Dead Ever After (Sookie Stackhouse, #13) Dead Ever After discussion


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SPOILER ALERT!!!!!Questions about the ending

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message 1: by Michael (new)

Michael Hi I have a few questions about the ending,I have never read a apologies Stackhouse book but I am curious since I am an avid watcher of true blood.
Does Bill and Eric die?
I know that she ends up with Sam,why?
What happens to Jason?


message 2: by Lisa (new) - rated it 1 star

Lisa No.
She breaks up with Eric and Sam is just there.
Jason is getting married. He only has a few mentions.


message 3: by Michael (last edited May 09, 2013 08:55AM) (new)

Michael So neither eric nor Bill dies and she picks Sam!!!!


message 4: by Lisa (last edited May 09, 2013 08:59AM) (new) - rated it 1 star

Lisa That's correct. It was a crap ending.


message 5: by Iris (new) - rated it 1 star

Iris Fratian Eric gets to be the bad guy. And Bill gets his revenge on Eric by telling Sookie stuff she wasn't supposed to know. And Sam... yeah, he's just there... his own boring self... And she is Sookie Stackhouse. She belongs there... Blah, blah, blah... Sorry. I am still so mad here.


Tammy "Z Girl" Lisa wrote: "That's correct. It was a crap ending."

Agreed...very disappointing.


message 7: by Michael (new)

Michael Extremely disappointing,here's hoping the tv show will be better


JoAnne Michael is a TV viewer.....the books are vastly different from the TV show! Things happened to the characters in the book that did not happen in the show and vice versa!
By the 13th book, Bill is a secondary character. Sam is different in the books. To me, the Sam on the TV show is NOT the same man in the books. That whole Tommy Mickens storyline was stupid. That was not Sam's family.
Eric was pulling away from Sookie in the 12th book.
I have been rooting for Sookie and Sam since the first book.


Mary Lisa wrote: "That's correct. It was a crap ending."

I thought so at first, but then I saw how Harris left the ending very open ended. She is not WITH Sam forever. She just agrees to try it out and take it slow. I think she purposely left the ending in doubt in case she finds more to write about with Sookie later on.


message 10: by Michael (last edited May 10, 2013 08:00PM) (new)

Michael Harris said it was the final book but I hope she continues because it doesn't sound like much of an ending,and I didn't know that Eric was pulling away from her,that's who I thought she would end up with.Although I would have liked if she picked Bill because he was the one I wanted her to be with from the beginning,although I didn't know he was a secondary character.I really don't like Sam in the show so I indeed hope he is better in the novels


Missyb I felt like her & Sam fell into bed and then had regrets so backed off on a relationship. It ended with her saying they'll see where things go, as if maybe it'll work and maybe it won't. Everything seemed up in the air, other then Jason's up coming wedding. Who'd have thought his relationship would be solid and Sookie's would be up in the air.

Eric was headed off to Oklahoma, without a fight, and without any of his people, to marry the queen.


JoAnne @Michael...you must go to the library and start reading the books!! Then you will found out what a shit Bill was to Sookie. You are right about Sam in the show. They ruined his character. They left so much out of the books that would have been great in the show. Jason's character is an ass in the show. In the books, he has done some dumb stuff but he's a better person.
Give them a try!


Julie Perham Michael wrote: "So neither eric nor Bill dies and she picks Sam!!!!"

It was a sort of non ending. Bill and Eric disappear and she gets into a relationship with Sam but she wants to take it slow.


message 14: by Anne (new) - rated it 3 stars

Anne Stoddard JoAnne wrote: "Michael is a TV viewer.....the books are vastly different from the TV show! Things happened to the characters in the book that did not happen in the show and vice versa!
By the 13th book, Bill is ..."



Agreed! I've been an avid reader of the books for years and by halfway through the second book I knew she needed to end up with Sam. I was satisfied with that aspect of the ending.


Trish I kind of feel the opposite about Jason (He's a real shit in the books [the whole Hot Shot first "marriage" situation]) but a sort of well-meaning moron-puppy of a real brother to Sookie and a truer soul in the show (except for the ridiculous Hoyt/Jessica/Jason thing).

That said, this book was more satisfying in than the last one, but the plot was sort of a rambling little nothing. The plots had been getting slowly less plotty as the series went on, and I wish that hadn't been true. It really did feel like she was just phoning in and cashing her checks.

I rooted for bookSookie and bookSam off and on from the beginning, but I feel like they slowly took her shifter-reading ability away over the series, because if she HADN'T been able to read Sam much to start with, then wouldn't she have looked at him differently all along?


Azb7145 The TV show is so much better then the books mostly because the books are Sookie's POV only, which is a big hinderance in any kind of story telling. You lose so much of the big picture with only Sookie's thoughts to guide you.

The TV show gives everyone's views equal time, and it also made Bill Compton so much more complex and interesting. I love the actor who play Bill, Bill's story seems much more interesting then Sookie's at this point in time on the tv show.


message 17: by Jay (new) - rated it 4 stars

Jay Lisa wrote: "That's correct. It was a crap ending."

it's the right ending for Sookie. maybe not for you...


message 18: by Jay (new) - rated it 4 stars

Jay Michael wrote: "Harris said it was the final book but I hope she continues because it doesn't sound like much of an ending,and I didn't know that Eric was pulling away from her,that's who I thought she would end u..."

The characters on the show are not the characters in the books so you can't judge one based on the other. Treat them as separate types of entertainment!


message 19: by Jay (new) - rated it 4 stars

Jay Lisa wrote: "No.
She breaks up with Eric and Sam is just there.
Jason is getting married. He only has a few mentions."


Actually, I think that Jason comes into his own in this book. He finally realizes who Sookie is to him and he realizes what he wants out of life.

I think that the Eric lovers only read the parts that involved him and glossed over the rest.


message 20: by Dana (new) - rated it 1 star

Dana I feel that this last book didn't do justice to the series. It made no sense to me because she has never had romantic feelings for Sam. From the beginning she has stated how she loves these two vampires and the vampire world. It was a big let down and as I was reading the book, I felt like I wasn't reading a book that CH wrote. I agree with Michael and hope the t.v. show ends better.


message 21: by Mary (new) - rated it 4 stars

Mary Dana wrote: "I feel that this last book didn't do justice to the series. It made no sense to me because she has never had romantic feelings for Sam. From the beginning she has stated how she loves these two v..."

She most certainly did have romantic feelings towards Sam. She kept telling herself she could not act on them though because he was her boss and that would not be right.


message 22: by Dana (new) - rated it 1 star

Dana Mary wrote: "Dana wrote: "I feel that this last book didn't do justice to the series. It made no sense to me because she has never had romantic feelings for Sam. From the beginning she has stated how she love..."

Mary,

After she met Bill didn't she compare her feelings to Sam as just friends? That is the impression that I got. It reminded me of a school crush that she felt for Sam and than she met Bill and she couldn't compare the two. Maybe I am "reading" into it.


message 23: by Mary (new) - rated it 4 stars

Mary Dana wrote: "After she met Bill didn't she compare her feelings to Sam as just friends? That is the impression that I got. It reminded me of a school crush that she felt for Sam and than she met Bill and she couldn't compare the two. Maybe I am "reading" into it. ..."

In almost every single book when Sookie describes Sam she talks about how he is small but very muscular and has a good body. She specifically states she cannot go out with him because he is her boss. Why would she say that if she had not entertained the idea of going out with him? She uses the cluviel dor on Sam. This just did not come out of the blue. When you think about it, there was really no way that Sookie could end up with Eric or Bill. She did NOT want to get turned ever. She wants children (quite a lot of interactions with Sookie and kids). She would grow old and Eric and Bill would not. The one thing that did change in Sookie and Sam's relationship was he went from being her boss to being her partner. That took away the one impediment to a relationship between the two of them.


message 24: by Dawn (new) - rated it 4 stars

Dawn I liked the ending. If you go back and read the first book, she kind of sets us up to having the ending with sam and sookie together. Eric was a douche bag who got pissed that sookie used her C.D. to save Sam's life instead of getting Eric out of his arranged marriage. Then Eric tells Sookie that he should have just turned her against her will or had pam do it, so she was forever connected with him. Then he publicly divorces Sookie in front of all the Vamps but tells Sam to stay away from her. he thinks she will just pick up and move with him and be his piece on the side. It seems Harris always turns the men into Assholes. To me it looks as though she left it open for maybe another book down the line. I like both the books and the tv series, but view them as two different stories with similarities, because they changed the tv series so much. Personally I liked the ending, I thought sookie should have been with Sam all along.


Missyb Mary wrote: "Lisa wrote: "That's correct. It was a crap ending."

I thought so at first, but then I saw how Harris left the ending very open ended. She is not WITH Sam forever. She just agrees to try it out a..."


I'm with you, the ending was left open with a "we'll see how it goes" for Sam & Sookie's relationship. If it was just an ending for this book it would be different, but since it's an ending for the series, it was horrible.


Leslie There is going to be a book coming out in October called After Dead. From my understanding it's going to be an alphabetical list of all the characters ever mentioned in the books and it will tell their happily (or not so happily) ever afters. Knowing this I was ok with the ending. I hope her happily ever after is with Sam though. Ever since the first book I could clearly see all the little signs pointing out that the two would end up together.


Karen Leslie wrote: "There is going to be a book coming out in October called After Dead. From my understanding it's going to be an alphabetical list of all the characters ever mentioned in the books and it will tell t..."

That sounds awful, why not wrap up the final book with this rather than a tacked on epilogue...very disappointing!


Leslie Karen wrote: "Leslie wrote: "There is going to be a book coming out in October called After Dead. From my understanding it's going to be an alphabetical list of all the characters ever mentioned in the books and..."

I agree and disagree with you here. I do wish there had been some sort of epilogue to wrap up Sookie and Sam's story in the book. However, I'm one of those people who always wonders what happens to the rest of the characters after a book ends so I like that we're going to get an epilogue of sorts for all the extra characters.


Shannon I agree that there were lot of references to her wanting to grow old with someone and have kids. I'd love to see her character as a mother and Sam is the only one of the 3 that could give that to her. I feel like he's always been in the background waiting for his chance. He has grown on me over the series.


message 30: by Christena (last edited Jul 08, 2013 05:21PM) (new) - rated it 3 stars

Christena Rulli This is my take on the last book- I understood why she ended it the way she did. Eric mentions that he should have just turned Sookie and not given her a choice or made Pam do it, two things she expressly says she doesn't want. Then Sookie would be to Eric like Pam and his other child would have been. The other option is to have Sookie be smuggled to Oklahoma and her being a "kept woman," another scenario she didn't want. In both those circumstances she would be controlled by Eric. At least with Sam, she has a life. She can have children if she wants.


Karen It's not the ending per se that bothers me, it is the awful clumsy way she did it. The way she made the characters act so strange, Sam cowering like a puppy and asking Eric to help him, Eric sending Mustapha to Sookie's house to pick some things up and then never showing what was so important he get back? Claude going postal because Sookie wouldn't sleep with him? It is a hashed up mess that she just threw together just to end it.

I have to say that we should have seen this coming, her other series: Lily Bard, Aurora Teagarden and Harper Connelly all had awkward endings. The woman is great overall at characterization but just doesn't know how to write a good ending. This book could have sold her story but it just leaves a lot of people feeling ripped off, we expected better from her because she had done so in the past. Big letdown.


Heather I hated the ending too. BUT, she is coming out with a book in October that is supposed to be a sort of "what happens to everyone down the line" book. I hope it clarifies all the questions.


Stephanie Bolen Eric couldn't come into contact with Sookie after he divorced her or he violated the "don't kill Sookie clause" in his marriage settlement. Sam isn't like the character in True Blood, he's basically a wuss throughout the books. Claude went postal because his looks were damaged and no one would want to sleep with him now, and it's all Sookies fault. What I found awkward was the reintroduction of Rev. Newlan and the skivy lawyer, and Arlene. Really, you had to tie up every loose end in the entire series.
As for Sookie and Eric, I loved them both but they were never meant to end up together. He is powerful, beautiful and eternal, and loves it that way. And Sookie is a down home girl that really loves her home town and wants nothing more than the life she sees everyone else having. She never wanted to be different or a freak she just wanted what everyone else had.
When she interacts with Jason's pack master, she evaluates him as a potential mate and you see what she values: a solid member of the community, hard working, polite, someone she could see in her house everyday. That's never been and never will be Eric and as much as they wish each other could be different, it's not really love if they have to change. Sookie understood this, and Eric railed at it for a bit and then finally understood. That's why the fairy wish was such a big deal to him not because he wanted her to say get Eric out of his marriage pact, but he wanted her to say Eric and I belong together forever. And forever for Sookie isn't being a vampire, it's Stackhouses living in that same house in Bon Temps forever.


Irenic CH should have done more with Sam and his difficult re-emergence to life (after Sookie brought him back from death). This could have been really creepy, with Sookie seeking help from supernatural sources. As for Eric, I could never buy into a marriage between him and Sookie; a torrid affair, with some other type of psychic connection would have been good. Then, he turns all immature and vindictive. What the heck was that? The whole Claude thing I could have done without too. Oh well; it's over


Karen Heather wrote: "I hated the ending too. BUT, she is coming out with a book in October that is supposed to be a sort of "what happens to everyone down the line" book. I hope it clarifies all the questions."

I wouldn't get my hopes up, she'll leave something out or leave more loose threads. I won't be buying it, will use the library if I really want to look at it.


Amara The HBO series and the books are really two different things. If you're hoping for some insight as to how the show will end, I think it will be very different.


Jennifer Yes I think up untiil season 3 they go along with books SOMEWHAT but after that its ALL out the window!! I like both the series AND the books which is crazy! That never happens!! I was shocked and sad about the ending, I really wanted her to turn VAMP and have SUPER mind reading powers and be with Eric etc etc etc.


message 38: by Wendy (new)

Wendy Matchen I just had to comment. I have loved the books since...well since I picked up the first one in paperback. The show really didn't do the books justice imo. I mean I liked the show but it was like after season one I was all wth???? I was soooooo ooobbber disappointed with the shows end. Books however, I wasn't disappointed or shocked about her ending up with Sam. It was a fit. I also read the book recently that ties up all the little stuff. Not bad. I will always be a true blood tv fan but as a different entity. The books are so different.


message 39: by May (new)

May I agree that Sookie had a better chance at a normal life with Sam since she didn't want to become a vampire. However, I feel like I wasted my time investing in 12 books of Sookie and Eric's relationship only to have her end up with Sam in the last 50 pages without any real leading up to it. Sam was her best friend...period. And then suddenly they're together? So disappointing.


message 40: by Karen (last edited Dec 08, 2014 08:00PM) (new) - rated it 2 stars

Karen May wrote: "I agree that Sookie had a better chance at a normal life with Sam since she didn't want to become a vampire. However, I feel like I wasted my time investing in 12 books of Sookie and Eric's relatio..."
I agree, CH manipulated everyone by having Eric become involved with Sookie, she showed Bill as a manipulative creep, Alcide was never a real possibility for a relationship, Sookie was more grossed out by the pack behavior than the vamps. Quinn was a red herring making you think she might go with him then Sookie has a hissy fit and it is over. It was a big letdown and CH shouldn't be surprised that people get angry when you jerk their emotions around. It isn't the end of the world but when you invest so much time in reading a series the ending shouldn't be a slap dash mess so you can dust off your hands and say I'm done. Very unsatisfying. I doubt I will ever read After Dead, who wants to read an alphabetical list of characters? A big raspberry to CH


message 41: by Katrina (new)

Katrina All I know was I absolutely hated the girl Sam ran off with, in the series. She was annoying in every scene she appeared in. I was so upset with both Sam and Sookie's endings. As I reflected on the end of the series I thought it would have been so much better if she would have at least ended up with Sam. That is why I came to this message board to see what happened in the book. I am 60% more satisfied. I just don't understand why. I could have done without the last season all together.

I won't read the books. I don't like authors that get you so invested in characters and then leave them in a bad place when the series is over. The readers are your audience. I understand it is the writers vision, but they should consider the feeling of the people who have been lining their pockets for the past however many years. It is very frustrating and it seems the readers thoughts and feelings were not put into consideration.


message 42: by Mary (last edited Mar 30, 2015 09:39AM) (new) - rated it 4 stars

Mary Katrina wrote: "I won't read the books. I don't like authors that get you so invested in characters and then leave them in a bad place when the series is over. The readers are your audience. I understand it is the writers vision, but they should consider the feeling of the people who have been lining their pockets for the past however many years. It is very frustrating and it seems the readers thoughts and feelings were not put into consideration. ..."

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I understand your frustration and I did not like the ending in the books (where she DID end up with Sam). However I do disagree that an author "owes" readers anything. An author writes a story. We can either like it or not like it. But I would not want an author to have their vision influenced by public opinion. They would still never satisfy everyone and it would probably affect their writing in a negative way.


message 43: by Katrina (new)

Katrina Mary wrote: "Katrina wrote: "I won't read the books. I don't like authors that get you so invested in characters and then leave them in a bad place when the series is over. The readers are your audience. I unde..."

You are right. I had just finished the final episode and I was angry, lol.


message 44: by Aden (new) - rated it 4 stars

Aden I enjoyed the book wrap up. It tied everything off. (Dead enemies, lost love, new love, money troubles) I will agree that it was a bit rambling and somewhat rushed. I can imagine that it is difficult tying up every loose end created over the course of 11 books. So, I will forgive the author for that because she attempted to give us some closure.


Karen I agree with you Mary, to a point. No an author doesn't owe the readers per se but if you spend time crafting a series that many come to love, don't you at least owe the fans a decent ending? I just feel that her heart wasn't in it after she sold the rights to HBO and was just making a half hearted attempt to finish the series. The last book was a mess pure and simple. I haven't even looked at her new one, not again.


Stacey M. Squilla I'm just wondering why Sookie couldn't have used the cluviel dor to make Eric human. Problem solved. Eric wasn't asked if he wanted to be turned (to my memory) so then they could have had a happy life, kids blah blah..... when 2 characters are together nearly throughout a series, then poof they're not and both characters end up content with others..... it's the characters settling. Sookie denies her love for Eric to herself for so long, but in the book, they had that connection, the spark, the "love makes you do the wacky" persona.... there should have been a way for them to stay together. Sookie settled for Sam. Eric settled for Queenie. There really wasn't a happily ever after in my opinion. But, that's just my opinion, I am not the writer, and despite my love of the characters, they were not MY characters.


message 47: by Gerdie (last edited Aug 17, 2018 12:52AM) (new)

Gerdie the books are better than the movie but i haven't read the last one what happened to Pam?


message 48: by Alexis (new)

Alexis Shubert Pam is sheriff of area 5


message 49: by LISA (new) - rated it 4 stars

LISA RODRIGUEZ Thank you! If anyone didn't see Sam and Sookie coming by the end of the series, it's because they were too busy wanting Sookie and some vampire to be together. Sookie got her normal, happy ending, same got the girl, and it was a perfect ending.


message 50: by LISA (new) - rated it 4 stars

LISA RODRIGUEZ Amen. Perfect reply.


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