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Wow, really? Known racists get arrested for committing crimes while trying to push their political agendas? What a shocker! Get a grip, the only one brainwashed here is you. Fortunately, for every quack you look up to that denies and manipulates the evidence, there are thousands of historians and witnesses to the events that say otherwise.
The Diary of Anne Frank is a book--because that's the form its published in.....And correct. It is non-fiction. Imagine for a brief time being in the situation she was in. Perhaps she DID exaggerate things...but probably because she was a teenager--and wanted a normal life not the horror she was forced into.
when I was in Amsterdam I could not go to her house because I knew I would be sobbing like a baby when I got out. I saw where it was...but that was all I could manage. I read the book when I was twelve and I will never forgot it.
It was so hard for me at the time to realize such a vibrant voice died in such a horrible horrible way
its a book because it has been published and it has information that takes you to the past
Anne Frank DID die of typhus...in a Nazi concentration camp. This has been proven by witnesses and documentations.Anyone who argues this well documented proof would Most Likely be a nazi sympathizer or a holocaust denier.
Since this really is a discussion on a diary or book (however you want to describe it) keep political "truths" (which anyone is entitled to believe no matter how stupid they may sound) to another page and stop spreading anti-semetic hatred. It's really not welcome on this page or anywhere else in Intelligent Society.
Again, this is a page to discuss a book or diary. If you want to believe in Neo-Nazi, Anti-Semetic theologies you are entitled. And the rest of us can believe our truths however they are for us.So keep your political points to another page.
Discuss the book/diary or get the "F" outta here!
What does a Jewish communist under Stalin's regime have to do with Anne Frank?
Odinia I advise you start your own discussion :)
I am open to any discussion I just thought you shouldn't be getting hate for bringing it up on my post; therefore suggesting you make your own discussion specifically about the historical facts.
Don't feed the anti-semitic trolls.
clair wrote: "Will wrote: "clair wrote: "This is because she rewrote many of the parts and exaggerated."Rewrote, yes. Exaggerated, says who? Adding detail does not equate to exaggerating."
True. But just a qu..."
I disagree that she would not have remembered dialogue word for word. After all, she had little else to occupy her mind, she was brilliant, and she was fascinated by the discussions around her. There may be a few times where the wording was not exactly as stated but I am willing to give that it was pretty close to the way it was recorded.
I'd just like to point out that the ball-point pen was first patented in 1888, by one John J. Loud. Not that that is actually relevant to the discussion, I just wanted to pop a very easily verifiable historical fact into the equation.I think when reading the diary we do have to bear in mind that it is just that, a diary. It isn't a staggering piece of literature, it is a teenage girl's personal diary. When considering the import of this book we shouldn't be looking at the writing style, but at the content. I read a review of this book once where the reviewer said they would have given the book five stars if it had a happy ending, but because the reviewer didn't like the ending, they gave it one star. I'm sure when it came right down to it Anne would have liked it to have had a happier ending too.
I agree with the original poster, this should be considered on its merit as a personal account of the horrors and mundanities of war, and if you try to judge it in the same way you'd judge a piece of literary fiction you miss the point.
Some trolls live in Norse cavesOthers in Anne Frank chat rooms
Elizabeth wrote: "I seriously wonder about the emotional depth and intelligence of anyone who complains about this book being "boring"... it says more about them than it does about The Diary of Anne Frank."Agreed!
(Good, if the troll is beyond sick - maybe it'll leave!)
She's going to believe in whatever she likes, I'm sure. I think what makes it most offensive to me is when she resorts to phrases like "provably false" when there's not a single leg to stand on.To imagine the sheer scale of how many people would have to be involved in fabricating something like the Holocaust (photos and films, the tattoos, six million 'missing' Jews, the witnesses, confessed participants, the trials, the concentration camps themselves, reams and reams of documentation, unearthed mass graves, on and on) - and not one squealer among them in eighty years? It boggles the mind to wonder how anyone can refute all of that with anything less than sheer maliciousness as the motive, based on a slim what-if conspiracy theory.
It is scary to know people like Odinia (research the name and what it means) exist and are growing increasingly irrational.
Predatory trolls are exactly that It's hard to smell the roses with your head that far up your own A**
I agree, it may have been published into a book, but only so that people like us could read about the everyday life of a person in Anne's situation. Anne didn't write her diary to impress anyone, she wrote it to voice her thoughts and opinions when she wasn't allowed to talk. We, as the readers should accept that being in hiding isn't fun or extravagant; but should be happy that her time in hiding was as long as it was, otherwise she'd have been put in a concentration camp sooner.
☯Emily wrote: "It is scary to know people like Odinia (research the name and what it means) exist and are growing increasingly irrational."You assume that bigots have any rationale to them at all! We all know they just talk to stir up sh*t and cause malice because their own lives are small, egocentric, insignificant and terribly pathetic. It seems a very unhappy way to live life and wouldn't want to imagine the karma
i am doing a research project on anne frank. and a diary to me is a book
Would that mean a memoir is not a book either?
Jim wrote: "Would that mean a memoir is not a book either?"What the HELL is that?!
I'm 14-years-old
Please, dont´feed the trolls that usually like to run around on this specific book disucussion - they do have a fancy with poor Anne, ataquijg those who are no longer here to defend themselves.Well, i didn´t found it boring: she is so detailed as she virtuallly had nothing better to do,since all of her time was spent locked up in an attic, hidden from the nazis. she became a teenager in those extreme conditions and those were her exact feelings and emotions at the time.
I have read it as 16 and then again now, in my 30´s and i still find it funny, sad, i can relate to her.
I loved The Diary of Anne Frank, and I can't imagine why anyone would be shortsighted enough to criticize it. It's a rare glimpse into a young girl's most private thoughts during one of the darkest periods in human history; there is nothing at all boring about it.
Jim wrote: "Would that mean a memoir is not a book either?"Well in a way. Yes, just like this diary, it would be set out as a book; but you cannot judge memoirs and diaries in the same way you would judge a piece of fiction
I read this book many years ago in elementary school at an age when I could relate to the writer. As an adult, I had the opportunity to travel to Amsterdam and was able to tour the "Anne Frank House" Remembering different bits of her writing and walking through those rooms was a very humbling experience.
Maria wrote: "Please, dont´feed the trolls that usually like to run around on this specific book disucussion - they do have a fancy with poor Anne, ataquijg those who are no longer here to defend themselves.We..."
Why do you find it funny?
Sydney, some messages have been deleted because they were racist comments. That is what the comment is referring to.
This hat isn`t a hat. This cat isn`t a cat. This car isn`t a car. Every tautology that exists is false. A tautology is not a tautology.
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