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Lips Touch, Three Times by Laini Taylor
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I do hope she reads with us.
But I am really excited. Kizzy's story is the only one I've read before, but I did quite enjoy it.
Alyssia wrote: "Mmmmm Kizzy.
Have either o you read Christina Rosetti's Goblin Market poem?"
I haven't.
Have either o you read Christina Rosetti's Goblin Market poem?"
I haven't.
I went to the library and got the books with the pretty pictures :) I can't start reading until tonight, though.
From Taylor's website...
WHEN IS BOOK 3 OF THE DAUGHTER OF SMOKE & BONE TRILOGY COMING OUT?
Thanks for asking! The expected pub date is April, 2014.
WHEN IS BOOK 3 OF THE DAUGHTER OF SMOKE & BONE TRILOGY COMING OUT?
Thanks for asking! The expected pub date is April, 2014.
Here is her husband's website. Look through it. His art is pretty awesome.
http://www.jimdibartolo.com/
http://www.jimdibartolo.com/
I am bad. I listened to the first story and couldn't stop myself. Laini Taylor is one of my favorite authors. I love the imaginary and the flow of the story.
I like Christina Rosetti. I home schooled my two oldest children for eight years. I had my son memorize "The Gift" by Christina Rosetti for Christmas when he was in the second grade. I haven't read the one you listed but I look forward to reading it, Alyssia.
I like Christina Rosetti. I home schooled my two oldest children for eight years. I had my son memorize "The Gift" by Christina Rosetti for Christmas when he was in the second grade. I haven't read the one you listed but I look forward to reading it, Alyssia.
That's neat that you homeschooled. I had considered homeschooling my two oldest, but ended up not. They had been going to a private school, my daughter prek-5th and my son prek-2nd, and by the time my third was ready for prek we just couldn't afford sending three of them. I kept the youngest there for prek and then they all switched to public school.
When my last daughter was born I just couldn't do it anymore. My health wasn't good and my dad was diagnosed with cancer. He suffered for 6months before he died. It was rough on all of us. I don't regret homeschooling them but I also know I couldn't do that for Hannah.
Ok, I've read the first and second story. I agree with Leigh - I love Taylor's writing. I would read anything she wrote. There is just something alluring in the way she describes everything and the way she draws out the tension. She is a master at using her words to paint the picture of what she is saying without being overdone.
Here are my thoughts –
Story 1: I really liked this one. I like the concept of the goblins and how they seduced the young girls with their wants or desires. Even though Kizzy knew all the stories, and in fact lived in the superstitions every day, she still ignored the warnings because she wanted to be "normal" like all the other girls in her school. (view spoiler)
There is a certain kind of girl the goblins crave. You could walk across a high school campus and point them out: not her, not her, her. The pert, lovely ones with butterfly tattoos in secret places, sitting on their boyfriends' laps? No, not them. The girls watching the lovely ones sitting on their boyfriends' laps? Yes.
Story 2: I liked this one even more. It was almost classical fairytale-ish (yeah, not really a word but the best I could come up with) with the cursed girl and handsome soldier coming to save her – except then of course he doesn't. I liked the different cultures and folklore intertwined into the story…and of course the idea of being an ambassador to Hell. Taylor did an excellent job keeping the suspense alive. Up to the last page I had no idea which way this was going to go – whether Ana would get her true love or not.
Story 1: I really liked this one. I like the concept of the goblins and how they seduced the young girls with their wants or desires. Even though Kizzy knew all the stories, and in fact lived in the superstitions every day, she still ignored the warnings because she wanted to be "normal" like all the other girls in her school. (view spoiler)
There is a certain kind of girl the goblins crave. You could walk across a high school campus and point them out: not her, not her, her. The pert, lovely ones with butterfly tattoos in secret places, sitting on their boyfriends' laps? No, not them. The girls watching the lovely ones sitting on their boyfriends' laps? Yes.
Story 2: I liked this one even more. It was almost classical fairytale-ish (yeah, not really a word but the best I could come up with) with the cursed girl and handsome soldier coming to save her – except then of course he doesn't. I liked the different cultures and folklore intertwined into the story…and of course the idea of being an ambassador to Hell. Taylor did an excellent job keeping the suspense alive. Up to the last page I had no idea which way this was going to go – whether Ana would get her true love or not.
Alyssia wrote: "I know. I love her. Did you check out the Rossetti poem?"
Yeah, I just read it :)
Yeah, I just read it :)

I love #1. I love that it is all about the danger that young ladies face when they yearn to be more than they are. It's about trading life for beauty. It's about not respecting or even acknowledging the beauty that exists inside (and out).
I think it's interesting that the peacocks (who I've heard are really stupid, although gorgeous birds) yell "rape". And that Kizzy's name is "butterfly rape", because a butterfly is so beautiful and fragile, and the rape happens just as it is coming out of its cocoon - just as it is beginning to see the potential of the new world.
I love that Kizzy sees the world as flawed but beautiful. I hurt for her, but I also love her for not wanting to wait for the future. She will have this thing, now, pre-emergence. If it means that she never has another thing, well ... that's ok too.

I liked Kizzy but the cursed girl and her story stole my heart. She sacrificed her voice, that she wanted to let soar, for the ones she loved. She wanted to sing so she sung in her mind, in her spirit. When her solider comes and captures her heart she doesn't want to hold her voice in anymore and that leads to tragedy. Through sacrifice that tragedy was rectified.
I can't imagine willingly being mute.
I can't imagine willingly being mute.

I don't feel for Ana the way I do for Kizzy, but I think I am in the minority (my friend is reading this right now too, and she LOVED the second story).
Ana and Kizzy both willfully do something they know is harmful. It's very clear about Ana *believing* as she does this. But Ana is hurting other people, while Kizzy is hurting herself. No one comes along to sacrifice him or herself to help Kizzy (that we know of) the way her grandmother did for her (g's) sister, but Ana doesn't have that of course.
And then even the "curse" is a blessing to her new station.
I mean, don't get me wrong, I liked the second story, and it was VERY fairy tale, but I kinda felt like Ana, who is the princess in every way with only one tragic flaw and one sad wanting, had an easier life than Kizzy. (And thousands of girls everywhere).
Maybe not though. I mean, I felt bad for her until the end. I didn't like the end much. Even if haggling in Hell would have been more difficult, I could have accepted it.
I just can't take that much HEA I guess. :)
I finished and will be starting our next read. My favorite of the three stories is still the second one. I liked the last one the least but over all I loved the book. Taylor has a way with words! Amazing!
Sorry guys...I still have to finish the last story in this one. I'm going to try to get it done this weekend. It's been a crazy week!

I had a hard time deciding which I liked better between two and three. Three was long, and had a ton of flashbacks and stories within stories. There wasn't a lot of action, and Taylor reused certain metaphors so often I thought I might vomit.
I walked around just saying "pearl" and "egg" for everything one day. Anything I wanted to talk about was somehow like a pearl or an egg.
That being said, it was a fun story, full of flavor and history. But I felt like it was a bit winding.
I look forward to hearing your thoughts Sheri.
Ladies! I hate not having an official thread to talk in!!!
Jeaniene Frost via Facebook - thought this was funny, simply because I think I love Ian just a little bit and I am a Trekkie, too (got a little bit of nerd coming out here) :)
Random smattering of tidbits: In a scene I wrote yesterday, Ian accidentally revealed to Cat that he's a closet Trekkie, which amused me to no end because prior to yesterday, *I* hadn't known that, either. If you're wondering if this is authorial bleed-through, probably, but being a Trekkie is about the only thing Ian and I would have in common ;).
Jeaniene Frost via Facebook - thought this was funny, simply because I think I love Ian just a little bit and I am a Trekkie, too (got a little bit of nerd coming out here) :)
Random smattering of tidbits: In a scene I wrote yesterday, Ian accidentally revealed to Cat that he's a closet Trekkie, which amused me to no end because prior to yesterday, *I* hadn't known that, either. If you're wondering if this is authorial bleed-through, probably, but being a Trekkie is about the only thing Ian and I would have in common ;).
I finally finished! Good thing, too, because the book is due back to the library :)
I still think I like the second story the best, though I liked the other ones, too – in order it would be 2, 1, 3. I think my only criticism of the last one is that it almost seemed like there was too much trying to squeeze into the short story – or maybe it is a novella based on the length. I think she could have made this one a novel of its own and expanded on the characters and the world they lived in. I obviously love Taylor's world building, and I would have loved to see more of it here. The story itself was interesting, though, and a bit complex with all the back and forth between the present and the past. And, of course, I agree with Alyssia's assessment of too much, too many metaphors.
I still think I like the second story the best, though I liked the other ones, too – in order it would be 2, 1, 3. I think my only criticism of the last one is that it almost seemed like there was too much trying to squeeze into the short story – or maybe it is a novella based on the length. I think she could have made this one a novel of its own and expanded on the characters and the world they lived in. I obviously love Taylor's world building, and I would have loved to see more of it here. The story itself was interesting, though, and a bit complex with all the back and forth between the present and the past. And, of course, I agree with Alyssia's assessment of too much, too many metaphors.
So the more I think about this I think I actually liked the third story the best, despite it's flaws (butterflies anyone?). I keep thinking about it - I just love the story and the whole idea behind it. I think she could have easily made it its own novel.
My favorite part of the whole book, though, is the pictures.
My favorite part of the whole book, though, is the pictures.

I hope I'm not crashing a private reading party or something; I was just curious because I was searching for something else and found this thread but I hadn't seen it announced anywhere...
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Leigh, ⚔️ Wonder Woman ⚔️
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Michael wrote: "Where did this thread come from??? You all are having an interesting discussion over here!
I hope I'm not crashing a private reading party or something; I was just curious because I was searching..."
We announce our new buddy reads in the Buddy Read thread. We read a new book every week. We are happy to have anyone join.
I hope I'm not crashing a private reading party or something; I was just curious because I was searching..."
We announce our new buddy reads in the Buddy Read thread. We read a new book every week. We are happy to have anyone join.

I hope I'm not crashing a private reading party or something; I was just curious because..."
Agreed :)

I think I see what happened. I did a thread search for "lips touch" and see that you discussed making it a weekend buddy read during the Lying Game thread but it was never announced on the buddy reads thread (unless I missed something?). I hadn't actually noticed that you were posting each Monday in the buddy reads thread, since there are so many posts in between; that's pretty cool to have a regular thing going.
I am glad I found the thread belatedly because I love discussing books when I can and this book was interesting. I see now I couldn't have buddy read this one the first week of May, though, as I was still on my library's wait-list.
Okay, I've got to run now, but I will review the comments again tonight and see if I have anything of value to contribute! I notice now that Alyssia cross-posted some of her comments so I didn't miss as much as I thought...
We may have missed posting it in the buddy reads thread that time :) We try to start a new buddy read every Monday, so keep your eye out. I think we are going to be starting the Iron Fey series in a couple of weeks...

Ooh, that is on my to-read list! Do you just randomly pick what you are going to read each week? So you won't know exactly when you read a particular book until you decide?

WHEN IS BOOK 3 OF THE DAUGHTER OF SMOKE & BONE TRILOGY COMING OUT?
Thanks for asking! The expected pub date is April, 2014."
Thanks for the info! Less than a year!

I love how you put that, she is willing to sacrifice future possibilities for the present certainty. I am torn about whether it is actually pre-emergence, though. What is your reasoning there? I am thinking the story takes place right as she is emerging - becoming a woman - and although she consents to it, the goblin is poisoning this beautiful experience and I don't quite see how she transcends that since she isn't able to set the terms.

That was my favorite, too. I also was okay with it as a novella, thought it was 5 stars actually, but saw that there was the potential for it to be even richer given more development. It's funny that you went from liking it the least to liking it the best. Maybe it was overwhelming before you had a chance to absorb it?