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Personally, I found the one kiss in Native Star far more intense, sexy, and satisfying than any of the sex scenes in Warrior. Probably, because I felt that there was better build up and sexual tension. Have you ever had a similar reaction? Where a mere kiss or even just a confession of love more gratifying than reading a sex scene?
Did anyone else find the big battle lacking in peril and suspense? After the race across the steppes and the Gobi, I expected more. I know it's a romance, but with action scenes like the True Hammer of Thor, I expected more of a nail-biting battle. The allies' planning was too perfect. Nothing went wrong, unless you count the golem -- I don't. As soon as one of the Heirs started whipping up magic, I expected some big baddie to emerge. Insufficient peril in the final battle doesn't give enough contrast to make the HEA as HEA as it can be.
It seems pretty important to have a discussion about how many times dear old Captain Huntley in Warrior was getting turned on to the point of an erection and somehow no one noticed, as well as the fact that 90% of these instances were when Thalia's hair was flowing in the wind or blowing her nose or standing in a mud puddle or whatever. I know that the genre is inherently excessive and unreasonable in that department but still, it was just a tiny bit strange/hilarious.
Hayden wrote: "It seems pretty important to have a discussion about how many times dear old Captain Huntley in Warrior was getting turned on to the point of an erection and somehow no one noticed, as well as the ..."Romance trope #35,372: I haven't been with a woman in sooooo long, of course I'm going to get turned on by anything female... or am I? (AKA the "Starving a penis gives it tru-luv-dar" cliche)
Hayden wrote: "It seems pretty important to have a discussion about how many times dear old Captain Huntley in Warrior was getting turned on to the point of an erection and somehow no one noticed, as well as the ...""hair was flowing in the wind or blowing her nose or standing in a mud puddle", these are actual boner-inductors
I thought I missed it while on vacation. I can't wait to participate. I loved both books & read their sequels.
Kamil wrote: "hair was flowing in the wind or blowing her nose or standing in a mud puddle", these are actual boner-inductors "There is a fetish for anything... including for muddy women.
I know Felicia and Bonnie are both going to be at NYCC - any chance of a meetup? I'm so sad I'm going to miss the G&S panel!!! (stupid job, grrr)ETA: The next Gotham Quills & Quims (NYC) meetup is October 26th!
In Native Star sangrimancy aka blood magic is considered reprehensible, unclean and its practitioners carry a stigma. Considering the way the blood magic works in this book I understand why it is so. But in general it seems to me that in fiction blood magic is considered the bad kind. Why is that? And couldn't it be argued that blood magic may aswell be the good kind?
In warrior there are some slightly racist tropes; But don't you think it's actually a miscalculation by the author? What if she just wanted to show how the whole universe was supporting the MC's fated love?
Tereza wrote: "In Native Star sangrimancy aka blood magic is considered reprehensible, unclean and its practitioners carry a stigma. Considering the way the blood magic works in this book I understand why it is s..."I get the feeling that blood magic is something negative because a person uses that to control/injure/etc. another person. Remember, the villain, Caul, murders his subordinates to gain strength -- they even expand a bit in the sequel, The Hidden Goddess by mentioning (in a way) that Caul was not just some out-of-control sangrimancer, murder is a common thing among its practitioners.
So I think that the point of blood magic is that it is something very, very powerful, but to obtain that it comes at a high cost (your morality/soul).
I just want to mention that I love this bookclub even though I occasionally dislike the picks. Thank you ladies so much for making this possible!
ok...even with the extra week..i cannot finish Warrior...for some reason, if a book is not that inspiring to me, it HAS to be scifi if i'm going to finish it...does any of you have preferences like that ?
Paraphrasing what Veronica said, we read these books to get "something" out of it. Didn't you feel like in "warrior" we got plenty of that something but it was a raw dish lacking spicing and cooking? (There was no build-up)
Did anyone else who really liked Warrior get a little disappointed by the descriptions of the other three books? On one hand, it is kind of neat to see the world built in the series through other characters' eyes; but on the other, I would like to continue on with Thalia's and Capt. Huntley's story. I suppose it's possible they make appearances, or that a future novel may be more of an ensemble cast. Granted also, it probably won't stop me from reading one or more of the "sequels"
I find it a little more than irksome that the world seems to have decided that a "strong" female character = a woman who rejects traditionally feminine things in preference for traditionally masculine things. I placed "strong" in quotation marks because even this overused word has overly masculine connotations and would probably be better replaced with "empowered". I wonder, what would an impressive and empowered female protagonist who embraces traditionally feminine things look like?
This being our 21st VF Hangout, does this mean our book club can legally drink?
Warrior had a very cinematic (or TV...) flavor to it to me. Aside from casting, do you picture books as films or video?
Have any of you read any of the lords of the underworld series by Gena Showalter?
Post stuff here you want us to talk about regarding this month's books (Warrior and Native Star) or anything else in this theme/genre that's of interest! We will stream live on Tuesday night at 8pm PST, Oct 1rst!
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