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Ije the Devourer of Books
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Jan 24, 2016 09:53PM
I treated myself to the Glitterland audio. I don't have audible membership because I don't listen a lot of audio books so I just buy direct from Itunes because audiobooks are cheaper there. I listened to a sample of Glitterland and really liked it. I shall be travelling quite a bit this year so I shall save it for one of my journeys.
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Ije the Devourer of Books wrote: "I treated myself to the Glitterland audio. I don't have audible membership because I don't listen a lot of audio books so I just buy direct from Itunes because audiobooks are cheaper there. I liste..."I am not much for audiobooks either, I have some of Josh's which I love, but I will definitely purchase Glitterland. One of the best samples I ever listened to. And Boulton is going to narrate Hall's Prosperity too - can you imagine his Milord?
Oh I just listened to the audio sample of Glitterland and it was wonderful... I'm just on the fence because it was such an emotional book for me I'm not sure I can do it again. Maybe later?I started Between Sinners and Saints last night because so many of you have recommended it - so far it is very good.
Ije the Devourer of Books wrote: "I treated myself to the Glitterland audio. I don't have audible membership because I don't listen a lot of audio books so I just buy direct from Itunes because audiobooks are cheaper there. I liste..."Is there a lot of difference between iTunes and Audible?
Varecia wrote: "Ije the Devourer of Books wrote: "I treated myself to the Glitterland audio. I don't have audible membership because I don't listen a lot of audio books so I just buy direct from Itunes because aud..."I love audiobooks. It's so relaxing while doing something else and makes chores f.ex. go much faster by. Since I hate chores that is a huge bonus.
Trioseven7 wrote: "Oh I just listened to the audio sample of Glitterland and it was wonderful... I'm just on the fence because it was such an emotional book for me I'm not sure I can do it again. Maybe later?I star..."
Probably all of those posts were me ;)
Okay, I need to rant a little bit over what's popular in romance novels nowadays. I can hardly read MF romance novels any more thanks to the 50 shades influences. The most popular stories seem to be stories featuring abusive men and women with no mind of there own who allow men to abuse them because they are so very in love.I just can't with this trend. I don't mind alpha males but I can't do abusive. Which is why (besides how horrible bad it was written) I could never read more than the first 50 shades. Nor other books similar which women seem to (pardon my language but I need to use strong, vulgar language to properly explain myself right now) ejaculate all over in shear ecstasy.
What is wrong with writing about a couple on equal footing who love each other? Love is not and should not ever be abusive.
Rant is over (for now).
And now on towards what I am reading and liking. A new author has me hooked. I bought Double Indemnity because I saw the third book in this series under new releases at Dreamspinner and it caught my interest. And this first book which I halfway through is living up to what I expected. It was hard to put it down last night and it was quite tempting to open it up on my phone and start to read at work today. Can't wait to sit myself down and continue.
Anyone else read this one? I really like it, and it got quite good mystery though I do think I've resolved who the killer is (or at least one of them).
Alison wrote: "I finally read Joanna Chambers' Unnatural the other days and it's so beautiful. I absolutely loved it."I adore her historicals. I love her writing in general, but imho, the historicals are the best.
Barbra wrote: "KC wrote: "HJ wrote: "I've bee re-reading J.L. Merrow's Shamwell tales 1 and 2 (Caught! and Played!) so I can read the latest, Out!...."Yay! :-)
Sabine wrote: "I have read Megan Derr's Trick of the Light, and liked it very much."Sounds good, so it's now on my tbr list :-)
Ame wrote: "And now on towards what I am reading and liking. A new author has me hooked. I bought Double Indemnity because I saw the third book in this series under new releases at Dreamspinner..."I've read the book and loved the two characters, Sam and Nathan. I had a hard time putting the book down. I hadn't realize she had written a squeal and another on the way. I've added them to my to-read list and wish list on amazon. Thanks for the tip!
Ame wrote: "Ije the Devourer of Books wrote: "I treated myself to the Glitterland audio. I don't have audible membership because I don't listen a lot of audio books so I just buy direct from Itunes because aud..."If you don't have audible membership then I think Itunes is cheaper. Glitterland is 15 pounds on audible but 10 pounds on Itunes, but if you are a regular listener of audiobooks then it would make sense to join audible as a member and pay the monthly fee.
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Well, that sounds pretty bad! As interesting as I find power dynamics, if the couple (same sex or het) aren't on an equal footing, I'm bored.
Ame wrote: "Okay, I need to rant a little bit over what's popular in romance novels nowadays. I can hardly read MF romance novels any more thanks to the 50 shades influences. The most popular stories seem to b..."I can't agree more, I hate abuse in books as in real life and get annoyed when one of the MC's (be it male or female) constantly lets their own will be subjucated and their limits violated because, love. There are mechanics in place that can make a person unable or unwilling to break away from such an relationship, and I like to read about that, but because of love is not the "right" answer...
(And I'm not talking about d/s or s/m relationships, consenting adults can do what they like, although I don't necessarily understand it), A lot of authors haven't really mastered the difference between this kind of relationship and abuse, I think.
I don't mind reading about abuse in books as such, but I want it written with compassion and insight as the problem it is, and I want it to end with the abuse being stopped and the villain getting his or her due punishment or redemption, as the case may be. I believe in redemption and the possibility for people to change, that can make a good story. But it needs to be written with wisdom, tact and heart. Not an easy thing to achieve, I believe.
I have worked with battered women in an earlier life, there is nothing sexy or romantic about it at all.
Anne wrote: "Ame wrote: "Okay, I need to rant a little bit over what's popular in romance novels nowadays. I can hardly read MF romance novels any more thanks to the 50 shades influences. The most popular stori..."Yes, yes and yes!! And it makes me so angry!
Yes!! Ame and Anne, my thoughts exactly and so well said!
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Yes. Exactly.
I agree with Anne and I do not understand why so many authors are writing such crap.
Murphy wrote: "I agree with Anne and I do not understand why so many authors are writing such crap."Hi, there! Are you competing with me for the title of «less diplomatic person in the thread»? You'll have to work hard to beat me ;-))
BTW I agree with you.
Antonella wrote: "Murphy wrote: "I agree with Anne and I do not understand why so many authors are writing such crap."Hi, there! Are you competing with me for the title of «less diplomatic person in the thread»? Y..."
I didn't know there was a competition but I will probably compete because I have been a fan of romance my whole life. I really don't understand how these people can write about abuse and think it is love. I worked in the welfare system for 12 years and abuse is ugly not loving.
Varecia wrote: "I am not much for audiobooks either, I have some of Josh's which I love, but I will definitely purchase Glitterland. One of the best samples I ever listened to. And Boulton is going to narrate Hall's Prosperity too - can you imagine his Milord? "He's got such a lovely voice. I am so very excited for the Prosperity audiobook too. :)
Half way through Amy Rae Durreson's latest, A Frost of Cares. I enjoy her writing so much and this one is very good too.
Alison wrote: "Varecia wrote: "I am not much for audiobooks either, I have some of Josh's which I love, but I will definitely purchase Glitterland. One of the best samples I ever listened to. And Boulton is going..."It always makes me smile to think that we are eagerly awaiting the same things while living on different sides of the earth!
:-)
Varecia wrote: "Half way through Amy Rae Durreson's latest, A Frost of Cares. I enjoy her writing so much and this one is very good too."We are on the same wave today, Varecia. :) I was also going to mention that there's new Amy Rae Durreson today! Hooray! :)
I haven't started A Frost of Cares yet, but hopefully soon. Very much looking forward to it. Her books are so beautiful. Enjoy! :)
NB: It's currently 30% off in the Dreamspinner sale. :)
Finished Out! by JL Merrow, which was good and entertaining.Then finished Lollipop by Amy Lane which was sort of a hot mess. Her cute books, as she calls them, are increasingly suffering under the excess of cute. I've given up on her angsty books long ago, since they were so over the top. Sigh. Disappointed.
Not sure what to read next. Need a palette cleanser.
Susinok wrote: "Then finished Lollipop by Amy Lane which was sort of a hot mess. Her cute books, as she calls them, are increasingly suffering under the excess of cute...."So it's not just me, then? Her angsty books are too angsty for me, but I was enjoying the lighter ones, until recently. They are becoming way over the top--too cute is a good description. It feels like a good editor could tone it down some.
Thanks to everyone who recommended Breakaway. I am nearly finished with it and it is fantastic. Some of the greatest banter ever along with many excellent characters.
Susinok wrote: "Then finished Lollipop by Amy Lane which was sort of a hot mess."LOL! I've just read Julio's review.
Antonella wrote: "Susinok wrote: "Then finished Lollipop by Amy Lane which was sort of a hot mess."LOL! I've just read Julio's review."
Wow!
I actually like Amy Lane's books and I think she means well, but it seems she has stumbled lately.
I've been thinking about the review and also the comments on writing about abuse we had a discussion about in another thread. I firmly believe that an author can and shall write about people and issues that are not based on their personal lives and experiences. If not, no heterosexual woman should ever be allowed to write about gay males. And we all agree, they should. But with this right comes the responsibility to do good work. To do research, to speak to people belonging to the group you write about, to listen to advice and last, but not least, to use the insight you thus have achieved with tact, with compassion and with good craftmanship. If you fail in this, the story most probably will fail, too and you risk hurting people in the process, even if the intention was not to hurt, but even the opposite.Sometimes I wonder how anybody runs the risk of trying. But I am happy they do, out of this comes great stories, sometimes great literature, and often, but not always, spectacular fails.
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Anyway, I agree with all of your thoughts on this.
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I'll be reading Calvin next.
I am finishing off Lessons in Desire which is book 2 of Charlie Cochrane's Cambridge Fellows series. It is such an enjoyable series with two lovely leading characters. I am going to read the whole series. I am also reading Wearing Black to the White Party which is book 3 of a murder mystery series by David Stukas. It is full of irreverent humour and really funny. I was reading it on the tube yesterday and I am quite sure other commuters were wondering why I had such a big grin on my face.
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Hi, there! Are you competing with me for the title of «less diplomatic person in the thread»? Y..."
Wait!!! I thought that was me???!! ;-D
Josh wrote: "Wait!!! I thought that was me???!! ;-D"Says the person who made me notice my latest case of putting my foot in my mouth... ;-)
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Hi, there! Are you competing with me for the title of «less diplomatic person..."
It is always fascinating what turns people on. Fictionally speaking. And if you don't get someone else's kink, there is just nothing more bizarre. Which is what makes a place like Goodreads so fascinating in a social experiment kind of way because you have all these different people with what, at one time, would have been their private and personal taste in romance (semi-abusive guardians in otherwise "sweet" English romance, for example) colliding with um...S&M or dino porn.
And a lot of people getting testy.
And with good reason. Because if you want to play slave and Roman gladiator in the privacy of your own bedroom, um, that's one thing. DO keep your drapes shut. But if you're going to write slave romance or concentration camp romance and publish it...now days you are bound to hear directly and in no uncertain terms from those it offends.
People have very complex and even disturbing (at least to others and to non health care professionals) fantasies. Rape fantasy is practically milk and cookies now days. Disability fetishes, daddy fantasies...mommy fantasies...sheep farmer fetishes.
Too much information you would think. Not that books exploring this stuff is new, but the ability to explore in public is new. And that's really where the interesting exchanges begin.
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Says the person who made me notice my latest case of putting my foot in my mouth... ;-)"
That is what is so relaxing about chatting with friends. We are free to say, HEY! What did you just say?! :-D
Many (30 odd) years ago mom told me that anyone not white wants to just be treated like anyone else. I should not refer to their race or ethnicity at all when talking to them or mentioning them in conversation to others.I deal with people from a lot of backgrounds in the kitchens, and I deal with everyone the very same way... with respect for the hard job that they have. (I would NEVER want to work in a kitchen!!!)
This applies to queer folk as well. I don't ask questions. I just carry on a normal conversation on regular topics.
And from personal experience, you would be amazed at the response you get just from smiling at people who normally get a negative reaction from white folks.
Susinok wrote: "Many (30 odd) years ago mom told me that anyone not white wants to just be treated like anyone else. I should not refer to their race or ethnicity at all when talking to them or mentioning them in ..."I would think if you treated everybody the way you want them to treat you, with respect and politeness, it is hard to go wrong.
Anne wrote: "I would think if you treated everybody the way you want them to treat you, with respect and politeness, it is hard to go wrong. ..."Exactly! And since I don't like over-familiar prying questions, I don't ask them, either. If I'm curious, I Google it.
Josh wrote: "Murphy wrote: "Antonella wrote: "Murphy wrote: "I agree with Anne and I do not understand why so many authors are writing such crap."Hi, there! Are you competing with me for the title of «less di..."
Hehehe. Reminds me of this buzzfeed thing I read yesterday: http://www.buzzfeed.com/ryanhatesthis...
Josh wrote: "dino porn"We had a very illuminating discussion about this last year at the Euro Pride Con (in fact during a long tram journey though Munich): most of the people had never heard of this, couldn't believe it exists and requested factual evidence (not T-Rex, but books on GR).
Josh wrote: "That is what is so relaxing about chatting with friends. We are free to say, HEY! What did you just say?! :-D"Exactly, instead of cutting contacts or giving you the silent treatment.
I've got a friend less because of this. The first time we had a long period of silence I contacted her to hear if there was something wrong. She had been irritated by something I said, but she promised she would immediately voice her irritation next time. She didn't. I'm not looking for her the second time. For me it is essential to be with persons which communicate and let me honestly know what they think.
Ije the Devourer of Books wrote: "I am finishing off Lessons in Desire which is book 2 of Charlie Cochrane's Cambridge Fellows series. It is such an enjoyable series with two lovely leading characters. I am going to ..."Glad you're enjoying it, Ije. It's a wonderful series and one of my dearest favourites. I don't know if you, or anyone else, are interested, but Charlie Cochrane has written a whole lot of extra scenes and short things and lovely little bits and pieces for this series and they can be found on her blog here: http://charliecochrane.livejournal.com/
If you enjoy the series, there are some very fun extras.
Alison wrote: "Ije the Devourer of Books wrote: "I am finishing off Lessons in Desire which is book 2 of Charlie Cochrane's Cambridge Fellows series. It is such an enjoyable series with two lovely ..."Thank you. I shall definitely be reading the extras :)
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Jordan wrote: "It always amazes me how caste/class driven we are where I work. I was actually told by one of the custodians that I was one of the few librarians who actually stop and talk to the custodians, carpe..."I'll talk to everybody. Knowing what they do also helps you get the job done. I'll go down to the warehouse offices and find the guy who checks in the trucks to see if my item has arrived, or the transportation person who knows what's going on out the routes, and I know all their names. There's a bit of an upstairs/downstairs vibe going on, which I completely ignore.
One of my coworkers referred to Asians as "squinty-eyed folk" today. Sigh. Joys of working in ignorant-assed Oklahoma. Odd part is that she's otherwise liberal, but can come out with the most racist comments ever. I have shut that crap down before.
Pointing out that I have a Vietnamese half-brother normally does the trick.
Antonella wrote: "Josh wrote: "dino porn"We had a very illuminating discussion about this last year at the Euro Pride Con (in fact during a long tram journey though Munich): most of the people had never heard of t..."
I have seen it on Amazon and still have problems believing it exists :)
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