Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows
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Lily Potter and Severus Snape
Anna
Jul 14, 2013 02:54PM
What did you think of their relationship? Do you believe what Snape felt for her was truly love or more of an infatuation? Do you think Lily and James mirrored Hermione and Ron? Do you think it was wrong of Lily to not return Snape's love when they were still young? Could it have saved him from becoming a Death Eater? Do you think she just never looked at him that way? Why?
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What did you think of their relationship?
I think they had a potentially great relationship. At some point, though, Severus decided the dark arts and the death eater friends he had made were important. He made some seriously poor decisions with regard to their friendship and she finally had to let him go after he called her a mudblood.
Do you believe what Snape felt for her was truly love or more of an infatuation?
I think Severus grew up in a household where he was never shown a good and healthy example of what love is supposed to be. He was certainly infatuated with her, mildly obsessed because she liked his arch nemesis, and felt like she should just automatically love him because he felt he loved her. He's richly complex and his idea of love and mine are quite different.
Do you think Lily and James mirrored Hermione and Ron?
Interesting question. Maybe it's the opposite of theirs in that James was a show off and a bit of a brute and a "berk" (according to Sirius) and she wasn't interested in him until he started growing up a bit. Ron is the opposite-in the background, overshadowed, a bit thick about women and social graces, and no more of a git than most teenage boys. I'd say not really. They're similar in that they are unlikely at first glance, but the boys are a bit different in personality.
Do you think it was wrong of Lily to not return Snape's love when they were still young?
I think when they were really young, she did love him. He was the first wizard she met and he didn't make her feel freakish when they were together. As they grew older and her expectations changed, his behavior did, too, into something she didn't want or need. It's not wrong to take someone out of your life that is unhealthy for you.
Could it have saved him from becoming a Death Eater?
I don't think so. I think for the first time, Severus felt important because he was really good at the Dark Arts.
Do you think she just never looked at him that way? Why?
Again, I think she loved his as a friend and if he had been more understanding of how things work in relationships, he would have perhaps been someone she would have looked at first. He hurt her, though, so she ended up never looking at him that way. They were pretty young when he hurt her feelings, so I don't think they had matured to that point, yet.
Awesome questions!
What did you think of their relationship?
I think they had a potentially great relationship. At some point, though, Severus decided the dark arts and the death eater friends he had made were important. He made some seriously poor decisions with regard to their friendship and she finally had to let him go after he called her a mudblood.
Do you believe what Snape felt for her was truly love or more of an infatuation?
I think Severus grew up in a household where he was never shown a good and healthy example of what love is supposed to be. He was certainly infatuated with her, mildly obsessed because she liked his arch nemesis, and felt like she should just automatically love him because he felt he loved her. He's richly complex and his idea of love and mine are quite different.
Do you think Lily and James mirrored Hermione and Ron?
Interesting question. Maybe it's the opposite of theirs in that James was a show off and a bit of a brute and a "berk" (according to Sirius) and she wasn't interested in him until he started growing up a bit. Ron is the opposite-in the background, overshadowed, a bit thick about women and social graces, and no more of a git than most teenage boys. I'd say not really. They're similar in that they are unlikely at first glance, but the boys are a bit different in personality.
Do you think it was wrong of Lily to not return Snape's love when they were still young?
I think when they were really young, she did love him. He was the first wizard she met and he didn't make her feel freakish when they were together. As they grew older and her expectations changed, his behavior did, too, into something she didn't want or need. It's not wrong to take someone out of your life that is unhealthy for you.
Could it have saved him from becoming a Death Eater?
I don't think so. I think for the first time, Severus felt important because he was really good at the Dark Arts.
Do you think she just never looked at him that way? Why?
Again, I think she loved his as a friend and if he had been more understanding of how things work in relationships, he would have perhaps been someone she would have looked at first. He hurt her, though, so she ended up never looking at him that way. They were pretty young when he hurt her feelings, so I don't think they had matured to that point, yet.
Awesome questions!
What did you think of their relationship? (And all the Snape/Lily questions)
Personally, I am a big fan of the Snape/Lily ship. I found it to be one of those pure, unrequited childhood loves that always leaves one wondering: "what if...". It is also a very realistic situation that, I feel, many can relate to.
Do you believe what Snape felt for her was truly love or more of an infatuation?
I do believe that it was a mutual affinity that they had for one another. Particularly, from Snape's view (like Jeni mentioned)it was borne from the fact that he finally had someone to relate to, and who showed care and friendship towards him. I do not think it was an infatuation, per se, but his jealousy and possessiveness was borne out of his feelings of loss of Lily when she befriended his "enemies". Since I am a fan of this pair, I do believe that Lily loved Snape the same way he loved her. It's just one of those situations of life where they were a part of very different worlds (socially speaking). Snape was obviously much more devoted to Lily, but her loyalties to other people were much stronger to justify her romantic feelings for Snape. It was probably a classic case of "she loved him, but he's just not 'The One'".
I almost feel like one could be convinced that if given a second chance, both Snape and Lily would reconcile their differences and attempt friendship.. with a lurking affection. ;)
As for if it could have saved him from being a death eater, that's a tough situation to predict. Everything in the book was based heavily around Snape's involvement with Voldemort. If Snape and Lily did end up together, I still think he potentially could have been influenced enough to join "the dark side". Like I said, they were from two different worlds. The chances of their relationship really working out is very unlikely. Outside of their mutual love, they really had little to offer one another.
Do you think Lily and James mirrored Hermione and Ron?
On the contrary, I think Rowling set it up so that James and Lily mirrored Harry and Ginny. Not only in appearances, but in personality traits too. Harry being rebellious like his father, and Ginny being a very talented witch. It's almost as if the psychology of "we end up with our mother/father" was at play here. It may seem far fetched, but again, this is just my opinion. Ron and Hermione are different archetypical characters in the story representing a strong female character not needing to be supported by a male throughout the series (also seen within Ginny). JK Rowling attempted to align the relationships in the story as a kind of strong character meets lesser character... for equality and balance sake. If she had put Harry and Hermione together, for example, that would be a stong power x power relationship and would have ultimately placed Hermione's feministic traits alongside Harry's "chosen destiny". I hope you know what I'm getting at :)
Personally, I am a big fan of the Snape/Lily ship. I found it to be one of those pure, unrequited childhood loves that always leaves one wondering: "what if...". It is also a very realistic situation that, I feel, many can relate to.
Do you believe what Snape felt for her was truly love or more of an infatuation?
I do believe that it was a mutual affinity that they had for one another. Particularly, from Snape's view (like Jeni mentioned)it was borne from the fact that he finally had someone to relate to, and who showed care and friendship towards him. I do not think it was an infatuation, per se, but his jealousy and possessiveness was borne out of his feelings of loss of Lily when she befriended his "enemies". Since I am a fan of this pair, I do believe that Lily loved Snape the same way he loved her. It's just one of those situations of life where they were a part of very different worlds (socially speaking). Snape was obviously much more devoted to Lily, but her loyalties to other people were much stronger to justify her romantic feelings for Snape. It was probably a classic case of "she loved him, but he's just not 'The One'".
I almost feel like one could be convinced that if given a second chance, both Snape and Lily would reconcile their differences and attempt friendship.. with a lurking affection. ;)
As for if it could have saved him from being a death eater, that's a tough situation to predict. Everything in the book was based heavily around Snape's involvement with Voldemort. If Snape and Lily did end up together, I still think he potentially could have been influenced enough to join "the dark side". Like I said, they were from two different worlds. The chances of their relationship really working out is very unlikely. Outside of their mutual love, they really had little to offer one another.
Do you think Lily and James mirrored Hermione and Ron?
On the contrary, I think Rowling set it up so that James and Lily mirrored Harry and Ginny. Not only in appearances, but in personality traits too. Harry being rebellious like his father, and Ginny being a very talented witch. It's almost as if the psychology of "we end up with our mother/father" was at play here. It may seem far fetched, but again, this is just my opinion. Ron and Hermione are different archetypical characters in the story representing a strong female character not needing to be supported by a male throughout the series (also seen within Ginny). JK Rowling attempted to align the relationships in the story as a kind of strong character meets lesser character... for equality and balance sake. If she had put Harry and Hermione together, for example, that would be a stong power x power relationship and would have ultimately placed Hermione's feministic traits alongside Harry's "chosen destiny". I hope you know what I'm getting at :)
Well Lily and James I think were certainly meant to be. If they were mirroring Ron and Hermione I don't know... but I don't think Lily was wrong to not love Snape back. It's not her fault she didn't like him. He was her friend
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Jul 22, 2013 04:11AM
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1. I will support Jily until the end of time. However much Severus wanted to, he and Lily could never have been more than friends.
2. It was infatuation at first, then love, then obsession, then back to love.
3. No. James had a crush on Lily from the start, while Ron and Hermione were constantly arguing.
4. Absolutely not. She never had romantic feelings for him.
5. Maybe. If he had to choose between her and the Dark Arts...hmmmm, I'm not sure!
6. No, she never did.
7. For the last time, she thought of him only as a friend.
2. It was infatuation at first, then love, then obsession, then back to love.
3. No. James had a crush on Lily from the start, while Ron and Hermione were constantly arguing.
4. Absolutely not. She never had romantic feelings for him.
5. Maybe. If he had to choose between her and the Dark Arts...hmmmm, I'm not sure!
6. No, she never did.
7. For the last time, she thought of him only as a friend.
Jeni made some really good points that I agree with. Snape did love Lily as much as he was capable of showing a healthy sort of love. I also think that at one point Lily could have gown to see Severus as a love interest oppose to someone she had to protect. But Snape, at the time they were graduating, didn't want love he wanted power so that he could grow up as someone strong oppose to weak. This caused him to harm the only person who had shown him a healthy love. Lily was a rational girl and fought for him but there were things, such as power, that Snape couldn't let go. In the end Lily found love and security (quite literally her patronus was a doe and James was a deer) with James.
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