Do you think Coin is the villain in Mockingjay?

[Mike]

0kay, Snow should be the villain, but Coin killed Prim, and she was probably worse than Snow. All she cared about was herself and her rise to power. Is she the true villain here? Is she worse than Snow?

[[deleted user]]

Snow and Coin are co-villians.

[Marie]

They fight for opposing causes but they are both as bad as each other. They are both hungry for power and order, and they will do almost anything to get it, no matter what the consequences are... :)

[Ilana]

i think that it's one of the good things about MJ. there were quite a few folks on either side that could be considered focal points of both the good and evil. i think that coin was definitely a villain here although maybe not the worst

[Mochaspresso]

Anna wrote: "0kay, Snow should be the villain, but Coin killed Prim, and she was probably worse than Snow. All she cared about was herself and her rise to power. Is she the true villain here? Is she worse than ..."

Toward the end, she proved herself to be just as much of a villain as Snow. That's why Katniss (view spoiler)[ took her out (hide spoiler)].

[Marie]

Yeah, at the last minute Katniss realized that Coin just as bad, if not worse than Snow, cause she was mad for revenge (view spoiler)[ (capitol hunger games) (hide spoiler)] and power (view spoiler)[ (by trying to get peeta to kill katniss) (hide spoiler)] x

[Daniel]

Sandra wrote: "i don't think these books have villians. that's what i love about it - there's many sides to the world.
you can say in a way that Katniss's a villian, because she voted for a Capitol's children hun..."

When she voted for another games, she did not intend to let it happen. She did not really want another games.

[Daniel]

Sandra wrote: "Daniel wrote: "Sandra wrote: "i don't think these books have villians. that's what i love about it - there's many sides to the world.
you can say in a way that Katniss's a villian, because she vote..."

If she would have voted no, she would have been killed just like Prim. At this point in the book she knows Coin is as bad as Snow and was responsible for Prims death.

I don't have the book with me so I can't type word for word. Katniss says something about weighing her options and seeing if Haymitch is in sync with her like she thinks he is. So after she says yes, Haymitch says yes, he's with the Mockingjay.
The Mockingjay is the symbol of the revolution. At this point Katniss knows they are on the same page.

Like I said, I don't have the book with me. I'm sure if you read that part over again you'll see what I mean

[Daniel]

Sandra wrote: "Daniel wrote: "Sandra wrote: "i don't think these books have villians. that's what i love about it - there's many sides to the world.
you can say in a way that Katniss's a villian, because she vote..."

Ok, this comment is going to be long. I found the parts people seem to forget about.

Katniss
"Then what's nagging at me? Those double-exploding bombs, for one. It's not that the Capitol couldn't have the same weapon, it's just that I'm sure the rebels did. Gale and Beetee's brainchild. Then there's the fact that Snow made no escape attempt, when I know him to be the consummate survivor. It seems hard to believe he didn't have a retreat somewhere, some bunker stocked with provisions where he could live out the rest of his snaky little life. And finally, there's his assessment of Coin. What's irrefutable is that she's done exactly what he said. Let the Capitol and the districts run one another into the ground and then sauntered in to take power. Even if that was her plan, it doesn't mean she dropped those parachutes. Victory was already in her grasp. Everything was in her grasp.

Except me.

I recall Boggs's response when I admitted I hadn't put much thought into Snow's successor. "If your immediate answer isn't Coin, then you're a threat. You're the face of the rebellion. You may have more influence than any other single person. Outwardly, the most you've ever done is tolerated her."

Suddenly, I'm thinking of Prim, who was not yet fourteen, not yet old enough to be granted the title of soldier, but somehow working on the front lines. How did such a thing happen? That my sister would have wanted to be there, I have no doubt. That she would be more capable than many older than she is a given. But for all that, someone very high up would have had to approve putting a thirteen-year-old in combat. Did Coin do it, hoping that losing Prim would push me completely over the edge? Or, at least, firmly on her side? I wouldn't even have had to witness it in person. Numerous cameras would be covering the City Circle. Capturing the moment forever."

So at this point, she is aware of what Coin is up to.

Katniss
Was it like this then? Seventy-five years or so ago? Did a group of people sit around and cast their votes on initiating the Hunger Games? Was there dissent? Did someone make a case for mercy that was beaten down by the calls for the deaths of the districts' children? The scent of Snow's rose curls up into my nose, down into my throat, squeezing it tight with despair. All those people I loved, dead, and we are discussing the next Hunger Games in an attempt to avoid wasting life. Nothing has changed. Nothing will ever change now.

I weigh my options carefully, think everything through. Keeping my eyes on the rose, I say, "I vote yes...for Prim."

"Haymitch, it's up to you," says Coin.

A furious Peeta hammers Haymitch with the atrocity he could become party to, but I can feel Haymitch watching me. This is the moment, then. When we find out exactly just how alike we are, and how much he truly understands me.

"I'm with the Mockingjay," he says."

[Daniel]

Sandra wrote: "ohh i see. i thought "this is the moment, then. when we find otu exactly just how alike we are, and how much he truly understands me" she meant that deep inside they both hate the capitol and want ..."

yeah, they both hate the capitol. They know that Coin is going to be just like snow though. So nothing would really change. It would be as if they did all that for nothing