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message 1: by Jon (new)

Jon Etheredge (jonetheredge) | 495 comments I always thought my collection of short stories, titled "Reaching Deep", missed the mark. No offense to my evangelistic brethren, but it sort of reminds of me a theological tract dropped off by a well-intentioned biker who stopped by my hospital room after my first hip replacement and demanded to pray over me. I said something snippy about the Number of the Beast and he handed me a short brochure titled "Heaven or Hell?", with Hell circled and underlined in red ink.

My wife told me that she wouldn't have bothered reading the book at all had I not barricaded her in the bathroom and read it to her page-by-page. She said it sounded like something a stuffy social worker would make you read.

It's not, though. In fact, "Reaching Deep" is a collection of action-adventure stories, originally titled "A Buncha Stories to Read", then "Four Big Ones", and finally "In Deep Sh*t". I think you can see the progression, there.

My problem is, "RD" is now in print and is suffering the humiliation of a free Kindle day where the number of readers downloading the book couldn't staff an all-night enema store.

What do I do? Rename it? Kill it off and republish under a different ISBN?

(wife came in room with beer. she sez 'download that book NOW'...it's good...'specially Avalon Fires)


message 2: by Jenny (new)

Jenny Byrne | 29 comments Jon, in a world of "Whore-dashians" (aka Kimy) who say such nonsence on TV: "The worst part of my day is what nail polish to wear." Or Casey Anothny's endless BS of "Oh Kaley drowned." (Ya right.)We also live in a world, where we have homless WW2 vets. I thank these brave men, for if not for them.... Each and all of us would bee speaking "German".

There is nothing wrong with that title. Nothing at all. I think that title is amazing. Stand by your work. Be proud. hey at least you're trying to do something wonderful, You're not a mindless nothing, with ten tons of make up on her face, insulting real people with REAL problems. Be great. Be awesome. Take a moment. Don't Panic. That often leads 2 trouble.
Hope it helps. Lilliana Cross


message 3: by Jenny (new)

Jenny Byrne | 29 comments May I add; In the imortal words of "Bill", "Ted", "Bevis" and "Butt-Head" "DUUUUDE" Just relax, dear. Hey you could always be worring about what nail polish 2 wear. I swear I'll laugh at that sweet quote all the rest of my days. Being fired from my last job on 12-24-06. Trust me, THAT's a night mare. Just thought you could have used a laugh. Lilliana Cross


message 4: by Jenny (new)

Jenny Byrne | 29 comments My beloved rel-life prince "Joseph" is the ONLY one i've been w/. EVER. He inspired me to write. That is your world. You can make ANYTHING happen. If some nothing person makes fun of you. Smile. My mother has done this countless times, the meaner that "thing" got the sweeter my mom got. NOTHING makes a usless bully feel stupid, than a person.... Standing by their word.


message 5: by Jenny (new)

Jenny Byrne | 29 comments Have fun. Try not to worry. Create. Go deep into your imagination. Have fun. make it so insane, that it is so un-publish-able. That they BEG you to sell it to them. That sound like fun. write a sentance so profound you even have to take a step back and go "WOOOOW". The written word is the most powerful creation in all of mankind. Tonight create the next great story. I know I already have 5 to 6. Take care I hope I helped. LC


message 6: by Jon (new)

Jon Etheredge (jonetheredge) | 495 comments LC, you're like a shot of Xanax! I hadn't heard the name "Angier" since my Carolina days.

My internal conflict is lessened somewhat by the knowledge that it is, after all, only the title of the book that bothers me; and that the only place the title appears is...oh, crap.

I can always host a book burning/weenie roast!

Or sell the book inside-out. That way they don't hit the title until they're already halfway through! Mwa-ha!


message 7: by Judy (new)

Judy Goodwin | 187 comments You could name the collection after the most exciting title you have inside it. "End of the World (and other short stories)" for example.

Or start brainstorming. Jot down a dozen titles and see if any of them grab you.


message 8: by Marlana (new)

Marlana Williams (marlanawilliams) Jon wrote: "I always thought my collection of short stories, titled "Reaching Deep", missed the mark. No offense to my evangelistic brethren, but it sort of reminds of me a theological tract dropped off by a w..."

What's wrong with it? Reaching Deep. I'm trying to figure out what's to hate.


message 9: by Jon (new)

Jon Etheredge (jonetheredge) | 495 comments Holly wrote: "What's wrong with it?..."

I think it sounds like a self-improvement brochure (or an operator's manual for a septic line bore snake).


message 10: by Jon (new)

Jon Etheredge (jonetheredge) | 495 comments Judy wrote: "You could name the collection after the most exciting title you have inside it. "End of the World (and other short stories)" for example.

Or start brainstorming. Jot down a dozen titles and see if..."


That was my original idea. "Avalon Fires and other stories", but that sounded too much like a druid day camp (no offense to druids... or day-campers). So I tried "Fedoro's Jump and other stories", but everybody expected a story about hats (no offense to haberdashers or people with chronic mercury poisoning). Then I tried "Shooter TWO-TWO-FIVE and other stories", but the title made anti-gunners break out in hives, while the story itself had nothing to do with guns (which made NRA life members livid... no offense to owners of Colts, Smiths, Rugers, etc., etc.). That left "Coward's Song and other stories", but that infuriated timid music lovers (and I don't care if they're offended or not...I kick sand in their figurative faces).

Maybe I'll just leave it alone. I'm not so unhappy that a beer couldn't put a smile on my face.


message 11: by Marlana (new)

Marlana Williams (marlanawilliams) "I'm not so unhappy that a beer couldn't put a smile on my face" by Jon Etheredge.

Now that, I'd read.


message 12: by Jenny (new)

Jenny Byrne | 29 comments Guys... Lilliana Cross here. Think about this you could be Kimmy whore-dashian, that complains about what nail polish to wear. Or Lindsey Whore-hane who flipped off a fed judge. Or my Favorite; Cassey Anthony.... "ya dear your as guilty as sin".

Guys I know that it is hard to sell a book. Dig deep let the world feeeel your grief. We are (well some are not) feeling this pain.
Write something so powerul, so personal, so deep, when your readers read your work.... They will know how you felt. I've been sobbing all day.


message 13: by Jenny (new)

Jenny Byrne | 29 comments Sobbing all day. My beloved Joey is still in the North east. I had to move to the south. Because some EVIL witch FIRED ME on 12-24-06! I never ever got another job again. I had to leave my heart-shattered "baby bear" and leave NY. Tomorrow is my 43rd birthday. Joey is the ONLY one I've been with. He is my every thing. I feel such pain with out him here. We talk every few days. But this pain led me to my next several books.


message 14: by Jenny (new)

Jenny Byrne | 29 comments Lilliana Cross here again. Try writing down just how you are feeling. just write how you feel. Make it so personal that you would DIE b4 selling that.... That dear ones.... is your next best seller.

I wish all my brothers and sisters of the written words good luck. Take aim at a new idea. Your next fan is waiting..... Take care. Luv u all. Bee good to your selves and each other.

Luv Lilliana Cross.


message 15: by Jenny (new)

Jenny Byrne | 29 comments Lilliana Cross again...
For life is hard enough, try and rest. Like "Bob" said "Baby steps" LC


message 16: by Heidi (new)

Heidi Peltier | 25 comments At least your title is in English! I tried to be fancy and cute and made mine in Italian, granted it's the name of the island where the story takes place, but the very first question I was asked (and it was repeated many times after) was "is this story in Spanish?" yeah. So, I ended up doing a title expansion which ultimately led to the creation of a series, the title of which is in English. big lesson though, test out the title before going live with it. :) Best of luck to you!


message 17: by Jon (new)

Jon Etheredge (jonetheredge) | 495 comments LC - the heart always heals.
Heidi - corazon, quiza es la hora para escribir en una otra lingua.


message 18: by Jenny (new)

Jenny Byrne | 29 comments Jon-Thanx. I am possitive that my "baby bear" and I WILL have a happier ending than William's "Romeo and Juliet"-he he (Joke). No kidding aside. Love is the single most powerful emotion on, above and beyound this Earth. It can make u laugh. Or hurt. Either way. I am just plain greatful to have the right to FREE SPEACH and the freedom of THE WRITTEN WORD!

I still think today's "diva's" are just so SAD. Shouting about "nail polish" problems, realy dears? -


message 19: by Jenny (new)

Jenny Byrne | 29 comments Getting fired on 12-24-06. Nope sorry. Ther is a night mare! OMG! and Holly @#$#! I win. Yep. he he.

Love yaguys. Make something "awesome." Lilliana Cross.

Hey at least I can still laugh!


message 20: by Jenny (new)

Jenny Byrne | 29 comments beacause you know. "nail polish" problems. and of course.... "I MUST HAVE MY DIMOND!" Just laugh and and then think. "A dimond is for ever. Maybe I should get a smaller one. And WHEN we have money saved-LATER, maybe then we could get one." Sweet hearts. take it from a "cougar" in her mid 40's..... NOTHING on this Eath, NOTHING will hurt like money coming in bewteen you and your soul mate.... NOTHING!

Take care, Luv Lilliana Cross.

If not, well I guess I was wrong....


message 21: by Jenny (new)

Jenny Byrne | 29 comments Hi guys, my 43rd Birthday was yesterday. It was awesome! Anything was better than last year. Dealing w/ Hurricane "Sandy" was a night mare 4 all.

I hope every one had a good day. I'm working on a collection of short stories, that should bee out by the holidays.

Take care. Bee good to your selves and each other.

Lilliana Cross.


message 22: by Jenny (new)

Jenny Byrne | 29 comments Lilliana here again, I'm was in NY last year. The NY fire men and police men are so brave. I hope that this hurricane season is not as bad as last year.

Take care. Lilliana Cross.

Oh I've been reading "The Shining" (for the 3rd deacde) of trying to reach the end of the single most scary and night marish book in all of print....

"Long Live the KING!"

PS I thank Mr. King for reminding me on how much fun it is to wake up screaming in the middle of the night! Thank~you Mr. King.


message 23: by Jenny (new)

Jenny Byrne | 29 comments Then there is the "Queen" Anne Rice. Lestat can tare my throat out any night he wishes.

OH and what happened to "Buffy"? I think any girl in high school that can kick Dracula's hairy but back to his country in tears, well do i need 2 say more?


message 24: by Jenny (new)

Jenny Byrne | 29 comments Lilliana Cross, I've been thinking. If some one were to make a movie~theater~version of Stephen King's "The Stand". In 4 parts. Denis Leary should play "Randel Flag"! Hands down! He'd be a ruthless Devil. And still loveable as a saber~toothed~tiger.

Lilliana Cross.


message 25: by Jenny (new)

Jenny Byrne | 29 comments Suriving Sandy in person, was terrifing. I thought "Gloria" in 1985 was a night mare. I'm working on a story on that to. That was just plain hell on Earth. Period!

Lilliana Cross


message 26: by Jon (new)

Jon Etheredge (jonetheredge) | 495 comments Jenny wrote: "Lilliana Cross, I've been thinking. If some one were to make a movie~theater~version of Stephen King's "The Stand". In 4 parts. Denis Leary should play "Randel Flag"! Hands down! He'd be a ruthless..."

No. Steve Railsback!


message 27: by Jenny (new)

Jenny Byrne | 29 comments Hi John, I'm not quite shure whom Steve Railsback. What movies was he in. And why not Mr. Leary? he was insane in "Judgementn night." Let me know what movies Steve Railsback was in.

Lilliana Cross.


message 28: by Jon (new)

Jon Etheredge (jonetheredge) | 495 comments He played charles manson.


message 29: by Jenny (new)

Jenny Byrne | 29 comments Oh My goodness. Well I guess that would be a sick choice. I agree. Lilliana.


message 30: by Jenny (new)

Jenny Byrne | 29 comments Has any one read a Emma Holly book? And witch one? I think she is a cross between Anne Rice and Danielle Steel. I loved her short story "The Night Owl" in "Hot Blooded". I must have read it 100 times in the year 2004. (the year b4 I met my Joey.) (That book shure did help. A LOT!) He he. ~
~Lilliana Cross.

Oh I also recomend "The Watcher" By James Howe. I met him at Mrs. Greens Natural market in katonah, NY. He gave me his autograph~ I loved meeting him. I think HE was more excited than I. (Due to the fact "Bunnicula" was published in the mid'70's.)


message 31: by Jenny (new)

Jenny Byrne | 29 comments Hi guys, Lilliana Cross, has any one tried "Jewel of the forest" on www.bookstandpublishing.com? let me know. Oh and I love that Anne Rice has a new series coming out. YAHOOOO Thank God. If I had 2 hear another useless word about "Twilight" I think i'd just laugh. Diss'ed again by "The King of Bangor". I watch those movies 4 laughs!

Oh and dears.... If a teen aged girl named "Buffy" could kick Dracula's but back home in tears. Eddie wouldn't stand a chance! OMG!

Well I'm working on about 5 or 7 books at the same time. From fluffy fantasy stories. To "Call a priest" kinda a thing.... Sorry I've been up all weekned and I have a high fever too. xx oo 2 all LC


message 32: by Jenny (new)

Jenny Byrne | 29 comments Also it shure dosen't help you to sleep, trying to read "The Shinning" before bed. hhehe.. I just love waking up trying to catch my breath, it's fun. Luv ya guys. And thank you. I am so happy to be published. Life is hard, well you could be kimmy-whore-dashian complaining about "nail polish". Ya a real problem... I'll laugh for ever.... LC


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