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Hunger Games or Divergent?
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Apr 04, 2014 07:24AM
THG. But that's because I hated Four & Fourtris, I might have enjoyed Divergent more if it weren't for Four.
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I stand by what I said LittleMissFangirl(Zoe), hunger games is better. How can you say Finnick and prim died for no reason? It's a war. People have to die, and just because you didn't like who it was doesn't mean it's not good. It's realistic. Veronica Roth; I feel like she just killed people off, and didn't spend the necessary time on each individual death. Particularly Marlene's. And Uriahs death, like I said before was ruined. Again I know Suzanne Collins has ruined her fare share of deaths too, but still. And gale has been consistent! In catching fire he insists on staying! He wants to rebel and fight, and he is a bloodthirsty jerk from the beginning; it's just that nobody noticed because there was no war. Hunger games is so much better, I can't believe how many people are saying divergent. I just don't understand how people could get it into their heads that it's better.
I won't say if I think that one of these two series are better than the other. They are both really excellent and powerful trilogies. I will say however, that I preferred Divergent. It's more because I can relate to Tris easier than I can to Katniss. That said, I don't really get either of them. I love how strong they are (whereas in Tris' case, she grows stronger as the trilogy goes along) and how their different worlds are both creative and change them in huge ways. I don't like Tobias/Four, although I like Peeta and Gale. I also remember that my first thoughts after reading Divergent (bk 1) was that it was a copy of The Hunger Games. Now, I don't think that's true.I like how in the Divergent trilogy, Tris grows stronger as a person and we can see why. Her world was very captivating and imaginative to me. I also found the messages in Allegiant and Insurgent really clear and they came on strong. In THG, Katniss was always a really strong person. I couldn't understand her at all. She was always pushing people around or pushing them away unless they were 12 years old. I guess another reason that I don't like Hunger Games as much is because I was younger when I read it (between the ages of 11 and 13. I read Divergent in the same time period, but later). I'm 13 now. Please don't judge me for my age.
Charlotte I couldn't agree with you more!! The Hunger Games is definitely better than Divergent. If I could scream what you said from the rooftops I would!! lol.
I like Tris way more than Katniss, but I prefer the plot and the writing of THG.
I can't figure out why anyone who like Tris over Katniss. Maybe I need to re-read the Divergent series. I just don't understand the hype. Tris just came off as whiny and scared to me. I like a heroine who is fierce without a man.
I think Tris and Katniss are pretty much the same...
I do not even know how to respond to that
I find both series to be incredibly similar to each other in both plot and characters. Too similar for me to be comfortable with that.
The craziest part is that I cannot think of one thing they have in common.
Well lets think about this then:1. They're both female.
2. They both live in a post-apocalyptic society where people are put into groups.
3. They both kind of initiate and participate in a war against the government.
4. They both had men do the talking for them.
5. They both weren't quite mentally stable and we had to suffer through reading about their emotional problems.
I haven't yet read Allegiant so I'm not sure how the Divergent series ends but this is what I have so far.
Oh yea, and they're also both the same age, in the first book at least.
Yea I can't wait to read it. I just bought it but I'm going to wait until I finish re-reading Mockingjay to read it.
Number 5 and that they are female are the only ones I will agree with. Number 5 is perfection. Just wait til you read Allegiant. I'm 100% sure Veronica Roth became unhinged while writing that one.
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Just because they both have a female main character and live in the dystopian government and are split of up doesn't make them the same. They are sooooo different.
Charlotte wrote: "I stand by what I said LittleMissFangirl(Zoe), hunger games is better. How can you say Finnick and prim died for no reason? It's a war. People have to die, and just because you didn't like who it w..."Maybe because Divergent is actually better. plain and simple. The Divergent series has had a stronger impact on the fans then Hunger games did. And Suzanne Collins messed up most of the deaths in the books. I understand that why Finnick and Prim died- but there was no REAL reason. The series would've been the same if finnick had lived…
The divergent series would not be the same if certain characters didn't die. Marlene's death actually made since- it gave tris a reason to go to erudite, it gave a reason for Uriah to grieve. Lynn's death gave a reason to show how Uriah's character had been through so much- and how he was loosing all that he had ever known. You also have to realize the hunger games series takes place over 2-3 years while Divergent series takes place in less than 1 year- so it makes since for deaths to be rushed(which for the most part they weren't). Hunger games deals with a long time period- and Suzanne still manages to kill finnick in one sentence, and prim in one paragraph.
Whow whow whow The Divergent series have deaths that are completely unnecessary and confusing. At least the Hunger Games deaths make sense. And you actually knew who the person dying was.
They are similar. That is my opinion. That is all.
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Thank you Margaret, at least someone agrees with me.
Yeah...Bitte!
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Sara wrote: "Well lets think about this then:1. They're both female.
2. They both live in a post-apocalyptic society where people are put into groups.
3. They both kind of initiate and participate in a wa..."
THEY ARE NOT THE SAME THING. All books have freaking similarities!! The only two similarities these books have is that they have a female protagonist(which most books have these days) and that they are dystopian.
Don't even try and compare the Hunger Games romance with Divergent because…
1. DIVERGENT DOES NOT HAVE A LOVE TRIANGLE
2. Tris finds the love of her life in one book, while it takes katniss 3 books to finally realize that she loves peeta.
3. Tris was not needy for a man, if you read Allegiant you will understand.
4. this quote explains that she doesn't "need" Four
“I fell in love with him. But I don't just stay with him by default as if there's no one else available to me. I stay with him because I choose to, every day that I wake up, every day that we fight or lie to each other or disappoint each other. I choose him over and over again, and he chooses me.”
5. (view spoiler)
So they are not alike even a tiny bit? They are completely different in every single way?
Well considering I never said anything about romance in any of my comments, your comment makes little sense to me. Try re-reading what I said.
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I didn't ask for a list of why they are not alike. I can do that for myself.
Whether they are or aren't alike, Divergent is still inferior to The Hunger Games.
Here's a major reason why I love the divergent WAY more than the hunger games: I read the whole series each within around 2 or 3 days. The hunger games on the other hand...not only did I feel like I couldn't truly get to know the characters, but mockingjay was practically a pile of shit. The whole book I was pulling out my hair and wanting to just burn it and get it over with. It was incredibly dull and Finnick died in one freaking sentence. Each death that happened through the divergent series led into something bigger and showed you something about the corrupt world or about a character. While Suzanne Collins killed characters off for no reason, then had Katniss practically catatonic. Divergent on the other hand, gave the characters each several chapters to mourn a characters death or for the death to lead to something important. 1/4 of the book was after Tris died and after that, I really felt like I knew Tobias way more. Overall, THG is WAY overhyped and can actually get pretty boring, while divergent was intriguing and I felt like I knew the characters like they were my best friend
Abigail wrote: "Here's a major reason why I love the divergent WAY more than the hunger games: I read the whole series each within around 2 or 3 days. The hunger games on the other hand...not only did I feel like ..."AGREED.
Yeah Mockingjay was horrible. But I disagree with getting to know the Divergent characters better, by the time you get to the second and third book you can't even tell the characters apart, you don't know who is good and who is evil, she kills off characters CONSTANTLY for no reason, she also adds too many new ones, she flips around character personalities. THG isn't my favorite series, but at least I could tell the characters apart and I knew who was evil.
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No you actually could not, almost none of them had a reason to die, they just...did...But there were so many different groups of people trying to take over that you didn't know who was the good one. Heres another problem I have with Divergent. Its that the "smart" ones, the ones who read and crave knowledge are the evil ones. Why do the smart people have to be evil! In real life, the Dauntless would have been the evil ones, not the smart ones.
Once Upon A Time wrote: "In divergent each character had a purpose and reason to die. You could tell right way who was bad and good in it as well."EXACTLY!!
If you say that the deaths didn't have a meaning… then you must be reading the books wrong… @Margaret
Nope, I'm pretty sure I was reading the right books. I do own all 3...
I have to agree with Margaret here. There were less characters overall in THG so they were easier to keep track of. In Divergent, there were so many freaking characters it was nearly impossible to keep track of who was who.
Yeah, Idk how everyone else keeps track of them.
it wasn't necessarily that the erudite were evil. The faction leaders convinced them that what they were doing was the right thing. And the entire erudite faction really didn't DO anything evil, it was jeanine who developed the simulation serum.
Yeah, the evil smart ones. The faction leaders.
mostly just ONE faction leader- jeanine. She developed the idea that the way Abnegation governed was corrupt. She convinced most people. And her being wicked smart gives a reason for her to have thoughts- given that she had a higher IQ then common erudite and that was why she was elected as leader- it makes since why she would have thoughts as to why the selfless faction governed not the intelligent faction.
The constantly adding and killing characters in Divergent made it extremely hard to follow.
LittleMissFangirl {Zoe} wrote: "mostly just ONE faction leader- jeanine. She developed the idea that the way Abnegation governed was corrupt. She convinced most people. And her being wicked smart gives a reason for her to have th..."It doesn't matter if it was just one or not, Erudite were the evil ones (?) in the book. The smart faction was evil.
