesn't trouble the detective very much.

I read 2 or 3 books in the series before I realized the lead detective was unlikeable on purpose.

ETA: Odd bit I've remembered. A female character says to him one time, "You're in love with me, aren't you?" or something similar. He wasn't, she was mistaken.

ETA: The lovers were half brother and sister. Their father was something of a local Lothario and I think he was the murder victim in the story.

ETA: I think the detective was in his 30s or early 40s.

ETA: The couple don't find out they are half siblings until 2/3s or more into the book.


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Bargle | 1760 comments Forgot to mention, I read in the 80s or 90s. It was set in contemporary times.


message 3: by Lobstergirl, au gratin (new)

Lobstergirl | 44924 comments Mod
Lovejoy was very unlikeable, for me. I only read one in the series.

https://www.goodreads.com/series/5110...


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Bargle | 1760 comments Nope, not Lovejoy. In the one I'm looking for, the character was a police detective, not an amateur. Thanks for trying.

Odd bit I've remembered. A female character says to him one time, "You're in love with me, aren't you?" or something similar. He wasn't, she was mistaken.


message 5: by M— (last edited Nov 14, 2013 11:34AM) (new)

M— | 379 comments Reminds me of the plot of Grave Sight (first in series), where teen lovers unknowingly commit incest due to their parents' infidelity and then die, but it published well outside of your time frame.

ETA: Remember Me fits with your time frame better, has teen lovers who are later discovered to be half-siblings, and a murder victim who was thought to have committed suicide. The detective was written as a disreputable drunk, but the book revealed he had a reason for that -- and I don't know if he shows up in the later books of the series.


message 7: by Bargle (last edited Nov 15, 2013 09:55AM) (new) - added it

Bargle | 1760 comments M, sorry, but neither is it. There were no paranormal or supernatural elements, just a straightforward mystery.

Feliks, not that one either. Mine was set in the UK, not U.S.

Thanks to both of you for for trying, though. :-)


message 8: by Lobstergirl, au gratin (new)

Lobstergirl | 44924 comments Mod
What year was the book published, or what years were the series published? If you don't know, what year(s) did you read it or them?

Does the detective work for Scotland Yard or some other police body? Was the setting urban or rural?


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Bargle | 1760 comments As I said back in message #2, I read it in the 80s or 90s.

Setting was urban, I think, but not London. I don't recall if he was on loan from Scotland Yard or was from the local force.


message 10: by M— (last edited Nov 18, 2013 12:28PM) (new)

M— | 379 comments A Great Deliverance? First novel of the Inspector Lynley series, contemporary UK setting. I seem to remember one of the books involving secret illegitimate children? Lynley was written as stuffy, and I (for one) didn't like him.

ETA for title correction. I'm really not up my mysteries...


message 11: by Bargle (last edited Mar 19, 2024 03:30AM) (new) - added it

Bargle | 1760 comments Inspector Lynley? Possibly, M. I've got the first book coming from the library. We'll see.


message 12: by Lobstergirl, au gratin (new)

Lobstergirl | 44924 comments Mod
OMG, I LOVE Inspector Lynley. Absolutely adore him. I've read every single Lynley book. That particular plot doesn't ring a bell, but I forget 90% of the plots...

I wouldn't call him unlikeable, just very direct. Okay, yes, he did leave his best friend crippled in an auto accident, but he feels the occasional twinge of guilt about it. And Simon forgave him.


message 13: by Bargle (last edited Nov 25, 2013 05:06PM) (new) - added it

Bargle | 1760 comments Well, I got "A Great Deliverance" and it isn't the book. It has an incest relationship, but not the one I'm recalling.

I have remembered a little more detail. The lovers were half brother and sister. Their father was something of a local Lothario and I think he was the murder victim in the story.

I did look at some synopses of other books in the series, but nothing rang a bell.

Thanks for suggestion anyway, M. :)


message 14: by M— (new)

M— | 379 comments Sorry it wasn't the one you were looking for. Hope you enjoyed the read anyway!


message 15: by Lobstergirl, au gratin (new)

Lobstergirl | 44924 comments Mod
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category...

Maybe one of the detectives on the list will strike your memory.


message 16: by Lobstergirl, au gratin (last edited Mar 01, 2014 05:12PM) (new)

Lobstergirl | 44924 comments Mod
Is it Inspector Morse? Female characters were constantly hot for him, and he was always hot for the chicks, so one of them thinking the other one was in love with them and being mistaken is entirely possible.

I don't specifically remember an incest plot but I haven't read all the Morse books. Set in Oxford. Colin Dexter.


message 17: by Brenda (new)

Brenda | 86 comments One of the Peter Lovesey Peter Diamond mysteries, maybe? I've only read one or two of them, so not sure if any of them fit your plot. Diamond is pretty unlikeable in the ones I've read.


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Bargle | 1760 comments Not Inspector Morse or Peter Diamond, though I recently acquired the first Diamond book and will be reading it soon.

Lobstergirl, I'm checking names on that list. but nothing pops out at me.

Thanks, you two.


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Bargle | 1760 comments Another minor detail. I think the detective was in his 30s or early 40s.


message 20: by Lauren (new)

Lauren (laurenjberman) Sounds like something by Ruth Rendell - the Inspector Wexford series perhaps.

Perhaps A Guilty Thing Surprised (Inspector Wexford, #5) by Ruth Rendell or An Unkindness of Ravens (Inspector Wexford, #13) by Ruth Rendell


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Bargle | 1760 comments Well, I went through all the detectives on the list, including Inspector Wexford, and no luck.

I'm pretty sure the detective I'm looking for was single. He may have had a girlfriend, but wasn't married, at least not in the ones I read.

Thanks for trying, Lobstergirl and Lauren.


message 22: by Mir (new)

Mir | 805 comments I vaguely remember a British (author or setting, not sure) mystery where it turned out that (view spoiler). But that was basically the end resolution. There might have been some art or travel element -- I feel like Greece or the Etruscans came up in some context.


message 23: by Bargle (last edited Mar 03, 2014 03:44PM) (new) - added it

Bargle | 1760 comments No, that's a different book. In the one I'm trying to identify the couple didn't find out they were half siblings until near the end and the girl commited suicide shortly thereafter.

Thanks for trying , though. You never know what will trigger a memory.


message 24: by Hilarion (new)

Hilarion | 3 comments Was the author perhaps John Lawton (Inspector Troy), or Charles Todd (Inspector Rutledge)? The theme seems applicable.


message 25: by Bargle (last edited Mar 04, 2014 03:37AM) (new) - added it

Bargle | 1760 comments No, not Inspector Rutledge. The Inspector Troy stories are set too far in the past. The one I'm looking for was set in times contemporary to when it was published. 80s or early 90s.

Thanks for trying.


message 26: by Savannah (new)

Savannah Herriman | 4 comments Flowers in the attic by V.C Andrews maybe, but not really a mystery


message 27: by Andria (last edited Mar 05, 2014 11:17AM) (new)

Andria (airdna) | 2499 comments Mod
The Killings At Badger's Drift came up when I searched mysteries, England, & incest.

And it's most definitely NOT Flowers in the Attic.


message 28: by Brenda (new)

Brenda | 86 comments I'm not the OP, but the details of The Killings At Badger's Drift don't match. The couple knows their relationship is incest from the start, and the two detectives are both married. The sidekick Troy is very unlikeable, however.


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Bargle | 1760 comments Nope, not any of those. Thanks for trying, everyone.


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Bargle | 1760 comments Suggested on another board and eliminated. The Inspector Gently stories by Alan Hunter.


message 31: by Bargle (last edited Mar 24, 2014 05:14PM) (new) - added it

Bargle | 1760 comments Suggested over at Librarything by JoLynnsbooks, the Inspector Jurnet stories by S. T. Haymon. I found mention of a bit of story element I think I recognize. Jurnet is studying to convert to Judaism so his girlfriend will marry him. The first book, Death and the Pregnant Virgin doesn't match, but a description I found for the 3rd book in the series, Stately Homicide does have an incest element. My local library system doesn't have that one anymore, so I've got it coming via interlibray loan. That usually takes a few weeks.


message 32: by Kate (new)

Kate Farrell | 4040 comments Mod
We look forward to knowing the answer!


message 33: by Bargle (new) - added it

Bargle | 1760 comments Yay! JoLynn got it. It was Stately Homicide, the 3rd Jurnet book. Thanks to everyone that tried to help. :-)


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