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Johanna | 18130 comments Mod
Antonella wrote: "Apparently Harper Fox is going to publish the new story Seven Summer Nights by Harper Fox tomorrow and I didn't know it!

http://harperfoxblog.wordpress.com/20...
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Thank you for heads-up, Antonella!


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Calathea | 6034 comments Antonella wrote: "Apparently Harper Fox is going to publish the new story Seven Summer Nights by Harper Fox tomorrow and I didn't know it!

http://harperfoxblog.wordpress.com/20...
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I'm so tempted!


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Anne | 6816 comments Calathea wrote: "Antonella wrote: "Apparently Harper Fox is going to publish the new story Seven Summer Nights by Harper Fox tomorrow and I didn't know it!

http://harperfoxblog.wordpress.com/20...-..."


I ordered it although I have no idea when I get the chance to read it. But the thought of having it on my Kindle gives me a little bit of joy :)


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Antonella | 11565 comments Anne wrote: "I ordered it although I have no idea when I get the chance to read it. But the thought of having it on my Kindle gives me a little bit of joy :)"

Same situation here...

Yesterday I had half a day free and I prayed that I would get work just to avoid starting with the tax forms. My wish came true, in fact a bit too much: 4 translations jobs came this morning, plus one I refuse to get money for (for a dear friend).


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Judy Stone | 378 comments Wriggle & Sparkle. I love this book. Wriggle & Sparkle by Megan Derr


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Calathea | 6034 comments Anne wrote: "Calathea wrote: "Antonella wrote: "Apparently Harper Fox is going to publish the new story Seven Summer Nights by Harper Fox tomorrow and I didn't know it!

http://harperfoxblog.wordpress.co..."


I'm still a bit weary after the Cold Fusion thing... (too much of a crazy roller coaster). Priddy was good though. So still gathering energy and trust to plunge into this one.

Merry Christmas, Mr. Miggles will come before that, though. :-)


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Jordan Lombard (jslombard) | 15348 comments Mod
Our BOM discussion topic for this month has been posted: https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/...

Josh had picked Maze-Born Trouble for us to read this month.

We're a book reading busy group right now!

Our Adrien English Challenge is still going on right now as well as our Peter Grant series challenge. So don't forget to read and check in with those challenges as well if you are participating!


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KC | 4897 comments Read two short novellas The Invasion of Tork (which is free atm at Amazon) and The Invasion of Adam by Claire Davis and Al Stewart - new to me authors. So absolutely wonderful! I also read recently their Shut Your Face, Anthony Pace! which was also wonderful and funny and poignant. They have a certain minimalist style that i really enjoy, a way of getting things across - situations and intense emotions - that is at times heartbreaking and breathtakingly beautiful, and always suffused with a subtle humor and lovely, heartwarming moments.


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Karen | 4449 comments Mod
KC wrote: "Read two short novellas The Invasion of Tork (which is free atm at Amazon) and The Invasion of Adam by Claire Davis and Al Stewart - new to me authors. So absolutely..."

I read The Invasion of Tork, and am kind of holding on to The Invasion of Adam as a treat when a pick-me-up is needed. You described their writing well.


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Johanna | 18130 comments Mod
KC wrote: "Read two short novellas The Invasion of Tork (which is free atm at Amazon) and The Invasion of Adam by Claire Davis and Al Stewart - new to me authors. So absolutely..."

Added these two into my to-read list. Thank you for taking the time to describe them, KC.


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Susinok | 5205 comments I am reading Santa Baby by Heidi Cullinan. She's taken characters from the second book in the series and added a third person to the relationship.

I'm ok with this. What is tedious is that she's queer-splaining polyamory. Over and over again. Does no one edit any more? Did no one tell Ms. Cullinan that pages and pages of exposition before you get to the sexytimes is really a mood killer? Sigh.


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Josh (joshlanyon) | 23709 comments Mod
Calathea wrote: "Anne wrote: "Calathea wrote: "Antonella wrote: "Apparently Harper Fox is going to publish the new story Seven Summer Nights by Harper Fox tomorrow and I didn't know it!

http://harperfoxblog..."


This looks so wonderful to me -- archeology and motorbike riding vicars and the healing powers of true love.


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Josh (joshlanyon) | 23709 comments Mod
Susinok wrote: "I am reading Santa Baby by Heidi Cullinan. She's taken characters from the second book in the series and added a third person to the relationship.

I'm ok with this. What is tedious..."


Who put the book out? Isn't it Riptide?


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Josh (joshlanyon) | 23709 comments Mod
I'm just about to start Single Malt by a new-to-me author by the name of Layla Reyne. It's a the first book in a romantic suspense trilogy about FBI agents coming out through Carina next year.


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Josh (joshlanyon) | 23709 comments Mod
Josh wrote: "I'm just about to start Single Malt by a new-to-me author by the name of Layla Reyne. It's a the first book in a romantic suspense trilogy about FBI agents coming out through Carina next year."

And then onto MAZE-BORN TROUBLE. Woohoo. Although I'm asceared to read Ginn when I'm writing my own stuff. I'LL RISK IT. ;-)


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Jordan Lombard (jslombard) | 15348 comments Mod
Just checked, and it appears, at least according to GR, that Santa Baby was self published. Maybe she just didn't hire the right editor?


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Josh (joshlanyon) | 23709 comments Mod
Jordan wrote: "Just checked, and it appears, at least according to GR, that Santa Baby was self published. Maybe she just didn't hire the right editor?"

I was reading a university press book the other night on masculinity and disability in the Victorian period and every single freaking thought was reiterated over and over and over until I had to stop. WE GET IT ALREADY.

The problem with a lot of these academic books--and I hope we don't make the same mistake with Mr & Mrs Murder is there is always too much of repeat analysis and rarely enough of the source material.


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Susinok | 5205 comments Josh wrote: "Who put the book out? Isn't it Riptide? s...."

No, this queersplaining would not have gotten past Riptide editors. It was self published, which explains a few things. I'm 33% in and on day 2. It is s.l.o.w. going. For an mmm polyamory story, so far it's dull.

She tends to run on a bit on her favorite topics. She really needs a red pen and someone to enforce it.


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Susan | 807 comments Josh wrote: "I'm just about to start Single Malt by a new-to-me author by the name of Layla Reyne. It's a the first book in a romantic suspense trilogy about FBI agents coming out through Carina next year."

Just looked this up on Carina. It looks really promising. Thanks.


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Josh (joshlanyon) | 23709 comments Mod
Susan wrote: "Josh wrote: "I'm just about to start Single Malt by a new-to-me author by the name of Layla Reyne. It's a the first book in a romantic suspense trilogy about FBI agents coming out through Carina ne..."

:-)


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Calathea | 6034 comments Josh wrote: "Jordan wrote: "Just checked, and it appears, at least according to GR, that Santa Baby was self published. Maybe she just didn't hire the right editor?"

I was reading a university press book the o..."


They have to fill a lot of pages... ;-)

Probably stretching what should be an article into a book to be able to sell it?


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Loretta (loris65) | 1545 comments Susinok wrote: "Josh wrote: "Who put the book out? Isn't it Riptide? s...."

No, this queersplaining would not have gotten past Riptide editors. It was self published, which explains a few things. I'm 33% in and o..."


Maybe she's writing more for her patrons group. The last couple of books have had a different feel for me.


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Loretta (loris65) | 1545 comments Josh wrote: "Jordan wrote: "Just checked, and it appears, at least according to GR, that Santa Baby was self published. Maybe she just didn't hire the right editor?"

I was reading a university press book the o..."


How is your Mr. & Mrs. Murder project going? I've been wondering.


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Josh (joshlanyon) | 23709 comments Mod
Calathea wrote: "Josh wrote: "Jordan wrote: "Just checked, and it appears, at least according to GR, that Santa Baby was self published. Maybe she just didn't hire the right editor?"

I was reading a university pre..."


It does seem like a lot of saying the same thing over and over again. And given that the audience for the topic is relatively small and pretty well informed, it gets to be aggravating pretty quick.


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Josh (joshlanyon) | 23709 comments Mod
Loretta wrote: "Josh wrote: "Jordan wrote: "Just checked, and it appears, at least according to GR, that Santa Baby was self published. Maybe she just didn't hire the right editor?"

I was reading a university pre..."


We postponed it until next year. There was just too much going on between health crises and me not writing commercial fiction for so many months.

Oh, but one terrific thing is after nearly two years of searching I located a copy of Body Beneath a Mandarin Tree It's so rare I wasn't even positive it existed. But I found a copy and it's now sitting on the shelf.

It would be hard to finish analyzing a series without the final book! So that's a relief.


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Josh (joshlanyon) | 23709 comments Mod
Loretta wrote: "Susinok wrote: "Josh wrote: "Who put the book out? Isn't it Riptide? s...."

No, this queersplaining would not have gotten past Riptide editors. It was self published, which explains a few things. ..."


Oh! I wonder how the patron thing is working out. I see a number of authors have opted to try that, but I haven't heard much from readers or writers as to how they like it.


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Loretta (loris65) | 1545 comments Josh wrote: "Loretta wrote: "Josh wrote: "Jordan wrote: "Just checked, and it appears, at least according to GR, that Santa Baby was self published. Maybe she just didn't hire the right editor?"

I was reading ..."


Great news on finding the book!


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Susinok | 5205 comments Josh wrote: "Oh! I wonder how the patron thing is working out. I see a number of authors have opted to try that, but I haven't heard much from readers or writers as to how they like it. ..."

I'm not gonna pay to fangirl over someone. I was tempted to join Santino's Patreon, since I like him a lot, but really I don't sign up for monthly payments for anything beyond basic bills. Otherwise you nickle and dime yourself into having no money at all. I got shoes to buy!


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Josh (joshlanyon) | 23709 comments Mod
Susinok wrote: "Josh wrote: "Oh! I wonder how the patron thing is working out. I see a number of authors have opted to try that, but I haven't heard much from readers or writers as to how they like it. ..."

I'm n..."


True enough!

Honestly, if enough readers remain willing to pay the price of a cup of fancy-schmancy (which my copyedit program appropriately enough translated to SCOTCHMAN) coffee for the stories they enjoy, we should all be able to hang on. And by "all" I mean a handful of us. Because if you need KU to survive, you're already cooked.

I was never looking to get rich (lucky for me) I just wanted to be allowed to tell the stories I yearned to write and earn a living wage. It doesn't have to be a luxurious living wage. I just don't want to die in a cardboard box under a bridge. I mean, I'M okay with that, but the SO has grander plans for his funeral than the cardboard box being sealed and mailed to ADDRESS UNKNOWN. :-D


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Josh (joshlanyon) | 23709 comments Mod
Interestingly, PATREON keep showing up in my FB sponsored timeline.

So much of the money in publishing is made by selling services to authors, and so I--cynically--wonder if this is more of the same.

I'm old school. I believe that if I write enough books that people want to buy, hopefully I can stay afloat.

But there is a whole generation of readers being trained to completely devalue fiction. The idea of paying more than a few cents for fiction means that in the long term only hobbyists and conveyor belts will be able to continue writing. There will be no such thing as a professional writer, at least as we currently understand.


Ije the Devourer of Books | 1994 comments Josh wrote: "Interestingly, PATREON keep showing up in my FB sponsored timeline.

So much of the money in publishing is made by selling services to authors, and so I--cynically--wonder if this is more of the s..."


I agree. I think some of that is to do with ebooks and the generally low cost of ebooks and the number of free ebooks available. I get offers of free ebooks everyday and I wonder if that creates an expectation in readers that ebooks will be cheap or free.


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Kirsten | 695 comments Josh wrote: "Interestingly, PATREON keep showing up in my FB sponsored timeline.

So much of the money in publishing is made by selling services to authors, and so I--cynically--wonder if this is more of the s..."


I thought Paetron started with artists in mind though, not writers? It was meant to mimic the old European patron system where artists didn't have to work during the day but could just concentrate on their art-- to a modern degree, of course. I mostly see fan artists and comic people using it.

And I think your comments about fiction writers apply equally to non-fiction writers too, seeing the rise of "fake news" and lifestyle bloggers, and the devaluing of investigative journalists and other forms of news turning into infotainment. I think it's a more widespread and complex problem than just leisure reading.


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Loretta (loris65) | 1545 comments I am reading Glass Tidings. I just came across the line, "Cops before coffee." I had to smile.


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Susinok | 5205 comments Josh wrote: "But there is a whole generation of readers being trained to completely devalue fiction. The idea of paying more than a few cents for fiction means that in the long term only hobbyists and conveyor belts will be able to continue writing. There will be no such thing as a professional writer, at least as we currently understand. ..."

But the big 5 are still publishing books at 7.99 each or even 9.99 and 12.99 when a new book comes out, and people are buying them fast as ever. The Indy market is pretty grim, but not so the mainstream. And unlike many, I don't think the mainstream publishers are going anywhere.


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Josh (joshlanyon) | 23709 comments Mod
Kirsten wrote: "Josh wrote: "Interestingly, PATREON keep showing up in my FB sponsored timeline.

So much of the money in publishing is made by selling services to authors, and so I--cynically--wonder if this is ..."


Yes, the written word in general. This idea that if it's available on the web, it should be free. It's fascinating but it's also a death knell in the distance.

I think you're right, but now I see it being used for musicians and writers. I can see how a writer might come up with monthly content, but I'm wondering what musicians do to make their patrons feel they're getting their money's worth?

A free song a month would be brutal. I don't know any musician who could produce at that pace.


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Josh (joshlanyon) | 23709 comments Mod
Loretta wrote: "I am reading Glass Tidings. I just came across the line, "Cops before coffee." I had to smile."

:-D

Before breakfast even?


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Josh (joshlanyon) | 23709 comments Mod
Susinok wrote: "Josh wrote: "But there is a whole generation of readers being trained to completely devalue fiction. The idea of paying more than a few cents for fiction means that in the long term only hobbyists ..."

http://www.publishersweekly.com/pw/by...

The last thing I read indicated that sales were down everywhere except with Amazon's own imprints -- I think that was from Nick Stephenson's list.


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Calathea | 6034 comments Josh wrote: "Kirsten wrote: "Josh wrote: "Interestingly, PATREON keep showing up in my FB sponsored timeline.

So much of the money in publishing is made by selling services to authors, and so I--cynically--wo..."


I see it with YouTubers and FanArtists. They do stuff like live drawing sessions or watch-while-I-cut-the-newest-video or extra content or extra access to the artist...

Absolutely crazy stuff in that regard is Twitch. Watch people play video games. They perform for their audience and have lots of followers and earn decent money that way.

Oh, and I remember seeing one fanfic live writing session. You could follow the making of the next chapter live on screen.

I think the main aspect is the interaction with/accessability of the artist/author/gamer. People seem to be prepared to pay money for the privilege like for a concert or signing on a convention.


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Susinok | 5205 comments Josh wrote: "I think you're right, but now I see it being used for musicians and writers. I can see how a writer might come up with monthly content, but I'm wondering what musicians do to make their patrons feel they're getting their money's worth? ..."

Live performances. That's what my husband says makes their money. It's something you can't replace with digital.


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Susinok | 5205 comments Calathea wrote: "I see it with YouTubers and FanArtists. They do stuff like live drawing sessions or watch-while-I-cut-the-newest-video or extra content or extra access to the artist... --..."

I follow a handful of YouTubers. Some are just "follow me" entertainment, some are lessons (watercolor, drawing, etc.) and some are gamers, and I watch the game that was played.

I haven't gone as far as watching Twitch or YouNow.

It's an interesting dynamic.


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Jordan Lombard (jslombard) | 15348 comments Mod
That just seems... I dunno. I wouldn't pay to watch someone play video games. I think I might be old fashioned, because I want to scream, "Get a real job!"

I honestly don't think I'd pay for most of that extra content. It would have to be really cool content.


message 12492: by Susinok (new)

Susinok | 5205 comments Watching on Twitch is free. So is YouTube, and many of those YouTubers make a living at it. Unconventional, but it works for them and they are supporting themselves.


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Josh (joshlanyon) | 23709 comments Mod
Mymymble wrote: "My friend's son Andrej was making £5000 a year playing Minecraft before he was 15. Then the corporate sponsors got involved. He didn't wanna to go to High School! But he did and is still minting it..."

Whaaa?


message 12494: by Karen (new)

Karen | 4449 comments Mod
One of the MC's in by Megan Erickson and Santino Hassell's Strong Signal makes his living by subscriber/fans watching him play. Nice to hear your friend's son's real life success story and his support of his family, Mymymble.


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Johanna | 18130 comments Mod
My copy of Here There Be Dragons arrived today! Woo hoo!

It's does look a little... weathered, but it doesn't smell bad... :-D


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Antonella | 11565 comments Johanna wrote: "My copy of Here There Be Dragons arrived today! Woo hoo!

It's does look a little... weathered, but it doesn't smell bad... :-D"


Great! IMO you'll enjoy it!


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Jordan Lombard (jslombard) | 15348 comments Mod
Lol! That pretty much describes my book. Well, I think it's got a faint musty smell, but it's definitely tolerable. Enjoy!


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Johanna | 18130 comments Mod
Antonella wrote: "Johanna wrote: "My copy of Here There Be Dragons arrived today! Woo hoo!

It's does look a little... weathered, but it doesn't smell bad... :-D"

Great! IMO you'll enjoy it!"


I'm sure I will! :-)


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Johanna | 18130 comments Mod
Jordan wrote: "Lol! That pretty much describes my book. Well, I think it's got a faint musty smell, but it's definitely tolerable. Enjoy!"

:-D


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Josh (joshlanyon) | 23709 comments Mod
I'm reminded of how important setting and scene are to creating that feeling of being in another world, of losing yourself in someone else's reality.

I'm reading a book -- I won't share the particulars -- but there is such a confusing lack of place that it basically feels like talking heads. I AM BORED OUT OF MY MIND.

What's also interesting is how flat the characters feel -- although the author has worked hard to build background and history for them -- without placing them in a believable context.

I'm not talking about fine-tuning with a lot of sensory details, by the way, I'm talking about...taking the time to maybe describe the room with a sentence. It's a lab room or it's someone's kitchen or its a car or a dock...give SOME details so the reader can picture the scene.


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