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Apr 13, 2009 08:48PM
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I was especially struck by the writings of Emmanuel Goldstein. While I was reading, I marked several passages that I found so amazing relevant. In the chapter War is Peace--
"And at the same time the consciousness of being at war, and therefore in danger, makes the handing-over of all power to a small caste seem the natural, unavoidable condition of survival."
"It does not matter whether the war is actually happening, and, since no decisive victory is possible, it does not matter whether the war is going well or badly. All that is needed is that a state of war should exist."
"But when war becomes literally continuous, it also ceases to be dangerous."
I can not help but think of a certain phrase and the liberties taken in the name of it.
But also, once I was finished, I wondered why O'Brien gave the writings to Winston. And was it revolutionary propaganda or actually Big Brother literature? I can't remember the exact passage but there's a moment when Winston acknowledges what he's reading is more just the facts of the situation rather than a condemnation.
"And at the same time the consciousness of being at war, and therefore in danger, makes the handing-over of all power to a small caste seem the natural, unavoidable condition of survival."
"It does not matter whether the war is actually happening, and, since no decisive victory is possible, it does not matter whether the war is going well or badly. All that is needed is that a state of war should exist."
"But when war becomes literally continuous, it also ceases to be dangerous."
I can not help but think of a certain phrase and the liberties taken in the name of it.
But also, once I was finished, I wondered why O'Brien gave the writings to Winston. And was it revolutionary propaganda or actually Big Brother literature? I can't remember the exact passage but there's a moment when Winston acknowledges what he's reading is more just the facts of the situation rather than a condemnation.
I agree that Goldstein's writing on war was really relevant (and scary as hell) but I really struggled with that chater, I felt like it went on and on.
Almost finished with this section!! I am agreeing with the above post that that Goldstein's writing is a little drawn out. I skipped a little but thought it was because I was getting tired!
The section was the worst in the book. I started to get very bored with the reading of the book. I know that was the author's time to really explain what he felt and people who are paranoid about big brother and the US becoming too controlling probably really enjoyed this part. But I myself was kinda bored. I am glad that Julia is introduced in this section. Though I did notice that she represents what a lot of people represent... if it doesn't have anything to do with me then I don't care. She would say things like... well it doesn't matter, the Party will do it anyways. It reminds me of people who don't vote. They are so mad when taxes go up for example but didn't bother to vote.
