Please add a new book cover

[Karen]

Please could a librarian add an updated cover for Switch! to be displayed instead of the old green and white cover.
* Title: Switch!
* Author: Karen Prince
* ASIN: B009H28446
* Publisher: Karen Prince
* Publication date: September 25, 2012
* Format: .mobi (Kindle eBook)
* Description: #1 in the Kingdoms of Karibu series.
* Link to cover: http://www.karen-prince.com/

Many thanks

Karen

[Empress]

Alternate cover edition added:

http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/17...

As an author you can add the book for free reading and appoint this edition for default edition
Here is how: http://www.goodreads.com/help/show/31...

[Karen]

Ellie!! You are the BOMB. I thought it would take days. Thank you!

[Empress]

You're more then welcome :)

[Karen]

Ellie, Do you by any chance know how to make the new cover come up in the search instead of the old cover, (If I search Switch Prince, I get the old version. Also, all the reviews came across to the new edition but none of the Listopia lists that the book has been voted for. Do you know how to re instate them.

Cheers, K

[Emy]

Hi K. - If you follow the instructions in the second link that Ellie gave in #2, that should update the search screen too. However, there is a caching delay, which means it can take up to 48 hours for all changes to show, so don't panic if you've set the change but it isn't showing yet. If it's not showing after 48 hours, Support can help :)

[Karen]

Thanks so much, Emy. I'm off to do that now. I thought that link was just for setting it to free read which I already had.

[Empress]

No, it is for switching the default edition, but I think (I'm not really sure) that on you authors dashboard you gonna still see the first edition. Or maybe it takes time for the change to happen.

[Karen]

Now, when I search for my book ie. Switch Prince. . .I get the lovely new version with all its reviews etc, so I am very happy. All I have to work out now is how to get my Listopia votes on to this edition with the new cover showing.

I think the place to do that is right by 'set as primary edition' where it says 'Refresh book rating stats.' But I may be wrong and in any case only a librarian is allowed to do that.

You ladies have been amazing.

Thanks

[Debbie's Spurts (D.A.)]

The listopia votes aren't part of "refresh book rating stats" — but authors should be able to refresh their book stats (if you got an error message about librarian status when trying to refresh, that's a glitch that goodreads librarians sometimes encounter as well).

Once you've set a primary edition, even if shows correctly in search and on author page, some of the thumbnails still take a bit to catch up (notably series and listopia lists tend to be slow).

[Karen]

Debbie, Goodreads is reading the book as two separate entities where Listopia votes are concerned. ie. People who have read and voted FOR THE EXACT SAME BOOK with a new cover are not showing up on the primary edition and I cannot message them and ask them to re-vote because it says they already voted.

I have started new lists for the primary edition and emailed the handfull of fans who's emails I have from my website.

I will leave it alone for a day or so and then see if anything changes.

Thanks a lot

K

[Debbie's Spurts (D.A.)]

There's something wrong because the alternate cover edition has an asin number.

That can't happen; the older cover is supposed to keep the asin. If new cover generates a new asin, it's a new edition versus alternate cover edition.

Not sure if part of the listopia issue or not.

ACE note also does not belong in the edition field..

[Debbie's Spurts (D.A.)]

Fixed.

(Policy in librarian manual is at http://www.goodreads.com/librarian_ma... which says "...leave the ISBN[asin] fields on your new edition blank... Please do not use the edition field for information about alternate cover editions..." and also shows an example link of http://www.goodreads.com/book/edit/33... )

[Karen]

Hello, Debbie.

I'm afraid I don't know what an ACE is or where the edition field is. I read the policy in the librarian manual, so I understand that they do not want to attach the asin to the alternate cover edition. Unfortunately I could not understand how the information in the link to Nora Robert's book tied in with the moving of asin numbers but I think I have drifted into Librarian territory here and am in over my head.

Since the link to Amazon in the 'Online Stores' for the alternate cover edition links to other people's books and electrical equipment, can I put a link through to Amazon in the actual description of the book?

[Emy]

ACE = Alternate Cover Edition. Sorry, we make so many that we think in acronyms for them! :)

[Debbie's Spurts (D.A.)]

No, links to booksellers not allowed. Okay to put a link/url to your own site/blog, publisher site, etc. (even if either site is also selling the book) - but no links to retail bookseller sites.

Once a correct asin or isbn correctly used by the first/original edition, it has to stay with that edition. The alternate cover editions need to have the isbn/asin fields left blank.

Unique rule to goodreads and weird but that's current policy (it's normal industry practice to get a new isbn or asin when a book is released with a new cover or new material). Part of the confusion usually comes between bookseller sites like amazon having product pages where authors/publishers/staff always want to maintain up to date with what is currently for sale with a lot of ebook authors just changing covers without getting new asin/isbn; goodreads has no product pages, only book data in a database goodreads set some standards and policies for — all editions stay put and are available for members to shelve "their" edition without ever getting an edition or bookcover removed or replaced in their "my books" shelves/catalogue.

[rivka, Former Moderator]

Debbie wrote: "normal industry practice to get a new isbn or asin when a book is released with a new cover or new material"

For booksellers. Goodreads is not a bookseller, and thus not part of that industry.

[Debbie's Spurts (D.A.)]

Yes, LOL, goodreads does not sell/provide/generate isbn/asin numbers; only use that data from the published book.

(The Nora Roberts link was just a correct example of an alternate cover edition)

[Empress]

Debbie wrote: "There's something wrong because the alternate cover edition has an asin number.

That can't happen; the older cover is supposed to keep the asin. If new cover generates a new asin, it's a new edit..."

Thanks for messaging me for this as well. Sorry for not looking into the topic. I honestly forgot.

Debbie wrote: "The listopia votes aren't part of "refresh book rating stats" — but authors should be able to refresh their book stats (if you got an error message about librarian status when trying to refresh, th..."

I just saw that we can refresh bookrating stats. Is there any point of doing it when addidn a new edition, or it is to be uses only when requested?

Thank you

[Debbie's Spurts (D.A.)]

Almost never needs to be done. There's a glitch that was happening sometimes (the ratings detail little bar chart graphic woukd not show or would show just one frozen bar instead of the mix of ratings book actually has) that per staff in goodreads feedback group has been fixed (I have not seen it stick like that glitch in a while).

Because lots of goodread data/features are cached (10 minutes thru 72 hours for different parts of the site), authors can get impatient. Particulalry if a new book had no ratings, then a handful of members did rate but cache was taking hours/days to update ratings detail and average out the star ratings rather than instantaneously. So, can be refreshed.

Only impacts the book's star ratings details. Does not impact listopia or any other features. If you go to a book page and click "ratings details" right under book title, you'll see what information is there (ratings for book, for this edition, added by how many members, marked as to read by how many, etc.)

(When goodreads librarians or authors refresh stats, there is a glitch still that sometimes gives an error message that you need to be a goodreads librarian that they are still working on. Until fixed, confuses the issue for lots of authors and librarians; if you get the error message on a book—post in librarian group for another librarian to try and eventually one of the librarians trying will get around the error message. It's a weird bug.)

[Debbie's Spurts (D.A.)]

Oops—I lied. As luck would have it, I just ran across a stuck ratings detail box so glitch is still there. Nevermind; no glitch, really did have all the same rating so only one bar showed.