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Why I don't like this book
100 Reasons Twilight Sucks.1-It is too copied off Jane Austen’s books. I hate that. Although JA also sucks...
2-The actors at the movies SUCK. Why can’t people get that when they’re nominated twice at the Razzies?
3-Bella is strange. She has no sense of sarcasm, which makes the book duller, and her sense of humor is that of an ape.
4-The werewolves' and vampires' insulsts to each other are so lame they're actually funny.
5-Twilight fans are all for dying for true love.
6-It encourages getting obsessed with your boyfriend, early marriage for no good reason, and suicide for true love.
7-It is so cliché.
8-Stephanie Meyer sounds like a Buffy the Vampire Slayer teenage fan who writes her first fan fiction.
9-Jacob is so stupid, and all of his stupid little girly gang. Why does it have to be a pack? Just go on your own, freaks. Throw yourselves off the cliff and never come back.
10-Why would Bella try throwing herself off the cliff out of pure boredom? If you’re bored, Bella, smack your head against the wall.
11-Why the heck would you get depressed over a dork leaving town? Oh, that’s right...
12-Bella has no self-worth. She relies on someone for having it.
13-Jasper is emo. There’s no question about that.
14-Why would Emmet get mauled by a bear? He should’ve been responsible.
15-Carlisle should let them die. Death is better than killing others for your survival.
16-They are straight out of the madhouse.
17-Twilight should belong in an unknown fanfic page or SM’s personal blog where it cannot stain the good names of literature.
18-I hate how they compare the best literary examples such as Shakespeare and Emily Bronte to that piece of junk.
19-Rosalie should’ve known to run and call the police if her fiancée was drunk with a bunch of threatening looking strangers.
20-If Alice saw the future when she was human, she should’ve lived with it and let it go unknown rather than get sent to the nutcase house.
21-Esme shouldn’t have tried to kill herself. For heaven’s sake, he’s in Heaven, and she can have more children! Or at least visit a shrink. Jeez.
22-Bella literally kisses the ground Edward walks on. But he’s a person just like anyone else!
23-Bella should lock herself in a rubber room. Those hallucinations aren’t magic Bella...they’re your own emo brain.
24-Edward should’ve followed Carlisle instead of throwing himself at others, yes, even murderers.
25-SM has terrible taste in music.
26-Vampire life should at least have a price. Living life with nothing that can kill you seems terrible.
27-Edward is a stalker. How can he watch her sleep and enjoy it?
28-Bella’s plain. No boys like plain.
29-I understand Jessica has a point. Bella became way too involved with Edward.
30-How can Mike fall in love with the new, plain, albino freak who only talks to people when she needs it?
31-There is no high-school drama at Bella’s school, but SM makes it sound like it.
32-Jacob is overly childish and creepy.
33-Victoria too.
34-James too.
35-Laurent too.
36-Everyone in the book.
37-I think the books were overpriced.
38-Why would vampires sparkle? If SM’s intention had been to match hunter with prey, then it was an enormous fail.
39-The Volturi are weirdos.
40-In New Moon Bella says “he sucked the poison out. Like with a rattlesnake.” And that’s NOT safe, good for either, or recommended.
41-I love Vampires Suck.
42-SM doesn’t deserve to be an author.
43-Thank to novels like that, people that don’t like to read think all novels are like that. CRETINS.
44-She gave bad publicity for the beautiful country of Italy.
45-She encourages grand theft auto.
46-Why does Edward have to be rich? Why not poor to twist it up?
47-Carlisle says he has respect for HUMAN life, although he contradicts himself by turning the freaky teens into vamps.
48-If Bella screams in her sleep, Charlie, force her into a sleep clinic.
49-Why would Bella hide in the mountains while a war raged downstairs? Run away to San Diego.
50-I’m sick of superfast and super strong heroes.
51-Bella’s a
52-Leah is obsessed with Sam. Again, just like Bella.
53-How can Seth live with that sister?
54-Sam should throw himself off a cliff into sharp rocks, not the sea.
55-Bella’s jokes are lame.
56-Edward’s not only incredibly pessimistic (which most girls hate in boys) but utterly dramatic (which is only acceptable in girls.)
57-Reneésme is a horrible name. Girls are going to think she’s like Stargirl. No, Stargirl’s much better that her.
58-Anyone can be a vampire if they’re gross enough.
59-Victoria is too indiscrete with Riley.
60-Riley is stupid.
61-All of them dorks.
62-When Edward took his shirt off at the square; I can qualify him as********.
63-Bella thinks she’s smarter than the rest of her classmates when she’s the idiot that FELL IN LOVE WITH A VAMP.
64-If Bella wants money for college, why doesn’t she apply for a scholarship?
65-It’s sick that Bella stayed in the forest after Edward left. Little attention-seeking leech.
66-I want to strangle SM for adding the superpower thing. I hate it.
67-I hate Jasper has no sense of humor.
68-Emmet is a
69-Angela shouldn’t be “perfect”.
70-Getting pregnant at 18 risks your life.
71-The Cullens hunt endangered animals such as grizzlies and want hunt jaguars.
72-I hate Reneésme grows quickly.
73-If she’s so smart, why doesn’t she run away from her manic family of idiots?
74-There’s no good reason werewolves should imprint.
75-Good web pages like Wattpad and Quizzilla (strike that—Quizzilla has never been a good webpage) have been stained by the black ink of Twilight.
76-Twilight is my favorite time of day. Now I’ve had to change it because people think I’m Twilight-obsessed.
77-Fanfiction has become a dark branch of literature now.
78-Bella’s so stupid. She makes raising a child sound like a piece of cake.
79-Charlie has no brains.
80-Neither does Bella, which is why Edward can’t read her mind.
81-Werewolves don’t have to mentally read their minds.
82-Why the @#!*% does SM make them heal fast?
83-Why does Jacob run away? Can’t he just say NO to the invitation?
84-Bella ditches math to walk through a meadow just to bring bad memories.
85-Charlie should recognize his daughter’s insanity.
86-I might have reported Renee to the police for passing on insanity to her daughter.
87-How original, two impossible lovers.
88-How original, a love triangle.
89-Nothing’s original!
90-My brother says Twilight should be better than the Hunger Games or Narnia because they’re bigger. Well, guess what, bro? They’re better to whack your head with, as you have already learned.
91-There is no action in the book. In the first book the only highlight is the fight in Phoenix. In the second one...nothing. In the third one she actually skipped the fight. In the fourth one...again, nothing.
92-I am not giving in to the “but they’re in love!” explanation to “why are they so stupid?”
93-Jacob’s names for chapters are a disgrace to teen humor.
94-If SM writes Midnight Sun ...wait, she never will, because she said she would write it when everyone forgot about it, which is literally impossible because they’ve attacked teen romance, wounded cinematography, and hijacked the whole world with idiocies.
95-Laurent isn’t proactive.
96-Why does Bella have to have a hissy personality? Boys hate that.
97-That’s right...Edward counts as a girl.
98-SM should’ve twisted the thing up by making Charlie a drunkard who doesn’t care about Bella.
99-Everyone agrees with me, but even so...
100-I HATE TWILIGHT.
Josephine wrote: "100 Reasons Twilight Sucks.1-It is too copied off Jane Austen’s books. I hate that. Although JA also sucks...
2-The actors at the movies SUCK. Why can’t people get that when they’re nominated ..."
lol this is pretty funny:) people who LOVE twilight didnt think THIS hard about the book!! u must hate twilight with a passion!
Yeah the acting is really bad it makes me cringe.
Josephine wrote: "100 Reasons Twilight Sucks."
Wow....I could not imagine how you felt during reading the book. It must be miserable...and imagining the torment for finishing it....
I like book 1 but got bored with the sequels and hated Jacob's part so much, but I don't think I can compare my feeling with u...
Btw...I don't think any of the Twilighters care about any bad comments about the series. By the coming of Breaking Dawn, more and more people (teenagers) buy the books...
Nurlely wrote: "Josephine wrote: "100 Reasons Twilight Sucks."
Wow....I could not imagine how you felt during reading the book. It must be miserable...and imagining the torment for finishing it....
I like book ..."
Man I didn't even read the Jacob part haha. I read this book at 16, when I didn't know who I was. The only thing I can say about these books is that Bella is a terrible role model for teens so this book should have been written for adults who are able to separate themselves from the characters.
My boyfriend cheated one me, brb gonna spin on a chair for 6 months.
To Kaye - as long as you are able to see things from both ways that's ok, and your not all that bad, there is good in everyone, some people just have to dig sometimes. :) And everyone (with everyone i mean females) has those days where the say things they don't mean all because of hormones. and thank you that's a nice compliment! :D
To Josephine - don't you think 100 is a bit dramatic??
Yeah. My mom has warned me many times that if anyone sneaks into my house and stalks me, then to definetly not fall in love with them. Bella and her dad are idiots.
Your mom sounds like a sensible woman. :)
Josephine wrote: "100 Reasons Twilight Sucks.1-It is too copied off Jane Austen’s books. I hate that. Although JA also sucks...
2-The actors at the movies SUCK. Why can’t people get that when they’re nominated ..."
I could not have said it any better. Everything is extremely true. I could have continued the list for a lot longer. The books are really horrible. I honestly do not understand people's obsession with it. How on earth could someone fall in love with a person who stalked them??...I really don't know. The books practically encourage teen pregnancy and getting married extremely young. That is my opinion, i'm sure twilight fans disagree with me. But ooh well.
ooh, jacob's part. God, that was terrible. The chapter titles....how on earth did she come up with them. His part was really poorly written. One of the worst, if not the worst part of the book.
13-Jasper is emo. There’s no question about that. 27-Edward is a stalker. How can he watch her sleep and enjoy it?
39-The Volturi are weirdos.
51-Bella’s a perv weirdo.
53-How can Seth live with that sister
79-Charlie has no brains.
80-Neither does Bella, which is why Edward can’t read her mind.
Josephine - some of favourites! :)
Hilarious.
Delia wrote: "Man I didn't even read the Jacob part haha. I read this book at 16, when I didn't know who I was. The only thing I can say about these books is that Bella is a terrible role model for teens so this book should have been written for adults who are able to separate themselves from the characters."Hahaha....I simply picture Bella as a girl who was madly in love with a gorgeous vampire but still set her eyes to her good friend. I do not think there is anything special about her. Extending her power as a vampire is a bit weird. With that power, Stephenie should have made Bella something else, not a vampire with a developing skill.
It was Edward who captured my eyes, and Jasper, not Bella.
Josephine wrote: "100 Reasons Twilight Sucks.1-It is too copied off Jane Austen’s books. I hate that. Although JA also sucks...
2-The actors at the movies SUCK. Why can’t people get that when they’re nominated ..."
Ha Ha great i totaly agree
To Josephine: i salute you!
Nurlely wrote: "Delia wrote: "Man I didn't even read the Jacob part haha. I read this book at 16, when I didn't know who I was. The only thing I can say about these books is that Bella is a terrible role model for..."For me it was Alice. She was the most real (&realistic) to me.
Kelsey wrote: "Josephine wrote: "100 Reasons Twilight Sucks.1-It is too copied off Jane Austen’s books. I hate that. Although JA also sucks...
2-The actors at the movies SUCK. Why can’t people get that when..."
So when I see this http://www.goodreads.com/list/show/1.... it makes me think about you. And it drives me insane that Twilight is first... JANE AUSTEN & STEINBECK & BRONTE & ORWELL come after. Harry potter is second (I don't like Harry potter). Holy ... it drives me nuts.
1. Bella2. Depressed
3. Bella
4. Vampires and Werewolves
need i continue?
Delia wrote: "For me it was Alice. She was the most real (&realistic) to me. "Alice is also Stephenie's invention. A vampire that can see future. I don't see anything realistic about her as vampire Or perhaps you meant being realistic in a different way.
Vanessa wrote: "Kelsey wrote: "I understand that it is well written, but why does Bella have to be all depressed and trying to kill herself just to hear his voice? Sorry for all of you people who are obsessed... :..."Yeah that's definitely not healthy... She should see someone about that
Nurlely wrote: "Delia wrote: "For me it was Alice. She was the most real (&realistic) to me. "Alice is also Stephenie's invention. A vampire that can see future. I don't see anything realistic about her as vampi..."
Yeah I meant her personality ;) Can we really talk about something being realistic when it comes to vampires? They aren't real. I was referring to her personality which seems the most human out of all of them.
vampires rnt real ur right thery a stupid fictional charter
Have you ever had to choose between two people? It is absolutely heartwrenching, even if you are not madly in love. What if you choose the wrong one? Can you trust yourself enough to make the right decision? To me, this is absolutely realistic because I have been there. Have you ever been clinically depressed? There can be triggers to depression - the loss of a loved one, school, birth, etc. Many readers feel as though Bella's depression makes her weak and stupid. This is a narrow view. Again, I have been there and it is almost impossible to come up out of on your own. Somtimes it is about "fake it until you make it". That is what Bella was doing - her relationship with Jacob is the result. Edward says it best when he tells Bella that what he did left wounds and when Jacob put her back together he became a part of her. Then, there are the comments about Jacob and why doesn't he just move on. Have you ever loved someone that did not love you back? It happens, believe me. Now, about Edward's behavior - you can't really compare him to human boys. You are right, if someone I dated when I was teen snuck in my house without an invite and watched me sleep or was so overprotective I couldn't go anywhere alone, my parents would have called the police. But Edward is not human, he is a vampire. His culture, beliefs, actions are all different. You can't compare him to other boys. If you do, you will never be satisfied with books.The books are fiction - not real. Love like that doesn't happen, there are no men like Edward. Open yourself up to the fantasy and maybe you will learn something new! :-)
Amy wrote: "Have you ever had to choose between two people? It is absolutely heartwrenching, even if you are not madly in love. What if you choose the wrong one? Can you trust yourself enough to make the right..."If you're torn between two people, pick the second one. I personally don't think you'd have fallen for the second person if you truly loved the first one. Or maybe you did love him, and you've hallen out of love. Either way, pick the second or pick none.
Disclaimer; this is my own opinion and experience, since I already know people will jump at my throat to tell me I'm wrong.
i agree... this makes sense...
Delia - good answer! Of course, when I found myself in that situation, the reality was that neither one was right!
Oh, how I hated these books. Read them to see what the fuss was about and disliked Bella from the beginning. She has no personality, there is literally nothing interesting about this character. She's depressed(ing) all the time. She appears to have no hobbies other than obssessing about her boyfriend (ex through this particular book).More than anything my objection to this book was that it is mostly aimed at teenage girls. Holy crap! Do not think it would be possible to send a worse message to young females than this book did. Bella has zero self worth, her life revolves around her boyfriend without whom she may as well kill herself. Really?!
The fight she gets in that Edward turns around and makes her fault actually made me throw the book down and yell at it. Cannot express my dislike enough.
ew Bella is so clingy in this one she cant even act properly it just ruins the movie
Charlotte wrote: "ew Bella is so clingy in this one she cant even act properly it just ruins the movie"I suppose you meant that Kristen can't act properly.
Kristen is a suitable as Bella. But it is true that there is nothing special about New Moon. They all acted averagely, except for Michael Sheen. He played Aro excellently.
I think that the role of Bella is great because its different. If you think about it, and compare her roll in the twilight saga, to any other Vampire novel; not only is the book so unique in itself but so is the characters, esp bella. My advise, dont judge Bella Swan until you read about her roll in breaking dawn, it may change ur mind.
"Love like that doesn't happen, there are no men like Edward."Thank GOD!
Amanda wrote: "I think that the role of Bella is great because its different. If you think about it, and compare her roll in the twilight saga, to any other Vampire novel; not only is the book so unique in itself..."She is said to play well in BD, but I don't think she did it well in the previous movies. There was nothing special about Kristen playing Bella, just like others (exc. Michael Sheen). I like Rpatz, but he did his role averagely.
Cross my fingers for Breaking Dawn...:)
Kelsey wrote: "vampires rnt real ur right thery a stupid fictional charter"Thank you very much Kelsey!!!!! I've been trying to tell my friend that but she insists edward is real
Josephine wrote: "100 Reasons Twilight Sucks.1-It is too copied off Jane Austen’s books. I hate that. Although JA also sucks...
2-The actors at the movies SUCK. Why can’t people get that when they’re nominated ..."
In response to number 39, i would just like to say the volturi are the best part!!!!!!!!!
Nurlely wrote: "Amanda wrote: "I think that the role of Bella is great because its different. If you think about it, and compare her roll in the twilight saga, to any other Vampire novel; not only is the book so u..."I agree, But according to SM K. Stew played the part perfectly. Who are we to judge if the author is so happy with the performance of her own character lol
I understand that the relationship is unhealthy, but c'mon a few of us have been there before, i know i have. That teenage feeling of "my life cannot go on because he left me while eating a tub of ice cream and watching the notebook." be honest...
twilights stupid.
i didn't like this book because it was so deppressing. she was soo pathetic. 'How Bella Sucks Without Edward' would have been a good name. Or maybe 'Bella is Suicidal When She Doesn't Have a Mythical Monster Boyfriend' OOH That's a good one!
Sophie wrote: "i didn't like this book because it was so deppressing. she was soo pathetic. 'How Bella Sucks Without Edward' would have been a good name. Or maybe 'Bella is Suicidal When She Doesn't Have a Mythic..."what u just said is my favourite comment on twilight so far
im in shock to kno how many people dislike twilight lol..Twihards where u at???
Amanda wrote: "I understand that the relationship is unhealthy, but c'mon a few of us have been there before, i know i have. That teenage feeling of "my life cannot go on because he left me while eating a tub of..."Yeah, but she didn't eat ice cream and watch the notebook. No, she jumped off of cliffs and started getting on random dudes' motorcycles because they reminded her of guys THAT TRIED TO RAPE HER!
Sophie wrote: "Amanda wrote: "I understand that the relationship is unhealthy, but c'mon a few of us have been there before, i know i have. That teenage feeling of "my life cannot go on because he left me while ..."Very true and i see ur point but i got butterflies everytime she saw his face :)
I did too! I also felt her pain when he dumped her.
Amanda wrote: "I agree, But according to SM K. Stew played the part perfectly. Who are we to judge if the author is so happy with the performance of her own character lol"Your opinion is interesting. Do you think if Stephenie Meyer is unsatisfied with the acting, she will speak out loud? It will not give her any good outcome.
Surely we are to judge, or much better, all the critics behind the rewards.
I have not yet said anything about the acting quality of actors in Breaking Dawn, but for the previous movies. If you read my comment carefully, you will know that...
Josephine wrote: "100 Reasons Twilight Sucks.1-It is too copied off Jane Austen’s books. I hate that. Although JA also sucks...
2-The actors at the movies SUCK. Why can’t people get that when they’re nominated ..."
it's a sane person yay!
Nurlely wrote: "I read Twilight simply because it is a vampire story. However, it is rather disappointing though with that glittering skin under the sun part. Terrible ending. My best vamp is Eric from Sookie Stac..."Eric is HOT in the books and the show.
I think SM was trying to do a whole Romeo&Juliet thing w/ New Moon, where he thinks she killed herself, so he's going to kill himself... but of course with a happier ending and 2 sequels.
Lena
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Nikkei wrote: "That's why the books are so good! They're dark and passionate and don't follow the fairytales that kids read when they're young. Most teenage girls can relate to having a crush over some teenage bo..."I liked them. To me, they were fun, light reads. It made me remember that fist love as a teen. The love that makes you do stupid things. I agree that Bella is an annoying character, but you have to take the good with the bad. At least she elicits a response, albeit a negative one. I wasn't indifferent to her. I also found Edward's view on sex completely unbelievable. Isn't he suppose to be forever a teenage boy? I can't think of any teenage boy that wouldn't take every opportunity to get into someone's pants, especially when a girl is throwing themselves at him like Bella was. For this reason, I found the religious overtones annoying. But Jacob was great as was Alice. Even though several aspects of the books bothered me, I still ate them up. They are a guilty pleasure, and there's nothing wrong with that.
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When you are so deeply in love with someone it's like a drug it blinds you from commonn sense. And she was so madly in love with him when he left it ripped her heart out and she couldn't deal being alone. But he was just trying to protect her; she is such a gentleman.