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message 1: by Renee (new)

Renee (nightbird) | 334 comments I'm back with Outlander and I've noticed that throughout the books Claire mentions the triangular scar Jamie has, but we never find out what it's from. Do we? He has it before Wentworth. When he first meets Claire and it's odd that she's never asked, "Where did you get that?".

Have I missed something? It's always described, but never seems to have been explained.


message 2: by Wendy (new)

Wendy | 259 comments Renee, I think that it is explained somewhere. He recieved the scar when he was arrested and almost hanged by the British when he was 19(?). I think that Jack Randall gave it to him but I can't remember for sure. You'll probably find the answer as you read through Outlander again. Let us know for sure. ;)


message 3: by Renee (new)

Renee (nightbird) | 334 comments Well, that's just it. I can't find one. I'm well past the time where he's taken to Fort William. He gets flogged, yes. Randall beats his back with his saber at Lallybroch, yes. He holds a knife to Jamie's throat and draws blood. I don't know if 'that' could have been where he got it.


message 4: by Wendy (new)

Wendy | 259 comments That might be it. I think that is where I got that impression.


message 5: by Cynthia (new)

Cynthia Hanna-Tarantino (ctara) | 309 comments was that the area where Randall branded him with the signet ring? and Jamie cut it out to remove it? I may be totally off here and making this up!!


message 6: by Angela (new)

Angela (angelah110) | 40 comments Randall branded him on his chest(near left nipple?)
Right? I agree with the triangular scar coming from the Lallybroch incident. I don't think DG has been definite on that though...


message 7: by Wendy (new)

Wendy | 259 comments The scar was there before the Randall incident. We are talking about when he was arrested in his teens, before he went to France and was a mercenary. Then he came back and a while later he met Claire.


message 8: by Cynthia (new)

Cynthia Hanna-Tarantino (ctara) | 309 comments ohhh, hey you guys this girl emailed me and told me there were 8 books in the Outlander series, that Fiery Cross and ABOSAA each had books part 1 and part 2 Is this true? I have never anywhere seen such?


message 9: by Renee (new)

Renee (nightbird) | 334 comments No. There are 6 so far. There's also 'The Outlandish Companion' book. Books 5 and 6 are complete books.


Maybe she meant the companion?






Scar-wise. Wouldn't Randall just coming up from behind make more of a straight scar rather than a triangular? Oh well, maybe I'm obsessing on that. If Claire didn't inquire further it must have been the Lallybroch incident that made it.

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message 10: by Cynthia (new)

Cynthia Hanna-Tarantino (ctara) | 309 comments To me, it would seem difficult to get a triangular scar comining from behind, I would think just a linear scar or a puncture type wound would be possible, especially taking into account that Jamie was a much larger man than Randall?


message 11: by Jenny Lee (new)

Jenny Lee (jennyleemorin) | 1 comments jamie made the scar when he took it from claire (or someone) and dug into his skin to flip out a piece of metal that or it was a burn w/ the tip of a dagger. i can't really remember which


message 12: by Renee (new)

Renee (nightbird) | 334 comments Umm, no. :)

Yes, Cynthia. I don't know how that could have made a triangular unless Randall kind of twisted the tip of the knife.

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message 13: by Cynthia (new)

Cynthia Hanna-Tarantino (ctara) | 309 comments My friend who is with me and looking over my shoulder, tells me that some weapons have a three sided blade. The three sides helped give the dagger strength.


message 14: by Wendy (new)

Wendy | 259 comments Jenny Lee wrote: "jamie made the scar when he took it from claire (or someone) and dug into his skin to flip out a piece of metal that or it was a burn w/ the tip of a dagger. i can't really remember which"

You are thinking about the Wentworth time, when Jamie cut out the burn from the insignia ring.

That is interesting about the three sided blade. I haven't checked into that, but I wanted to know what a Claymore was and researched that. It is a Sword that is about 56" long. That is a yard and a half. They waigh anywhere from 5-8 lbs. A dirk is a small knofe that is carried in a sheath at your side. It is about 6-8" long. Jamie's scar at his throat (the triangle scar) was made by something like a dirk, possibly three sided.


message 15: by Renee (new)

Renee (nightbird) | 334 comments I just had a slap my forehead moment. Reading 'Voyager' DG answers my question the moment after Jamie faints from seeing Claire again. Yes, the triangular scar was made by Jack Randall.

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message 16: by Wendy (new)

Wendy | 259 comments Did she say exactly how he made the scar?


message 17: by Renee (new)

Renee (nightbird) | 334 comments No. It reads: "...It was there, of course, the small triangular scar just above the collarbone, left by the knife of Captain Johnathan Randall, Esquire, of His Majesty's Eighth Dragoons."

And I have to assume it was made when Jamie was taken from Lallybroch because he had it when he met Claire.

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message 18: by Jennifer (new)

Jennifer (jennifertudor) I have a thought about this but I could be way off. I just sort of assumed that the scar was made from the tip of the blade being pushed in sort of on an angle instead of the point right in. Then wouldn't it leave the tip of the blade as a scar in the shape of a triangle?


message 19: by Gam26 (new)

Gam26 | 22 comments Jack Randall gave it to him when he arrested him when he was a teenager. He put the blade to his neck and told Jenny that he would kill jamie if she didn't go into the house with him.


message 20: by Emily (new)

Emily | 18 comments In DIA on page 387 (paperback) when Claire is begging Jamie not to duel with Randall in France, it says "I pulled back with all my strength, but he forced the tip of the blade against the soft hollow above the collarbone, just below the livid cicatrix that Randall's own knife had left there years before."
But I don't remember the original mention of it.


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