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Jordan Lombard (jslombard) | 15348 comments Mod
Candice wrote: "Been away for awhile; checking in for some good recs. Note much talk re audiobooks of which I can never get enough. I am picky and rarely enjoy a romance as the whole story.

I've heard that audibl..."


I think part of the problem is that audiobooks are so expensive to produce.


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Josh (joshlanyon) | 23709 comments Mod
Candice wrote: "Been away for awhile; checking in for some good recs. Note much talk re audiobooks of which I can never get enough. I am picky and rarely enjoy a romance as the whole story.

I've heard that audibl..."


I'm a little confused. Are these authors who previously did royalty shares or something? Audible does not charge a fee. They do take 60% of your earnings--75% if you refuse to be exclusive to them.

The cost of an audio book comes into play if you pay a narrator to produce your book rather than find someone to do a royalty share. With one exception (which I now regret) I've always paid up front for my audio projects -- which is expensive, no question.

Where they might be running into a problem--and this will likely become a greater and greater problem--is the romance subscription package. That means it takes longer and longer for books to earn out, which means fewer narrators want to take a risk on royalty share projects--and fewer authors want to invest large sums of money in a book that might take over a year to earn out.


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Candice Frook (cefrook) | 374 comments I see. No doubt thats my confusion. But that clarifies it for me and makes perfect sense. The autbor wd haveto have a clear indication of a lot of buyers right?


message 14854: by Josh (new)

Josh (joshlanyon) | 23709 comments Mod
Candice wrote: "I see. No doubt thats my confusion. But that clarifies it for me and makes perfect sense. The autbor wd haveto have a clear indication of a lot of buyers right?"

Yes. OR have a very healthy budget for projects that might not earn out. ;-D


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Josh (joshlanyon) | 23709 comments Mod
At this point Audible has such a huge library of material they don't have to concern themselves with indie authors being able to afford to produce books.


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Antonella | 11565 comments ((I was strongly tempted to write this in capital letters ;-))


«The Counterfeit Viscount» is the new novella by Ginn Hale, out in October, set in the world of Wicked Gentlemen.

You can read the first chapter here:

http://ginn-hale-tyzt.squarespace.com...


message 14857: by KC (new)

KC | 4897 comments Antonella wrote: "((I was strongly tempted to write this in capital letters ;-))


«The Counterfeit Viscount» is the new novella by Ginn Hale, out in October, set in the world of [book:Wicked Gentlem..."


Awesomeness!!! :-)


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Jordan Lombard (jslombard) | 15348 comments Mod
Antonella wrote: "((I was strongly tempted to write this in capital letters ;-))


«The Counterfeit Viscount» is the new novella by Ginn Hale, out in October, set in the world of [book:Wicked Gentlem..."


THANKS!!!

I'm actually going to finally start her other books soon that have been sitting on my coffee table for years. Can't believe I've let them languish so long!


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Johanna | 18130 comments Mod
Antonella wrote: "((I was strongly tempted to write this in capital letters ;-))


«The Counterfeit Viscount» is the new novella by Ginn Hale, out in October, set in the world of [book:Wicked Gentlem..."


WOO HOO! ;-)


message 14860: by Alison (last edited Sep 27, 2018 07:52AM) (new)

Alison | 4756 comments Antonella wrote: "((I was strongly tempted to write this in capital letters ;-))


«The Counterfeit Viscount» is the new novella by Ginn Hale, out in October, set in the world of [book:Wicked Gentlem..."


EEEEE! Good news! Thank you. :)

Just remembered--that's in that new awesome anthology, which I haven't pre-ordered yet. :)


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Alison | 4756 comments I've finished Connie Willis' To Say Nothing of the Dog, and it was fantastic. It's not a queer romance, but it's awesome. It's a time travel adventure with a het romance subplot and it's very funny. It's mostly takes place in the Oxford area in 2057 and 1888. I absolutely loved it and I'm looking forward to reading more by this author.

This calls for a Professor Elemental tune (or, rather, the first time travel song that comes to mind!):

The Inn at the End of Time by Professor Elemental
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VgQP...


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Susinok | 5205 comments Alison wrote: "I've finished Connie Willis' To Say Nothing of the Dog, and it was fantastic. It's not a queer romance, but it's awesome. It's a time travel adventure with a het romance subplot and it..."

The Doomsday Book by Connie Willis is also time travel, but that one goes back to the time of the Plague in England. It is not a happy, light hearted book. Head's up. But it IS excellent.


message 14863: by Alison (new)

Alison | 4756 comments Susinok wrote: "Alison wrote: "I've finished Connie Willis' To Say Nothing of the Dog, and it was fantastic. It's not a queer romance, but it's awesome. It's a time travel adventure with a het romance..."

Thanks for the heads up.


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SamSpayedPI | 596 comments Alison wrote: "I've finished Connie Willis' To Say Nothing of the Dog, and it was fantastic. It's not a queer romance, but it's awesome. It's a time travel adventure with a het romance subplot and it..."

I loved it too, nearly as much as Three Men in a Boat.


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Alison | 4756 comments SamSpayedPI wrote: "Alison wrote: "I've finished Connie Willis' To Say Nothing of the Dog, and it was fantastic. It's not a queer romance, but it's awesome. It's a time travel adventure with a het romance...

I loved it too, nearly as much as Three Men in a Boat."


Which I've been meaning to read for so many years...
I've even gotten it from the library more than once and didn't get to it. It sounds like just my sort of thing.


message 14866: by KC (new)

KC | 4897 comments I'm trying a new-to-me (possibly...) author, Lawrence Sanders, McNally's Secret (mystery). So far, so good.


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KC | 4897 comments Alison wrote: "SamSpayedPI wrote: "Alison wrote: "I've finished Connie Willis' To Say Nothing of the Dog, and it was fantastic. It's not a queer romance, but it's awesome. It's a time travel adventur..."

I remember really enjoying Three Men in a Boat. So when you get to it, enjoy! :-)


message 14868: by SamSpayedPI (last edited Sep 28, 2018 04:46PM) (new)

SamSpayedPI | 596 comments Alison wrote: "Which I've been meaning to read for so many years...
I've even gotten it from the library more than once and didn't get to it. It sounds like just my sort of thing. "


If you're in the U.S., you can probably get it for free on Kindle or Project Gutenberg. Anything copyrighted in the U.S. prior to January 1, 1923 had a 75-year limit. Even if the U.K. copyright hasn't expired, it would still be public domain in the U.S.


message 14869: by Antonella (new)

Antonella | 11565 comments SamSpayedPI wrote: "If you're in the U.S., you can probably get it for free on Kindle or Project Gutenberg."

Even if you are not in the US you can get Three Men in a Boat for free in different formats:

http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/308

Me too I've reread it and loved it as an adult.


message 14870: by Alison (new)

Alison | 4756 comments Antonella wrote: "SamSpayedPI wrote: "If you're in the U.S., you can probably get it for free on Kindle or Project Gutenberg."

Even if you are not in the US you can get Three Men in a Boat for free in d..."


Thanks, Antonella. Good old Project Gutenberg.


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WMD | 251 comments I am sure its not new to many of you, but I just finished the Chaos Station series by Jenn Burke and Kelly Jensen. Science fiction, planet hopping space travelers with a hint of the Firefly series underlying it. Likable set of central characters. I liked it very much, it has a distinct mm romance theme among politics, mystery and ship life. It doesn't take itself too seriously (even thousands of years from now, after a devastating human-alien war, life can have ridiculous moments) and explored worlds, and variations in human and alien culture.


message 14872: by Jordan (new)

Jordan Lombard (jslombard) | 15348 comments Mod
I’ve heard of Chaos Station, probably bought it for the library, but haven’t read it myself. This sounds good though. Thanks for the rec!


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KC | 4897 comments Finished One-Eyed Royals. These books are sooooo good! Now eagerly awaiting the next one.


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Calathea | 6034 comments KC wrote: "Finished One-Eyed Royals. These books are sooooo good! Now eagerly awaiting the next one."

That! Especially that: "These books are sooooo good! " And I'd like to add several exclamation marks!!!!! :-D


message 14875: by Anne (new)

Anne | 6816 comments Jordan wrote: "I’ve heard of Chaos Station, probably bought it for the library, but haven’t read it myself. This sounds good though. Thanks for the rec!"

I second the recommendation! I enjoyed the series very much.


message 14876: by Antonella (new)

Antonella | 11565 comments I don't want any more recs, especially not for series! ;-)


message 14877: by Antonella (new)

Antonella | 11565 comments I've just read Something Human Something Human by A.J. Demas and I loved it.

Please notice that I usually don't like historical set in a too far past...


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SamSpayedPI | 596 comments I'm reading The Mystery of the Moving Image by C.S. Poe. Disbelief is not suspended. There's no way, given an antique Kinetoscope and an original film, that anyone who cared anything about antiquities would have threaded it through and watched it without consulting the Library of Congress or at least a museum or something.

And what, Sebastian just plugs it into a modern electrical outlet?


message 14879: by SamSpayedPI (last edited Oct 02, 2018 06:53AM) (new)

SamSpayedPI | 596 comments Barbra wrote: "Other than that, how is it? ;-) "

Disbelief is still not suspended.

Now Sebastian (view spoiler)


message 14880: by Josh (new)

Josh (joshlanyon) | 23709 comments Mod
Antonella wrote: "((I was strongly tempted to write this in capital letters ;-))


«The Counterfeit Viscount» is the new novella by Ginn Hale, out in October, set in the world of [book:Wicked Gentlem..."


OH MY GOD!!!!

I'll do the all caps for you because that is BRILLIANT news.


message 14881: by Josh (new)

Josh (joshlanyon) | 23709 comments Mod
Alison wrote: "I've finished Connie Willis' To Say Nothing of the Dog, and it was fantastic. It's not a queer romance, but it's awesome. It's a time travel adventure with a het romance subplot and it..."

I don't usually go for time travel, but the title alone got me--just ordered through Audible. :-)


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Josh (joshlanyon) | 23709 comments Mod
SamSpayedPI wrote: "Alison wrote: "I've finished Connie Willis' To Say Nothing of the Dog, and it was fantastic. It's not a queer romance, but it's awesome. It's a time travel adventure with a het romance..."

I read that years ago and loved it--kept loaning my copy out until at last someone took off with it. :-D


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Josh (joshlanyon) | 23709 comments Mod
KC wrote: "Finished One-Eyed Royals. These books are sooooo good! Now eagerly awaiting the next one."

I've heard so many good things about this series!


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Josh (joshlanyon) | 23709 comments Mod
SamSpayedPI wrote: "I'm reading The Mystery of the Moving Image by C.S. Poe. Disbelief is not suspended. There's no way, given an antique Kinetoscope and an original film, that anyone..."

This is the kind of thing that drives readers mad. I know. I sympathize because I have my own tics and tripwires in fiction.

But as a writer who has made her own mistakes (headcounts on bus tours for example) :-P it kills me when a book is completely spoiled for a reader based on a single issue or element.

And I mean maybe that single thing is symbolic of other things the reader isn't enjoying about the book--and we all know every book isn't right for every reader.

Like, a killer for me in a book is when the characters talk like Book People. The last Jesse Stone movies suffer from Book People dialog and it completely ruined one of my very favorite TV crime series for me. Whereas the author getting some factual detail wrong will be an eye roll but is rarely a deal breaker for me. And typos, punctuation, grammar mistakes--unless extreme--are something I shrug off as part of modern publishing, whereas for a lot of readers those are cause for hurling a book across the room.

I'm thinking aloud here because as an author you're always trying to understand why someone gives up on your book, when a book consists of so many moving parts.

There is no one universal answer, of course, but I keep hoping for one. :-D


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Susinok | 5205 comments Josh wrote: "SamSpayedPI wrote: "I'm reading The Mystery of the Moving Image by C.S. Poe. Disbelief is not suspended. There's no way, given an antique Kinetoscope and an origin..."

My stopping points in books are if I am not caring about the characters, or plot inconsistencies. Most of the small stuff I can pass right up with a shrug. But I am able to let the art flow over me and just go with the flow rather than get annoyed at small stuff.


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Jordan Lombard (jslombard) | 15348 comments Mod
Susinok wrote: "Josh wrote: "SamSpayedPI wrote: "I'm reading The Mystery of the Moving Image by C.S. Poe. Disbelief is not suspended. There's no way, given an antique Kinetoscope ..."

This is true for me too most of the time. Sometimes the grammar and whatnot bothers me too much, but only if it's really really bad.


message 14887: by WMD (new)

WMD | 251 comments Awkward unrealistic dialogue is my achilles' heel when reading. But mysteries can be particularly vulnerable to unbelievable plot points I think, that can pile up beyond tolerance. I didn't think this latest mystery from Poe did that, for me...seemed improved in that area, actually.


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KC | 4897 comments Susinok wrote: "My stopping points in books are if I am not caring about the characters, or plot inconsistencies. Most of the small stuff I can pass right up with a shrug. But I am able to let the art flow over me and just go with the flow rather than get annoyed at small stuff."

Mine as well. If it's well-written/engaging (and without plot inconsistencies) and especially if I care about the characters, then I can sort of try to ignore the smaller stuff.


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Sabine | 3041 comments I am with KC and Susinok. But if I have problems to know, which one of the characters is speaking, that can take away a lot of pleasure, even if I like the characters and the story has a good plot.


message 14890: by Josh (new)

Josh (joshlanyon) | 23709 comments Mod
Susinok wrote: "Josh wrote: "SamSpayedPI wrote: "I'm reading The Mystery of the Moving Image by C.S. Poe. Disbelief is not suspended. There's no way, given an antique Kinetoscope ..."

Caring about the characters is crucial. Certainly in romance. In mystery, especially mainstream mystery, I don't necessarily need to care about the character, but I do need to be so fascinated by their situation that I can't look away.


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Jordan Lombard (jslombard) | 15348 comments Mod
Hi guys!

Quick question. Have you read any REALLY good queer romance that released this year that you would want to see on a major list? Thanks!


message 14892: by SamSpayedPI (last edited Oct 03, 2018 09:19AM) (new)

SamSpayedPI | 596 comments I finished The Mystery of the Moving Image.

I did enjoy it, believe it or not, despite my criticisms. I mean, it was engaging, well written [OK, I caught one or two comma splices, but nothing distracting] and exciting, etc. I just thought Sebastian was required to behave out-of-character for the purpose of moving along a plot point.

I'm not sure what my stopping points are, if I have any. I mean, I have several authors who make egregious, repeated grammatical errors, but I still read them because I like their characters. And while I may criticize books like The Mystery of the Moving Image for being unrealistic, I'll happily read a book about MPREG werewolves.

Then again, I once was reading a book which was beautifully written, almost lyrical, when I was stopped short by a horribly mixed metaphor. I did finish the book, but it was sort of ruined for me.

I guess my biggest issue is with plotting. Even if I love the characters, if nothing happens for four or five chapters (yes, I'm talking about you, TJ Klune. Also Strangers on a Train), I'll pick up something else and never get back to the first one.


message 14893: by SamSpayedPI (last edited Oct 03, 2018 09:20AM) (new)

SamSpayedPI | 596 comments Anyway, now I'm reading The Soldier's Scoundrel because it's first in the series so I need to read it before The Lawrence Browne Affair (even though they say the books in the series may be read in any order, because I'm anal that way. I've been burned before).


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Alison | 4756 comments SamSpayedPI wrote: "Anyway, now I'm reading The Soldier's Scoundrel because it's first in the series so I need to read it before The Lawrence Browne Affair (even though they say the boo..."

I think that series is definitely best read in order. There are overlaps.


message 14895: by Alison (new)

Alison | 4756 comments Jordan wrote: "Hi guys!

Quick question. Have you read any REALLY good queer romance that released this year that you would want to see on a major list? Thanks!"


Strictly romance? Or is x genre with romantic subplot also okay?


message 14896: by Alison (new)

Alison | 4756 comments Jordan wrote: "Hi guys!

Quick question. Have you read any REALLY good queer romance that released this year that you would want to see on a major list? Thanks!"


My queer favourites of this year:

--Unmasked by the Marquess by Cat Sebastian. Historical romance. M/NB
--The Pursuit Of... by Courtney Milan. Historical romance. M/M
--Imperfect Match by Jordan Castillo Price. Dystopian coming-of-age with secondary romance. M/M
--The Henchmen of Zenda by KJ Charles. Historical adventure with secondary romance. M/M
--Unfit to Print by KJ Charles. Historical romance. M/M
--Witchmark by CL Polk. Historical fantasy adventure with secondary romance. M/M
--The Last Sun by KD Edwards. Futuristic urban fantasy with secondary romance. M/M
--Salt Magic, Skin Magic by Lee Welch. Historical fantasy paranormal romance. M/M
--Darkling by Brooklyn Ray. Dark urban fantasy romance. M(trans)/M


message 14897: by Jordan (new)

Jordan Lombard (jslombard) | 15348 comments Mod
Alison wrote: "Jordan wrote: "Hi guys!

Quick question. Have you read any REALLY good queer romance that released this year that you would want to see on a major list? Thanks!"

My queer favourites of this year:
..."


Oh, this list is fantastic! Some of these I've loved and enjoyed. Some are on my TBR pile, and several others I've not read yet or had planned to.

Thank you, Alison!


message 14898: by Anne (new)

Anne | 6816 comments Antonella wrote: "I don't want any more recs, especially not for series! ;-)"

Then you are at the wrong place, dear Antonella!


message 14899: by Josh (new)

Josh (joshlanyon) | 23709 comments Mod
SamSpayedPI wrote: "I finished The Mystery of the Moving Image.

I did enjoy it, believe it or not, despite my criticisms. I mean, it was engaging, well written [OK, I caught one or two comma splices,..."


Wait. WHAT???? You don't like Strangers on a Train???

EXPLAIN YOURSELF, SIR!!

I mean, yes, it's not exactly logical, but there's something about that movie I love.

What don't you like about it?


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Josh (joshlanyon) | 23709 comments Mod
Jordan wrote: "Susinok wrote: "Josh wrote: "SamSpayedPI wrote: "I'm reading The Mystery of the Moving Image by C.S. Poe. Disbelief is not suspended. There's no way, given an anti..."

After watching Fatal Shadows go through so many different edits for grammar and punctuation and even spelling over the years--watching editors reverse each other, publishing houses overrule each other--the book has to be almost unreadable for those to be an issue with me.


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