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message 1: by johanna (jo) (new)

johanna (jo) (johannad_m) I found this link today:
http://mentalfloss.com/article/25813/...
Thought it was really interesting! :) 10 Facts you probably don't know about J.R.R. Tolkien - they definitely gave me a different picture of him! It seems so ironic that his writing was a mere hobby ... and yet look what he created o_O

Anyway, thought you might be interested :D


message 2: by Chris (new)

Chris Irvine | 15 comments That's really interesting! :P


message 3: by johanna (jo) (new)

johanna (jo) (johannad_m) :) Glad you found it so.


message 4: by L.Y. (new)

L.Y. Levand (lylevand) | 208 comments I read these, and it made me think I might not have liked him so much in person, lol. I don't know...he sounds kind of...egotistic? Oh well. His writing was great. xD


message 5: by johanna (jo) (new)

johanna (jo) (johannad_m) Hmm ... I don't know. In a way, yes; but aren't we all? xD The problem is, whoever is writing about him has their own opinion of him, and is obviously going to lean towards that opinion, and put him in that light xD I don't think I'd be able to tell unless I actually met him.

And you're right, his writing is great xD


message 6: by L.Y. (new)

L.Y. Levand (lylevand) | 208 comments ღ♣✽Hobbit and Proud✽♣ღ (a.k.a. Johanna) wrote: "Hmm ... I don't know. In a way, yes; but aren't we all? xD The problem is, whoever is writing about him has their own opinion of him, and is obviously going to lean towards that opinion, and put hi..."

True, true. We all do have those kinds of issues, lol. And that's the intriguing thing about writing. It all depends on who's writing it. He might also have just been so flabbergasted by the whole thing that his immediate response was 'what's wrong with you people?' xD I wonder what he would have said if we asked him about it?


message 7: by johanna (jo) (new)

johanna (jo) (johannad_m) Haha. Yes. I wish he was alive >.< I'd have loved to talk to him :)


message 8: by L.Y. (new)

L.Y. Levand (lylevand) | 208 comments Me too. I wonder if he ever did interviews. We should look it up! :D


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brooke1994  (formerlynarnian525) | 286 comments ღ♣✽Hobbit and Proud✽♣ღ (a.k.a. Johanna) wrote: "Haha. Yes. I wish he was alive >.< I'd have loved to talk to him :)"

ikr? Then I'd ask him all kinds of questions about hobbits :)


message 10: by johanna (jo) (new)

johanna (jo) (johannad_m) There's an interview here (written):

http://www.lordotrings.com/interview.asp

Some of it's quite interesting; I love that part at the end:

G: Do you wish to be remembered chiefly by your writings on philology and other matters or by The Lord of the Rings and The Hobbit?

T: I shouldn't have thought there was much choice in the matter - if I'm remembered at all it will be by The Lord of the Rings I take it.


Predicted the future rather accurately, didn't he? ^^


message 11: by L.Y. (new)

L.Y. Levand (lylevand) | 208 comments That was interesting! He seems much less snobbish after that, lol. Much more like an actual person. :) I would have loved to talk about how he built Middle-Earth!

Yes, he did predict it, didn't he? xD I can see why he'd be dismayed about what the movies have caused. It was just a story he wrote. He didn't seem to expect it to be anything very big - and then people just went nuts. xD That would be like...like if I wrote this story that didn't matter to me very much and the whole world decided they loved it.


message 12: by brooke1994 (last edited May 31, 2013 01:53PM) (new)

brooke1994  (formerlynarnian525) | 286 comments It's interesting to me how they mentioned in The Return of the King behind the scenes featurette that Tolkien never wanted The Lord of the Rings to be adapted on screen. Hopefully if he was still alive, he would like what Peter Jackson and the cast put out there.


message 13: by johanna (jo) (new)

johanna (jo) (johannad_m) L.Y. wrote: "That was interesting! He seems much less snobbish after that, lol. Much more like an actual person. :) I would have loved to talk about how he built Middle-Earth!

Yes, he did predict it, didn't h..."


*cough* Just like Arthur Conan Doyle ... he wrote Sherlock Holmes as just an amusing idea, not as serious literature ... but the public loved it so much, (I mean, look how popular he is, and how many film adaptations have been made o_O) and no one remembers him for anything else xD

Yeah. But how could we not love it?? :)


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johanna (jo) (johannad_m) Narnian525 wrote: "It's interesting to me how they mentioned in The Return of the King behind the scenes featurette that Tolkien never wanted The Lord of the Rings to be adapted on screen. Hopefully if he was still a..."

Apparently he said that whatever happened, he didn't want LOTR what he called "Disnified", and forbade Disney should ever be involved with his books.

But I don't know about other film-makers.


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brooke1994  (formerlynarnian525) | 286 comments ღ♣✽Hobbit and Proud✽♣ღ (a.k.a. Johanna) wrote: "Narnian525 wrote: "It's interesting to me how they mentioned in The Return of the King behind the scenes featurette that Tolkien never wanted The Lord of the Rings to be adapted on screen. Hopefull..."

I agree about the Disney thing. I like some of the classics that Disney has thrown out there, but if they would have done The Lord of the Rings, I don't think it would have been as good. That's just me though.


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L.Y. Levand (lylevand) | 208 comments Narnian525 wrote: "It's interesting to me how they mentioned in The Return of the King behind the scenes featurette that Tolkien never wanted The Lord of the Rings to be adapted on screen. Hopefully if he was still a..."

I hope so. :/ It seems like everybody else likes it, lol.

ღ♣✽Hobbit and Proud✽♣ღ (a.k.a. Johanna) wrote: "Narnian525 wrote: "It's interesting to me how they mentioned in The Return of the King behind the scenes featurette that Tolkien never wanted The Lord of the Rings to be adapted on screen. Hopefull..."

I can understand about not wanting Disney to do it. Lord of the Rings isn't exactly a story for little kids. It's more serious than Disney's stuff, and it wouldn't have translated well, I don't think.

The 'amusing ideas' of authors seem to turn into the world's fascination. I must keep that in mind when writing! xD Lol. But I think it would be interesting to make a list of authors like Tolkien and Doyle, who didn't expect their successes. I wonder who'd be on there?


message 17: by johanna (jo) (new)

johanna (jo) (johannad_m) Haha! Yes. Something you think is trivial and inferior to your other work could be considered a classic to others xD

Yes ... The Hobbit could be disnified, I can see that; but it was a children's book. LOTR was not.


message 18: by brooke1994 (new)

brooke1994  (formerlynarnian525) | 286 comments ღ♣✽Hobbit and Proud✽♣ღ (a.k.a. Johanna) wrote: "Haha! Yes. Something you think is trivial and inferior to your other work could be considered a classic to others xD

Yes ... The Hobbit could be disnified, I can see that; but it was a children's..."

Right.


message 19: by L.Y. (new)

L.Y. Levand (lylevand) | 208 comments ღ♣✽Hobbit and Proud✽♣ღ (a.k.a. Johanna) wrote: "Haha! Yes. Something you think is trivial and inferior to your other work could be considered a classic to others xD

Yes ... The Hobbit could be disnified, I can see that; but it was a children's..."


Agreed. The Hobbit would have survived, at least. It probably would not be as awesome, but the story would have still been intact, I think.


message 20: by brooke1994 (new)

brooke1994  (formerlynarnian525) | 286 comments I've seen Disney make movies that are still suitable for families, but not completely sugar coated like some of their other movies. If any of you have seen The Jungle Book, or The Nighmare Before Christmas, you'll know what I'm trying to say here: those movies included some suspensful and slightly dark moments for being movies from Disney. I'm not saying that Disney should have been the company to make The Lord of the Rings film adaptions, but if they would have, I woud have preferred for them to make them in a similar (not copying completely, but something similar) style like they did for those previous two movies I mentioned above. Disney isn't my top favorite anymore, but I still like it, and I've enjoyed a lot of their animated classics over the years. Especially The Jungle Book, 101 Dalmatians, and The Lion King.


message 21: by L.Y. (new)

L.Y. Levand (lylevand) | 208 comments Oh, yes, Disney does make good movies. I was one of those little girls that loved the princess ones, lol.

I don't think Lotr falls into their typical story lines, though. It's more epic, for instance. They don't usually plan for an involved series; if there are more than one or two films, they aren't really planned with a plot that extends through them all. They're really good at one-movie deals.

But maybe that's just because I have a hard time associating Disney with live-action movies. I know they've done some, but when someone says "Disney" I immediately think 'cartoon.' And I can't imagine Lotr as a cartoon. At least, not anymore. xD


message 22: by johanna (jo) (new)

johanna (jo) (johannad_m) L.Y. wrote: "Oh, yes, Disney does make good movies. I was one of those little girls that loved the princess ones, lol.

I don't think Lotr falls into their typical story lines, though. It's more epic, for inst..."


Me, too ... my brain automatically thinks 'Disney = Princesses, cartoons, fairytales" xD That's just me ... though. And my mad brain >.<


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