Twilight (which the group decided is TRASH!!!)

[♫ Tina ♫, head mod]

Mandy wrote: "Oh boy. Your'll probaly kick me out for this, but it seems to me that yall are being wayyyy to extreme about this. You don't like twilight. We get it. Is there really any reason to rant on about it..."

Haha i totally agree! And i doubt they'll kick you out, cuz all you are doing is debating and isn't tht what this group is for?

[Mandy]

Oh. Huh, totally forgot it was a debate group. Good point. Now I dont feel so mean...

[♫ Tina ♫, head mod]

Haha yeah but i totally agreee with yr points! :)

[Mandy]

I didn't run out of things, I just got board with going on about it.

Sooo...

1. I was kidding about the kicking out thing, okay?
2. The Mary Sue this was just a short ramble. I know its a commenly used thing.
3.What exactly do you mean about the "people read the books because they feel like it"? I already new that...
4. By "It" do you mean love? And, if thats true, you say the characters should have realistic feeling. Yet your use of "supposed" states that you have never been in love. So,how do you honestly know what realistic feelings are?
5. Just did :)

[[deleted user]]

The Mary Sue thing, she is always close to dying, then all of a sudden a sparkly MALE vampire comes out and saves her.

And seriously, what the hell is with the sparkling? I know that if I was a vampire, I would rather be known as a killer who burned in the sun.

[♥Sarah♥]

o great

[[deleted user]]

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[[deleted user]]

no. I was doing ... for when they were listing

[Mez]

omg i think TWILIGHT is the best book ever!!
but i dnt think its very well written its just the whole perfect love thing b/w bella n edward
everyone hates bella or just envies her lol

[[deleted user]]

... Let me guess... you like cheap trash?

[♥Sarah♥]

o. diss

[Mandy]

What I want to know is why your so against male help. You say that Bella can't do anything, bla bla, she needs help from a MALE (as you put it)and that makes her a weak character? But then I suppose if roles where reveresed, as in Bella saving Edward, you wouldnt mind? I hope you reliaze how sextiest that is...

Also, reading because everyone else is and you want to discuss the books? OK. In my opinoun, if you really hate something theres no point in continuning to do it... no matter how much you want to "fit in" so you can "chat" about it.

[[deleted user]]

No, it's just in a lot of stories it's the guy saving the girl, but in Twilight, he saves her ALL THE FRICKING TIME.

[♥Sarah♥]

lol. sorry 2 get off subject but plz click on these...

[[deleted user]]

lol...

[[deleted user]]

Mandy wrote: "What I want to know is why your so against male help. You say that Bella can't do anything, bla bla, she needs help from a MALE (as you put it)and that makes her a weak character? But then I suppos..."

She cant take a SCRACHT!

[Mandy]

.... What do you mean she can't take a sratch? Becuase, lets be real, we all know thats a major exagertion.

And.. don't forget that Bella does save everyone else to. She saves Edward in New Moon and her entire familey in breaking dawn. And then Bella is not saved by Edward all the time. She saves her self and others save her.

Also, the whole reason Bella needs saving in the first place (besides by car thing) is because good old Edward put her into danger the first place... I suppose it would be better if he didnt fix his mistakes?

[[deleted user]]

I agree

[[deleted user]]

sure. Wait is that a group?

[Mandy]

See? Thats exactly the reason why I can't take your aguement seriously. Your giving little to no reason why you hate the seiris.

[♥Sarah♥]

mandy just got u

[♫ Tina ♫, head mod]

Yes what are your reasons for hating Twilight?

[[deleted user]]

It's a gushy, musy, novel

[[deleted user]]

lol

[[deleted user]]

yup!

[[deleted user]]

lol

[[deleted user]]

;)

[♫ Tina ♫, head mod]

Icefire wrote: "It's a gushy, musy, novel"

So i guess you dont like romance books, right?

[♫ Tina ♫, head mod]

Miss Scarlett (Marina) wrote: "Its the whole creepy "i vant to suck your bloood!!" thing. i kno they dont say it, pop culture ref. And bella is USLESS! A relationship should be both CONSTANTLY helping each other. Not one sucking..."

About the vampire thing Stephenie Meyer wrote the book based on what she sees as a vampire--a creature thats sparkles in sunlight. Yes thats not really what a vampire is but thats what she sees it as. Secondly, yes, Bella is very dependant on Edward but thats because thats her character

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♫Tⓘnⓐ♫ wrote: "Icefire wrote: "It's a gushy, musy, novel"

So i guess you dont like romance books, right?"

nope. I prefer action!

[♫ Tina ♫, head mod]

yeah i know i mean that toally cancels out the blood sucking part but i guess Stephenie Meyer likes sparkly vamps

[[deleted user]]

Miss Scarlett (Marina) wrote: "vamps shouldn't be sparkly.. sorry"

I agree

[♫ Tina ♫, head mod]

Icefire wrote: "♫Tⓘnⓐ♫ wrote: "Icefire wrote: "It's a gushy, musy, novel"

So i guess you dont like romance books, right?"

nope. I prefer action!"

Ahh yeah i wasn't really into romance before i started Twilight..iliked books such as Warriors and Harry Potter

[[deleted user]]

lol me 2!

[♫ Tina ♫, head mod]

haha i thought that it was okay

[Mandy]

I still don't see why every one acts like Bella is such a horrible character. To me, Bella is more like the pretty non-popular shy kid that everyone likes. Is she a warrior? No. But then, you can't really expect her to be against vampires - not with out Buffy powers anyway.

Also, vampires have been around for a long, long time.. a lot longer the dracular and there are older myths then the ones your use to. So, pretty much vampires can be any thing you want.

[[deleted user]]

... I like Maximum ride, where Max is the shy, parinode warrior girl. And she's pretty too!

[♫ Tina ♫, head mod]

Miss Scarlett (Marina) wrote: "Mandy wrote: "I still don't see why every one acts like Bella is such a horrible character. To me, Bella is more like the pretty non-popular shy kid that everyone likes. Is she a warrior? No. But t..."

haha..

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lol

[Mandy]

Icefire wrote: "... I like Maximum ride, where Max is the shy, parinode warrior girl. And she's pretty too!"

Off topic.. but totaly agree. Max rocks.

Although, I suppose I should ask how this relates to Twilight?

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lol

[Claire, the faithful vice mod]

guys, do we REALLY have to have this discussion? YOU MADE YOUR POINT FOREVER AND A DAY AGO PLZ DON"T TAKE THiS PERSONALLY BUT DROP IT

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[Mandy]

But... why is there a fourm if we should drop the disscusion? If we should stop talking about this shoudnt the fourm be delated?