Language & Grammar discussion
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As for poetry, everyone must buy the obscure journal that publishes my first poem in September. I need to keep this editor in the black if she's going to publish the likes of me. Congrats on your published poetry!
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Hi Sarah.....you are part of the furniture anyway!!!
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New Sarah. Sounds somewhat like a place....or am I thinking New Salem? I believe there is one.
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It was only a matter of time before New Sarah was founded and settled. Um. You are settled now, aren't you, Sarah?
In Yinglish, one would say, "Nu, Sarah?"
Yes, I've been founded and populated. Is Yinglish Yiddish and English? Cute. In German, they say "Na, Sarah?"
Yinglish is English tinged with Yiddish."Gonif," "meshugah," and "chutzpah" are among the common borrowings ("crook," "nuts," and "unmitigated gall," repectively).
The Joys of Yiddish is the classic work on the subject.
Yinglish is English tinged with Yiddish."Gonif," "meshugah," and "chutzpah" are among the common borrowings ("crook," "nuts," and "unmitigated gall," repectively).
The Joys of Yiddish is the classic work on the subject.
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Newengland wrote: "Yinglish, Franglais, and Spanglish. What else?"Texmex?
It's such a good idea that you have introduction section in your group. I was tempted to join this group because of the fascinating name of it and also very intereting topics I found in it.I'm 24-year-old girl from Iran. At first I should say English is taught in Iran as a foreign language and the experience is not so fruitful in schools. I myself learned English in private institutes and then I studied English language and literature in university for my B.A. and right now I'm studying English language teaching in M.A. programs. So I should say I'm somehow a novice English teacher who deals with language and grammar all the time. I would be glad to learn from skillful friends here who are mostly experienced teachers and linguists.
I'm also going to write a thesis which is related to vocabulary skill and also one of the topics in your group. For I'm really interested in searching about the role of lexical sets and word associations in teaching and learning a second language. I wish I could manage it.
Thanks for reading my words.
Thanks GabiYou're completely right. Learning English could be even more difficult for those who had different alphabet and writing system for their native language. In my own case I could manage learning French more easily at university after already having the experience of learning English as a second language. These languages have so many cognates that can help those who had the background. But in the case of Persian language, the whole writing and spelling system differs from that of English language and this makes the teacher's job harder.
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Thanks Mr. NewenglandThat was really kind of you, letting me create a toic I may need in the future. At first I prefer to read all your previous posts, maybe some areas of my interest have been discussed before. Actually there are lots of posts I should take a look at and this proved me that your group is really active.
You used "Shah" instead of king, it seems that your persian is not so bad. I am glad you know Iranian people and I should say they are right: Iran is a beautiful country with very nice people. I myself do not like politics totally but I know what you talk about. I just wish the peace govern all over the world between all nations and among all human beings.
I'm sure your experiences would help me alot.
Hi Baran -I'm sure your English, or at least your grammar, is way better than many native speakers!
Iran is a fascinating country, and at a pivotal moment.
Nice to meet you,
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Welcome Baran!Your English is really wonderful! I'm very impressed!
I have been to Tehran many times during the time of
Mohammad Reza Shah Pahlavi and Empress Farah.
I couldn't imagine learning Farsi!...and there are others, right?
I was working as an International Flight Attendant for the now bankrupt Pan American World Airlines, and as one of my languages was Italian, I flew the Rome, Beirut (or Ankara-Istanbul) Tehran route often in the 70's. (and for a very short time-Damascus, Syria)
I loved your country and the people were all very warm and friendly. I can't imagine what it is really like right now...hopefully you have access to any and all books you want to read.
I always left Iran with good feelings and however much Caviar that customs would permit me to carry! :-)
Great to have a young lady from Iran with such a fine education and interest in English join us here!
Please feel free to ask us anything!
Susanne
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I've been to Waterbury, Connecticut.
As for active and inactive folders, there are probably more inactive than active, but that's true of many groups. If you like one, it is easily brought back to life. Just remember Lazarus and post away. Others will pipe in.
Agree with your political analysis, Baran. In the end, all people (not leaders always, but common people) want is to live their lives peacefully with their families. I know such a dream will never come true for this world, but it's pretty to think so!
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Hi Sarah,I know my English is not so good. Therefore I'm always searching for something new to learn. Your praising my grammar is really valuable for me. As I'm not so much confident of the correctness of my sentences most of the times, but I prefer to communicate rather than be silent for the possibility of errors.
That was really kind of you. Nice to meet you, too.
Susanne wrote: "I couldn't imagine learning Farsi!...and there are others, right?"Thanks Susanne for your warm and friendly welcome message. I'm so happy you had been in Iran before and you had had nice memorials from my country and my people. That's my pleasure you accepted my incomplete English knowledge as intelligible one in these writings. Your job as an international flight attendent seems really to be adventurous.
I'm glad to meet you here and I'm sure I can improve my English in this group by using the help of English native speakers who care language and grammar.
About the quote, I guess you could learn Farsi if you wished. It's not so much difficult!... Yes, you're right we have also some other languages like Turkish, Arabic, ... which are spoken in our country as informal languages.
Newengland wrote: "I know such a dream will never come true for this world, but it's pretty to think so! "
I do agree with you. This is just a dream and actually a very sweet dream. Many people live with this thought in their mind day and night but unfortunately reality is something else!
Thanks dear Debbie, nice to meet you, too.Even right now, I have actually got many things of value from your group. I didn't get the humour/humor part fully! I like the atmosphere of the discussions here, it seems very friendly and useful.
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In any event, it's all in good humor.
I thought the US adopted many of it's spelling idiosyncasies , not because emancipation from the UK, but to drop French spelling forms ( program for programme , center for centre and the like) ..
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And I think the split occurred because of the second-rate educations of New World settlers!!!! *Runs away and hides*
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Debbie wrote: "Across the pond, my dear, is the original....whatever comes second is the idiosyncrasy......Oh yes, I'm with Debbie . We gave you the language, what you did with it is ...idiosyncratic.....
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Newengland wrote: "Well, one could argue that, in addition to the Anglos and the Saxons, Rome and France gave YOU the language -- and then you perverted theirs."That true, they did, but I think I'd call it amalgamation. I quite like the idea that you can sort of detect the Anglo Sax in words like 'eighth', which otherwise are fairly hard to fathom spelling wise
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Hey. My name is Michelle. I'm a student learning English. Since English is my second language, I have difficulty learning grammar and words. That's why I joined this group, hoping to get some useful tips of learning English and to meet nice people. I'm really looking forward to having a great time as a member of this group.
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How is the weather in South Korea?
Well..It was drizzling outside until this weekend, however, the sky becomes clear as can be.I'm a bit surprised because I didn't expect you to answer me so soon. And, thanks for giving me a warm welcome. I wish I will quickly be comfortable in speaking 'living English'.
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Glad for your clear skies. I'm posting from the State of Maine, where we're in dire need of a "sky scraper" to clear away the clouds (the gray ones have developed a mad crush for our unfortunate state).
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Hello Debbie, I'm in complete novice mode and a reforming luddite so be patient! I'm from Dublin in Ireland, an adult literacy tutor part time and finally starting my eng lit degree next month. This looks fun here Debbie!
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Wake up NE and say hello to Joanie!!!
Thanks for the welcome Debbie. You're an exceptionally good hostess!
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Joanie, you finally made it! Good to see you here. Post wherever and whenever and most of the time you'll find some response. Fellow poetry lover Ruth is here quite a bit, too. I like poetry and even write some, but I'm a rank amateur beside her.
And Debs is the best hostess this side of Christchurch.
super! Look forward to meeting Ruth. Yeah, Debbie has a new fan, I'm feeling at home already, thanks Debbie.
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I went to grad school for language education (ages ago), where I also studied English grammar. I love language and words and slang, idiom and grammar. I've studied French and Chinese, and I'm fluent in German and can find my way in Italian.
I'm a poet (go to my profile and find a couple of my poems) and an eager reader open to many things, but rather cool to fantasy, horror, sci-fi and spy novels. I've tried, though.
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