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message 701: by J. (new)

J. Booklover (jbooklover2000) | 9 comments Newengland wrote: "Hello, Jessica! Always good to see another English teacher on deck. I taught juniors and seniors, too, once upon a time. Presently, however, my job is to teach 14-year-olds (that fickle race kno..."

Oooh 8th graders. The closest I got to that was when I taught 9th graders. Fun! LOL.


message 702: by Ruth (new)

Ruth | 16546 comments Mod
8th grade is not an age. It's a disease.




message 703: by Ken, Moderator (new)

Ken | 18714 comments Mod
Why, Ruth. How politically uncorrect. I am shocked, appalled, and amused to no end.

Keep up the irreverent work!


message 704: by [deleted user] (new)

In my own experience (as a teacher, not as a student), 6th grade and 9th grade are the two years of schooling that would most benefit from separation and isolation from the general public. I went to observe a 6th grade class that was full of my former students and they were barely recognizable-- talk about Jekyll and Hyde! Where were the sweet 5th graders that had been mine just the last year? Who were these lip gloss obsessed, straightened haired girls? When did the boys get taller than me? And WHEN did they develop this ATTITUDE? YEECH!


message 705: by J. (new)

J. Booklover (jbooklover2000) | 9 comments I know what you mean. I find it amazing. I don't know what I was doing to myself teaching 9th grade all of those years. Don't get me wrong; the 11th and 12th graders have their issues as well. But the 9th graders are what we like to call "squirrely". That's a technical term. LOL.


message 706: by David (new)

David | 4568 comments The worst ages are 3 and 15.


message 707: by Debbie, sardonic princess of cheerfulness (new)

Debbie (sardonicprincessofcheerfulness) | 6389 comments Mod
NE!!!! Politically incorrect!!!!;-) (post 821).
In NZ, 14 year olds are in 4th form, or Year 10. Fourth form girls are notorious, although I have to say I was not typical. My daughter, however, needed to have her bedroom window nailed shut whilst in her 4th form year!!
I teach Y5/6 (10/11 yrs) and seeing them again after a year or two is just scary!



message 708: by Ken, Moderator (new)

Ken | 18714 comments Mod
Oops. IN, not un. I knew that. I think my brain is fried as bananas with all the work I'm doing on vacation.

4th form, 8th grade, it's all the same. Hormones. Talk about uncorrect being in!


message 709: by Debbie, sardonic princess of cheerfulness (new)

Debbie (sardonicprincessofcheerfulness) | 6389 comments Mod
Working on vacation?!! Get thee hence!


message 710: by Ken, Moderator (new)

Ken | 18714 comments Mod
I just Mapquested "Hence." Looks great! (Just had 10" of snow today, and now the Northern Wind doth blow... hey nonny freeze-your-nonnies.)


message 711: by David (new)

David | 4568 comments Vade retro, Satanas!


message 712: by Debbie, sardonic princess of cheerfulness (new)

Debbie (sardonicprincessofcheerfulness) | 6389 comments Mod
Show off!!!
Two references for 'get thee hence'...the Bible...
Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve. ...

.....and Shakespeare.......
Go get thee hence, Hadst thou Narcissus in thy face, to me. Thou wouldst appear most ugly. Anthony and Cleopatra, 2. 5 ...

Mapquested NE? Is that google maps or summat?


message 713: by Ken, Moderator (new)

Ken | 18714 comments Mod
Mapquest dot all-is-com. I avoid Google (a.k.a. "Big Brother Tracks Your Every Search"). Make it a New Year's Resolution: use www.scroogle.org instead.


message 714: by Debbie, sardonic princess of cheerfulness (new)

Debbie (sardonicprincessofcheerfulness) | 6389 comments Mod
Told you....I NEVER make New Year resolutions.......
Will give it a try anyway......thanks:-)


message 715: by Mikki (new)

Mikki (aussietwins99) | 27 comments Ok! Im new here and I speak Strine... Anyone else here know this form of English! Turns out I've been living afar for too long and now I occaisionally write things in other versions of English! What amazed me is many years ago I visited India and found even though English originated in England the Indians spoke the real true English that the English left behind! Still Im still trying to work out why the POMS call zuchinni courgette?? Any takers??
Anyhow Im looking to get to know you all!


message 716: by Mikki (new)

Mikki (aussietwins99) | 27 comments Ruth wrote: "Hmm. Looks like a cross between a grasshopper and a Jerusalem cricket. You're right about ugly.

As for wind, good thing you don't live at the foot of Cajon Pass directly in the path of the Sant..."





message 717: by Mikki (new)

Mikki (aussietwins99) | 27 comments Hi Ruth sorry but I've seen grasshoppers and even Jimney Cricket but haven'tyet played Cricket in Jerusalem?? Enlighten me whats the difference too me one Grasshopper is the same as the next!


message 718: by Debbie, sardonic princess of cheerfulness (new)

Debbie (sardonicprincessofcheerfulness) | 6389 comments Mod
Hi Mikki....I think you must have been looking at an old conversation about the NZ weta. I also speak Strine (or could if I wanted to...I lived in Sydney for 7 years...what part of Australia are you from?). As to the vegetable thing...zucchini is the Italian name for it, brought to Oz by its many Italian immigrants. Courgette is the French word for the same vegetable, and the English adopted that term for it (being geographically closer I suppose). In NZ we use both names interchangeably.


message 719: by Mikki (new)

Mikki (aussietwins99) | 27 comments Debbie wrote: "Hi Mikki....I think you must have been looking at an old conversation about the NZ weta. I also speak Strine (or could if I wanted to...I lived in Sydney for 7 years...what part of Australia are yo..."

Thanks yes I am aware of the origins of courgette and zuchinni , just the POMS feel its important to compete withthe french so I find it amusing...
I no longer live in Australia but was brought up in Sydneys Eastern Suburbs, yet doubt I would bring up children there now as I can't afford it!



message 720: by Mikki (new)

Mikki (aussietwins99) | 27 comments I just logged onto the SMH and they had a blog about the Best of for Aussies, anyhow they reckon the letter Iis the favourite for Aussies in 2008.
Anyhow I always dot my i's How about you guys? Do you agree , Aussies ?


message 721: by Mikki (new)

Mikki (aussietwins99) | 27 comments Newengland wrote: "New? Want to introduce yourself? Old? Stepping into the kitchen for a cold (or hot) drink and a little light (or heavy) side conversation? You've come to the right sink..."New England? Well I use the term Yank for all Americans (sorry if I offended you)hope you picked a great yank to marry , Congrats! Must be my Australian twang, hope you Americans forgive me!!




message 722: by Ken, Moderator (new)

Ken | 18714 comments Mod
Hey, Mikki. Welcome to Goodreads. You can call me most anything. Yank I'm fine with. I only draw a distinction between Yank (an American from the Disunited States) and Yank (a fan of the lowest, vilest baseball team in the D.S.). But I see you mean the former.

You may be our first from the Land of Oz, though Debs is right across the water from you and "did time" in the penal colony. I've never heard of "courgette" -- not once. Zucchini all the way, here!


message 723: by LeeAnn (new)

LeeAnn (readn4fun) What an awesome thread for a reading forum!! I would like to join this group!

My name is LeeAnn. I am also from New England!



message 724: by Ruth (new)

Ruth | 16546 comments Mod
Hi LeeAnn. Welcome aboard.




message 725: by Debbie, sardonic princess of cheerfulness (new)

Debbie (sardonicprincessofcheerfulness) | 6389 comments Mod
Hi LeeAnn...welcome to the asylum! :-)


message 726: by Ken, Moderator (new)

Ken | 18714 comments Mod
Yay, LeeAnn. Yay, New England (the location, not the author of this post). Yay, Anna Karenina (good book, not matter WHAT Tyler Too says... and say, the way he's going, Tyler's going to have to re-introduce himself).


message 727: by Debbie, sardonic princess of cheerfulness (new)

Debbie (sardonicprincessofcheerfulness) | 6389 comments Mod
Yeah! Where are you Tyler?


message 728: by Tyler (new)

Tyler  (tyler-d) | 268 comments I'm at home, but with serious problems, of which this Internet connection is one.
NE, no matter what you say, Anna Karenina is a monstrosity of a narrative. If you re-read it now, I'll bet money you won't score it as high as you did.

NE = Tolstoy
Tyler = Dostoevsky

You say tomato, I say tomahto.



message 729: by Debbie, sardonic princess of cheerfulness (new)

Debbie (sardonicprincessofcheerfulness) | 6389 comments Mod
Is it the weather conditions pounding your connectedness Tyler?


message 730: by Ken, Moderator (new)

Ken | 18714 comments Mod
Dostoevsky is the seer of the mind (psycho) and Tolstoy the seer of the flesh. The body of evidence favors Tolstoy. Clearly it was the translation you read.

=)


message 731: by David (new)

David | 4568 comments Ia Fyodor
In bad odor?


message 732: by Tyler (new)

Tyler  (tyler-d) | 268 comments Hi Debbie -- No, the weather's fine here. It's just the poor service.

NE -- How could Tolstoy see any flesh at all when he was so busy hiding it under such sententious corsets? No translation can cover up the fact that Fyodor rules, while Leo wrote only to please public opinion.




message 733: by Debbie, sardonic princess of cheerfulness (new)

Debbie (sardonicprincessofcheerfulness) | 6389 comments Mod
Are you two re-enacting the Battle of Borodino? Can you not agree that both are fine authors and that a supremacy is not necessary.....?


message 734: by Ken, Moderator (new)

Ken | 18714 comments Mod
Not see (tee hee) -er of the flesh, SEER. As in, a sensuous (as opposed to sensual) writer. He frequently alludes to the senses of smell, taste, touch, sound, and, of course, sight. His characters' solipsism demands as much. And how could a guy who ALIENATED so many readers with his ECCENTRIC opinions be accused of "writing to please the public"? (Rhetorical question there.)

Let's take this outside. I'm starting a new thread where I can post a few examples to show you what I mean.


message 735: by Ken, Moderator (new)

Ken | 18714 comments Mod
Oh come on, Deb. Cage matches are fun. Think of the possibilities:

Jane Austen vs. Henry James

Ernie Hemingway vs. Willie Faulkner

Curious George vs. The Hungry Caterpillar



message 736: by David (new)

David | 4568 comments C.S. Lewis vs. Tolkien (an easy one to call)

Isaac Asimov vs. Arthur C. Clarke

Ezra Pound vs. Bob Dylan (in the Captain's Tower, natch)


message 737: by Mikki (new)

Mikki (aussietwins99) | 27 comments Hi! Im new here joined a few days ago!
Ok! I live somewhere pretty contriversal at the moment but am originally from Australia! So if you want to learn strine or teach me about politically correct language according to some list Published in the US please do!! I know that Im forever learning and since returning to my child hood love last year, Im enjoying a new wealth of knowledge attained from the many books around in English!


message 738: by Mikki (new)

Mikki (aussietwins99) | 27 comments Debbie wrote: "Anyone seen Prabha lately? Has she become bored with us??
PS I never formally introduced myself either. I am Debbie and I live in New Zealand and I teach Year 6 kids (10 and 11 year olds). I have..."


Hi Debbie, tell you what I think you are right about being scared of marriage once burned its hard to trust again! Still Im wondering if I lived in NZ would I find more peace than in Australia! I hear you have a new PM so does that mean less action!


message 739: by Kathryn Parmeter (new)

Kathryn Parmeter | 3 comments Hi, just joined...I'm an MFA in creative nonfiction and constantly find myself tumbling over syntax, case and tense issues...it's actually horrifying. So maybe a little confersation will help--most books on the topic are deadly dry, mathematical, abstract in approach, and guaranteed to get me fast asleep in 5 minutes or less. I am the opposite of "nerd" but I appreciate deeply a lovely illustration or analogy, so I'm hoping the nerds among us will embrace their inner anality and show it proudly here.


message 740: by Ken, Moderator (new)

Ken | 18714 comments Mod
Nerds? There are no nerds here. In fact, it's a Nerd-Free Zone.

(I'm a MFA in creative fiction... but that's repetitive.)


message 741: by Kathryn Parmeter (new)

Kathryn Parmeter | 3 comments I think the word you're looking for is redundant, actually, Newengland...but I think of the word "nerd" in an extremely positive way, with envy, in fact, and if sticklers for grammar and language aren't nerds, then what is a word vs. science/math/technology nerd called, and where do they go to party? Sheesh


message 742: by Ken, Moderator (new)

Ken | 18714 comments Mod
Sticklers? There are no sticklers here. In fact, it's... oh... wait a minute... there I go again.

Whatever, welcome to the site, Kathryn. Call us what you will. Glad you're here.


message 743: by Debbie, sardonic princess of cheerfulness (new)

Debbie (sardonicprincessofcheerfulness) | 6389 comments Mod
Kathryn said...."so I'm hoping the nerds among us will embrace their inner anality and show it proudly here."

Welcome Kathryn...have fun but please ....no inside-out anality here!!


message 744: by Anthony (new)

Anthony Buckley (anthonydbuckley) | 112 comments I too wear my nerdship with pride. JK Galbraith said something like, "on the twenty-third draft, you add in the spontaneity". His point was that you have to do the nerdy bits first. Only then can you be spontaneous.


message 745: by Ken, Moderator (new)

Ken | 18714 comments Mod
But... but... who can truly define the good ship Nerd?


message 746: by David (new)

David | 4568 comments "Inside-out anality"?

An allusion to "Citizen Kane"?


message 747: by Kathryn Parmeter (new)

Kathryn Parmeter | 3 comments Yes...okay, thanks, and I agree Debbie, that imagery was a bit graphic...funny, though, now that I think about it. And the riffs are hysterical. Okay, I'll watch it. Just to keep things from getting gruesome. I can't promise to please any prudes, however...I do have a salty streak.


message 748: by Ken, Moderator (new)

Ken | 18714 comments Mod
We like spice, so you'll fit right in...



message 749: by Debbie, sardonic princess of cheerfulness (new)

Debbie (sardonicprincessofcheerfulness) | 6389 comments Mod
Spicy is good....humour that is!


message 750: by [deleted user] (last edited Jan 18, 2009 07:51AM) (new)

Aren't nerds those little crunchy Willy Wonka creations that are made of sugar and even though they come in different colors and flavors, they all end up tasting the same? And if you are not careful, you may break a tooth or pop a filling while eating them :(


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