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message 1: by Zohal, Co-Moderator (last edited Jul 26, 2013 01:39AM) (new)

Zohal | 1418 comments Mod
Have you ever started a series and you come across the most beautiful name ever? And you think .. oh my gosh, I love the sound of this name, I love how you pronounce it ... only to realise that you don't pronounce it like that at all.

Example 1: Turns out Jace (pronounced by the majority Jay-ssss) is actually pronounced (Jay-c) Or at least that was how it was meant to be seen and pronounced. Just hearing that, don't you feel as if you know nothing? It's like everything I knew about that name was false.

To tell you truth, I refuse to call Jace, Jay-cee. I just can't. Don't take Jace away from me!

So, has this ever occurred to you? Have you ever mispronounced a character's name and found out that the way you have been pronouncing it is wrong? As well as this, do you think it matters, how a name is pronounced?


message 2: by johanna (jo) (new)

johanna (jo) (johannad_m) Yes. Yes. Many times! (By the way, Jace sounds much better as Jays) I did that with Galen from Princess of the Midnight Ball. I said "Gal-en" in my head, but it turns out it's actually said "Gale-in".
*grumbling*
I liked Gal-en better.

And apparently Smaug is said "Smowg", and Beorn "Bay-orn", so my entire world has tipped upside down.


message 3: by Leyah (new)

Leyah (serferrant) | 291 comments What? My life... oh, what happened! I much prefer 'Smawg' and 'Bee-orn' D:


message 4: by johanna (jo) (new)

johanna (jo) (johannad_m) Exactly. My thoughts exactly.


message 5: by Leyah (new)

Leyah (serferrant) | 291 comments *sniffs* I hate it when that happens. When I'm talking about books with Mum, (when we've both read it) she always has to correct me on some point or another.


message 6: by johanna (jo) (new)

johanna (jo) (johannad_m) Ha!


message 7: by Aurora, Co-Moderator (new)

Aurora | 994 comments Mod
This happened to me when I was reading about constellations because I was a bored little child with nothing better to do. I came across Orion, the Warrior. And since I'd only read it and not heard it, I thought it was pronounced Or-ee-on. Turns out it's Or-eye-on. I actually made my character (Orion Quiros) with the pronunciation Or-ee-on in mind! So apparently not only is my life a lie, my character is a lie as well!

What.

Also, Sherlock Holmes. Sher-lock. Holmes. Apparently Holmes is pronounced "Homes". THE L IS SILENT!
I did not know this until I'd heard the movies and TV shows.


message 8: by johanna (jo) (new)

johanna (jo) (johannad_m) Aurora wrote: "This happened to me when I was reading about constellations because I was a bored little child with nothing better to do. I came across Orion, the Warrior. And since I'd only read it and not heard ..."

Well . . . It depends how you say it. I don't say it Homes, and I've been watching the Granada adaptations, and they say "Holmes". It's kind of . . . The L isn't silent, but it's not exactly "Hol-ms", either. It's just like a hint of an L.

At least, that's what it sounds like. But everyone says it different! D: Even different characters, in the same episode >.<


message 9: by Aurora, Co-Moderator (new)

Aurora | 994 comments Mod
Oh, one more thing: Loki.

I read this as Loh-key
And he is actually pronounced: Low-key

And the mighty Mjölnir will never be pronounced correctly from my mouth. Muh-joll-nir? Myoll-nir?
I asked professor Google, and he told me it's pronounced : Me-all-nhr
Surprise, surprise!


message 10: by Zohal, Co-Moderator (new)

Zohal | 1418 comments Mod
Aurora wrote: "This happened to me when I was reading about constellations because I was a bored little child with nothing better to do. I came across Orion, the Warrior. And since I'd only read it and not heard ..."

I knew the l was silent in "Holmes". However I had no idea about the pronunciation of Orion. But I'm going to stick with my original pronunciation. Because it sounds cooler in my head.


message 11: by Leyah (new)

Leyah (serferrant) | 291 comments Oh, is it really Low-ki? That's annoying.


message 12: by Leyah (new)

Leyah (serferrant) | 291 comments Johanna ღ♣✽Hobbit and Proud✽♣ღ wrote: "Aurora wrote: "This happened to me when I was reading about constellations because I was a bored little child with nothing better to do. I came across Orion, the Warrior. And since I'd only read it..."

It's like Folk, really. Everyone says it different


message 13: by Zia (new)

Zia Lawrence | 4 comments I don't think this has ever happened to me, probably because i have never asked how anybody else pronounces things...so i really hope, my world does not turn upside down, because i have mispronounced something. I think i probably have...like a lot>.<


message 14: by Leyah (new)

Leyah (serferrant) | 291 comments Isabelle wrote: "Aurora wrote: "This happened to me when I was reading about constellations because I was a bored little child with nothing better to do. I came across Orion, the Warrior. And since I'd only read it..."

I always pronounced it 'O-ryon', simply because my dad likes his constellations, and it's a pretty common one in the Southern hemisphere.


message 15: by Zohal, Co-Moderator (new)

Zohal | 1418 comments Mod
Aurora wrote: "Oh, one more thing: Loki.

I read this as Loh-key
And he is actually pronounced: Low-key

And the mighty Mjölnir will never be pronounced correctly from my mouth. Muh-joll-nir? Myoll-nir?
I asked ..."


Even though I pronounce Loki as (Low-key), now that I think about it "Loh-key" sounds cooler.


message 16: by L (new)

L | 1252 comments Yes, i have encountered this issue many times when i have read a word in a book and ended up pronouncing it incorrectly (to my horror!). It alters completely your thought process as a reader, and so i don't always like it when i find this out! For example when i was younger and read Harry Potter i couldn't pronounce Hermione properly (i was only 11 when the 1st book came out), and so it was a relief in latter years when i could.


message 17: by Zia (new)

Zia Lawrence | 4 comments Lucinda wrote: "Yes, i have encountered this issue many times when i have read a word in a book and ended up pronouncing it incorrectly (to my horror!). It alters completely your thought process as a reader, and s..."

Yip, i had almost the same thing, when i first saw Hermione's name, i just sort of called her "H", because i couln't pronounce it..:)


message 18: by Aurora, Co-Moderator (new)

Aurora | 994 comments Mod
Yeah, I saw the first Harry Potter movie before I read the books so I pronounced Hermione like the movies do. But when I look at the spelling it seems like a Her-me-own.

Strange. Phonetics is strange.


message 19: by johanna (jo) (new)

johanna (jo) (johannad_m) Urgh, I'm confused.
When you say "Low-key" Do you mean "Low" as in 'load', or as in 'how'? *lost*


message 20: by Aurora, Co-Moderator (new)

Aurora | 994 comments Mod
Johanna ღ♣✽Hobbit and Proud✽♣ღ wrote: "Urgh, I'm confused.
When you say "Low-key" Do you mean "Low" as in 'load', or as in 'how'? *lost*"


Oh sorry, I meant low as in 'load'.


message 21: by johanna (jo) (last edited Jul 26, 2013 06:50PM) (new)

johanna (jo) (johannad_m) Aurora wrote: "Johanna ღ♣✽Hobbit and Proud✽♣ღ wrote: "Urgh, I'm confused.
When you say "Low-key" Do you mean "Low" as in 'load', or as in 'how'? *lost*"

Oh sorry, I meant low as in 'load'."


Everything makes sense, now! :D xD

Lol, don't apologize -- My fault, and this language. English is a silly language :)


message 22: by talltyrion (new)

talltyrion | 708 comments Indeed it is...


message 23: by johanna (jo) (new)

johanna (jo) (johannad_m) WordlesslyAmazed03 wrote: "Indeed it is..."

It's the whole reason we're having these pronunciation problems! xD We wouldn't have this thread if English wasn't so weird :)


message 24: by talltyrion (new)

talltyrion | 708 comments I say we pool our money and buy a French teacher, guys.


message 25: by [deleted user] (new)

You know when you pronounce a character name a different way for so long and then you hear the author say the name differently and you're just like


message 26: by talltyrion (new)

talltyrion | 708 comments *stares pointedly at Sarah J Maas, Rick Riordan, I could go on...*


νєяαℓι∂αιиє  | 111 comments Everyone, please try to prounounce my name (from a book character): Veralidaine Sarrasri (then changed to Salmalín)

;)

And I definitely agree with everyone who is saying that the English language is silly.


message 28: by Leyah (new)

Leyah (serferrant) | 291 comments Veh-rahl-ee-dane Sa-rah-sree

I love Daine :)


νєяαℓι∂αιиє  | 111 comments Eeeee!!! You do??? Me too!!! (Obviously XD) The Immortals is still my favourite series, I haven't found another one that surpasses it.


message 30: by Leyah (new)

Leyah (serferrant) | 291 comments I have... but it's still a fantastic series, and my favourite of the Tortall ones :)


νєяαℓι∂αιиє  | 111 comments Yes, well, I must admit that I have read books that are written better, but I suppose I'm just hanging onto good memories from when I first read it and just have it stuck in my head. XD

A question, what do you think of the other books Tamora Pierce has written, the ones not set in Tortall? I, myself, do not like them much.


message 32: by Leyah (new)

Leyah (serferrant) | 291 comments I haven't read too many of them, but I did love the Circle of Magic series :)


νєяαℓι∂αιиє  | 111 comments Ah, ok then, I think I only read the first two books of that.


message 34: by Leyah (new)

Leyah (serferrant) | 291 comments To be honest, I think anything written by Tamora Pierce is brilliant and awesome :)


νєяαℓι∂αιиє  | 111 comments Agreed. :D


message 36: by Booknut, Head Moderator (new)

Booknut 101 (booknut101) | 4592 comments Mod
νєяαℓι∂αιиє wrote: "Eeeee!!! You do??? Me too!!! (Obviously XD) The Immortals is still my favourite series, I haven't found another one that surpasses it."

I love that series!! I should totally do a re-read of it sometime soon - Tamora Pierce's books are truly spectacular.


message 37: by [deleted user] (new)

Aurora wrote: "Oh, one more thing: Loki.

I read this as Loh-key
And he is actually pronounced: Low-key

And the mighty Mjölnir will never be pronounced correctly from my mouth. Muh-joll-nir? Myoll-nir?
I asked ..."


Meow-meow? What's meow-meow?


message 38: by Lady Poppy (new)

Lady Poppy | 367 comments My sister had never read The Hunger Games before seeing the movie version of it. The entire film she, and her boyfriend, thought everyone was saying Peter with a British accent for Peeta's name. I thought it was really funny once she told me :)


message 39: by Booknut, Head Moderator (last edited Jan 12, 2014 07:36PM) (new)

Booknut 101 (booknut101) | 4592 comments Mod
Okay...how would you pronounce: 'Farid'?

In the Inkheart movie they pronounced it: 'Fa-reeed.'
I always pronounced it more like: 'Fa-rid.'


message 40: by Aurora, Co-Moderator (new)

Aurora | 994 comments Mod
My uncle's name is Farid, and we've always pronounced it 'Fah-reed' but that's probably because for our culture/accent.

His Aussie friends pronounce it 'Fa-rid' or 'Fah-rid'


message 41: by Booknut, Head Moderator (new)

Booknut 101 (booknut101) | 4592 comments Mod
I wish all books had a pronunciation guide at the back, like the Inheritance Cycle series did. Christopher Paolini included all the words he used - including the made-up ones!


message 42: by Zohal, Co-Moderator (new)

Zohal | 1418 comments Mod
Aurora wrote: "My uncle's name is Farid, and we've always pronounced it 'Fah-reed' but that's probably because for our culture/accent.

His Aussie friends pronounce it 'Fa-rid' or 'Fah-rid'"


I've always pronounced it both ways.


message 43: by Zohal, Co-Moderator (new)

Zohal | 1418 comments Mod
Aurora wrote: "My uncle's name is Farid, and we've always pronounced it 'Fah-reed' but that's probably because for our culture/accent.

His Aussie friends pronounce it 'Fa-rid' or 'Fah-rid'"


I have a cousin who's name is Farid.


message 44: by Olivia (new)

Olivia (olivia1395) | 1948 comments I pronounce it Far-id. But I like both pronunciations:)


message 45: by [deleted user] (new)

This is really dumb but there are a lot of words I know the meaning of from reading it so often but I can't pronounce it correctly. *blushes*


message 46: by Olivia (new)

Olivia (olivia1395) | 1948 comments Same here. Haha


message 47: by Olivia (new)

Olivia (olivia1395) | 1948 comments Yeah, I tend to embarrass myself quite often.


message 48: by [deleted user] (new)

*nods*

I'll just say some word I've never heard in real life, but read a million times and some of my friends will give me whacko looks because I pronounced it wrong.

Happens all the time.


message 49: by Aurora, Co-Moderator (new)

Aurora | 994 comments Mod
Here's another one-

'Affidavit'
My pronunciation: Ah-FID-ah-vit
Actual pronunciation (apparently) : Ah-fi-DAY-vit


message 50: by Olivia (new)

Olivia (olivia1395) | 1948 comments I pronounced it the same way you do. Haha


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