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Amen to that, sister, amen to that! I always have to edit a posting.
Lily wrote: "P.S. What happened to the other threads on Zola? I went back to look for something and couldn't find them."Lily, the tentative date is August 01. I am going to post the reading schedule either tomorrow or on Tuesday.
We have not yet launched this massive reading undertaking, so patience, sister :-)
Zulfiya wrote: "...We have not yet launched this massive reading undertaking, so patience, sister :-) ..."Zulfiya -- no hurry! Lots in my current reading. See my P.S.S. @71 for what I was searching. I found it.
Elizabeth (Alaska) wrote: "What if we set up Zola: A Biography by Frederick Brown as a buddy read?"It sounds like an interesting idea, Elizabeth (Alaska). As soon as we start the project and see how successful it is, the participants then decide when and how to have this buddy read.
HelloI signed up today, after being told about this reading Project in the Zola Yahoo discussion group, and would like to greet the group.
My name is Joao Pedro Baptista, I am portuguese and live in Lisbon.
I am a great lover of French literature and, of course, of Zola.
On August 2011 I started to read the whole Rougon-Macquart cycle, following the
order proposed by Vizetelly (much to prefer to the publication order), and I finished last September.
I would like very much to contribute to discussions, although english is not my native language which makes it a little more difficult. I can see some members can read french; so, if you consider acceptable, I may write in french sometimes, if I find it easier to express myself.
Joao Pedro Baptista
Jack wrote: "I've seen Zola's recommended reason order referenced several times. Can anyone give a link to where he talks about this. English preferred, but French manageable. Merci in advance.
Jack"
The recommended order comes from Ernest Vizetelly, who writes about it in "Émile Zola novelist and reformer - an account of his life & work. You can download book here: http://archive.org/details/milezolano...
He states that the order was indicated by Zola himself in "Le Docteur Pascal" and confirmed by word of mouth to him. I refer you to page 349.
I have already read all the series and I think it is much to prefer to the publication order.
Dagny wrote: "Joao wrote: "HelloHi, Joao Pedro! Glad you came over here to join us.
I see you did finish. I have read 19 of them with Son Excellence Eugène Rougon being the only one I've missed so far.
Hello!
Thanks for your welcome! Indeed I finished the whole series and it was one of the most gratifying reading experiences of my adult life.
I am now looking forward to start reading "Les Trois Villes" ("Lourdes", "Rome" and "Paris") series and, after that, "Les Quatre Évangiles" ("Fécondité", "Travail", "Vérité" and "Justice"), which are a cycle on their own.
I urge you to read "Son Excellence Eugène Rougon" and finish the work!
Here is an interesting article about Zola translations, particularly about the Lutetian society. But it also includes a paragraph (or two, I'm still reading) that Vizetelly was incarcerated for having published some Zola translations - translations that violated the law.http://www.erudit.org/revue/ttr/2003/...
Elizabeth (Alaska) wrote: "Here is an interesting article about Zola translations, particularly about the Lutetian society. But it also includes a paragraph (or two, I'm still reading) that Vizetelly was incarcerated for hav..."Thanks for the post on that article. Very interesting. Although, it makes me yearn for those translations rather than Vizetelly's.
Dagny wrote: "This is a small site with general information on the Rougon-Macquart novels. It was never completed, but has some interesting information.http://emilezola.info/index.htm"
Wow, that's a huge undertaking for one reader!
I knew this would be fun. It's great how everyone is gathering and sharing their resources and how much conversation has been generated before kickoff. I received my copy of Frederick Brown's "Zola A Life" the other day. It's making sure my coffee table doesn't float up into space.
Ron wrote: "Frederick Brown's "Zola A Life" the other day. It's making sure my coffee table doesn't float up into space. "Isn't that the truth! I couldn't wait, but I haven't been reading much - a few pages at a time and am not yet to chapter 3.
It's so well-written - here is a taste, where Brown is talking about Zola's boyhood friendship with Paul Cezanne and Jean-Baptiste Baille:
When game season came they packed guns, though no one among them could shoot straight and least of all Emile, who discovered at sixteen from not being able to read public notices how myopic he was. Their pleasure lay rather in the jaunt through lavender and gorse, in the expectant quiet of the hunter's blind, the crunch of chalk dust underfoot, the mutton roasted on a spit, the poems unfit for academic consumption of Hugo and Musset, which they declaimed to one another. Night would often overtake them before they saw Aix again and reduce Mont Saint-Victoire to a spectral presence; its great limestone crop kept constant watch over the vagabonds, aligning and crowning every point of view."
Wow! Thanks for the Amazon heads up! I haven't found the whole saga in either Spanish or English, and I'm considering getting the French Amazon ebooks, considering the price, even if my level of French is A2!
By the way, where is this reading project to be discussed?
María of Spain wrote: "By the way, where is this reading project to be discussed?"Hello, Maria. This very folder contains threads for weekly/biweekly discussion for the first novel.
if you are looking for the English edition, Gutenberg.org could be quite helpful. http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/5135
María of Spain wrote: "Wow! Thanks for the Amazon heads up! I haven't found the whole saga in either Spanish or English, and I'm considering getting the French Amazon ebooks, considering the price, even if my level of Fr..."¡Hola, María! Amazon has the first novel in the series, and a couple more, in Spanish for €0,89 if you have a Kindle. I can't see the whole series, though.
Here's the link for La Fortuna de los Rougon: http://www.amazon.es/fortuna-los-Roug...
Zulfiya wrote: "María of Spain wrote: "By the way, where is this reading project to be discussed?"Hello, Maria. This very folder contains threads for weekly/biweekly discussion for the first novel.
if you are ..."
Thank you!
That is interesting, Dagny. I thought I saw John Stirling as one of the translators in the Delphi collection, but I'd have to look again.
Hello everyone,I see there is some interest in getting the whole series on Amazon in English. My way of getting around the dilemma of them not having a specified series was by purchasing the "Delphi Complete Works of Emile Zola (Illustrated)" for my kindle. This work contains the 20 books in question listed together along with his other works for $2.99.
I can't say if any of them are more recent translations, but it seems to be a good source of all the books in English for a rather low price .
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00A...
Hope this helps!
The Readers Review: Literature from 1714 to 1910
Books mentioned in this topic
Zola: A Life (other topics)Le Docteur Pascal (other topics)
Le Docteur Pascal (other topics)
The Fortune of the Rougons (other topics)
The Fortune of the Rougons (other topics)
;-) I don't keep track!
P.S. What happened to the other threads on Zola? I went back to look for something and couldn't find them.
P.S.S. Found: "The Roman Fleuve (the river-novel/novel sequence)." That, not this thread, is where there was already a reference to Le Docteur Pascal as the source for Zola's recommended reading order. Like your message 65, it was a secondary reference through Wiki.