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Please delete this book! (pt. 19) [Anyone requests; leave deletions for superlibrarians]
Allegra Goodman's stories published in the New Yorker: "La Vita Nuova" http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/13..."Long-Distance Client" http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/13...
"Retrospective" http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/17... is an online excerpt from her novel Total Immersion -- how do you deal with that?
I've separated out these 2 dupes with the main English hardcover:http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/17...
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/17...
After deletion the main title can be re-combined with the other Fyrvaktaren editions.
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That's ok, as it is a stand-alone (online) publication. Got the other two.
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The cover is not the same as any other Kindle editions of the work.
Need merge/delete of dup Kindle editions (already separated out):new dup (w/o ASIN) @ https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1...
WITH orig @ https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1...
Will require re-combine with other editions. Thanks!
rivka wrote: "Henning wrote: "Unspecific/duplicate book: http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/17..."The cover is not the same as any other Kindle editions of the work."
So what? There are thousands of books on Goodreads with the wrong cover added. Many users don't even seem to know that they are supposed to add the exact cover corresponding with an ISBN. You are saying it's an alternate cover? That's not the first time someone in here has suggested blindly when I have pointed out an error. The last time it took weeks and 10 posts before someone did anything about it. Meanwhile some super librarians/mods tried to gag me. Your first thought shouldn't be "it's an alternate cover", but "has the user added the wrong cover?". I might be wrong and it might exist, but I have a feeling you haven't even tried verify it's existence.
Locate the Kindle version with this cover, then. The book was added to Goodreads just a few days ago so if it exists then it's probably a new publication. This is a little weird considering the publication date has been set to 2010, don't you think? It shouldn't be too hard to locate it in the Amazon store. If it's there it should be here; if it's not there, it should be deleted.
Henning, our source for covers are library sources, the publisher or author's sites. At this time, we are not permitted to use bookseller sites as cover sources.Yes, readers sometimes load a book incorrectly but usually it is not a cover error so much as other data. Some readers have ARC copies of books with covers that were changed before final printing. That does not make the cover an error...since the book was prepublished and distributed to some people with a cover that later changed.
I can appreciate the frustration. In general, we are a volunteer band of people trying our best to make sure the data is correct. However, we have limited resources to use and must rely on the readers to be as accurate as possible. After all, this is a reader's site so far.
Got 14 / 15ETA - thanks for separating out the editions
This is contentless (not even a cover picture) http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/17...so please merge it into this one http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/56...
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Oh :( Well I unpublished it. I read the topic, and I do get why you don't delete. Thank you anyway!
Never mind on my request... the book is mine - just in spanish!
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Poof! I take it that "Murder" and "Jaz" are one series?
I have added a book without being a librarian; I apologize for the etiquette blunder, this is the book - http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/17.... The data is correct and the description is taken from the book's back cover, in case you choose to use the information at a later date to add it again with full librarian privileges. Thank you for your time and attention.
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Any user is welcome to add books to the Goodreads database, and taking information directly from a book in hand is the best way to do it.
Bea wrote: "Henning, our source for covers are library sources, the publisher or author's sites. At this time, we are not permitted to use bookseller sites as cover sources.Yes, readers sometimes load a book..."
Most popular books are probably added before release date, so most covers are pulled from publisher's sites, etc. In this case, it's even an ebook, so I assume there is no library data submission. The publisher or distributor in this case is Amazon, as it's a Kindle edition. You can't find those anywhere else. Why is it then not allowed to use Amazon for validation?
The site will be riddled with errors as long as your policy is to keep every single book edition added whenever a user uploads some random cover. Just because you can't validate it doesn't mean it's an alternate cover version. That's an obvious fallacy. All the signs point in the direction of that edition being a duplicate, and the cover added is the most common cover for the book. It's the first image that pops up if you search for the book.
How are users supposed to prove that something doesn't exist? It's so ridicilous, counter-productive and self-destructive. There is a reason why every other site/organization/whatever does the opposite; they requires proof of existance for submission, rather than solid proof of non-existance for deletion. If it's so important to keep all the duplicate garbage editions, then implement an automatic system that emails the user adding the book and tell him or her that the book will be deleted in 14 days if the user don't argue against it. Instead of just ignoring it and assume that it must be some magical edition that no one else can see.
Henning, as rivka said earlier it has a distinctive cover, which none of the other Kindle editions have. Not only that, but this is not the case of a user entering a pre-published book, or incorrectly changing or deleting an image. This user deliberately added this book last week, with this cover. It's not going to get merged unless you can prove it never was published with this cover (hint: It was. I have this same edition).
Need merge/delete of dup PB editions:http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/12... (ISBN10 typo)
with PB DEFAULT @ http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/95... (has both ISBN#s)
Thank you.
Good news. I have now received positive confirmation from the user submitting the previously discussed Kindle edition of A Game of Thrones, that the cover added was in fact INCORRECT. So now the question is whether it does in fact exist, despite the user admitting that she don't have it and actually added a random cover.It should be noted that you claim that the so-called alternate cover edition was released the exact same date as the original version (Dec 23rd 2010). Why would they release two different colors of the cover for a digital version on the same day, without any sort of exclusiveness? It's also funny to note that this alternate edition was first added now, while the other was added more than two years ago. How did they miss this other edition?
It should also be noted that Amazon don't seem to list this so-called alternate cover version. Why would they remove it? Out of stock? Out of print? It's a digital edition, and Amazon generally don't delete products from their store, but disable them.
lafon حمزة wrote: "This user deliberately added this book last week, with this cover. It's not going to get merged unless you can prove it never was published with this cover (hint: It was. I have this same edition)."
Great. Then you can provide and submit the correct ASIN. Or you are simply a blantant liar.
I separated these two identical versions of the book (one with ISBN-9, one with ISBN-13):http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/16...
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/17...
Please delete one. Will merge it back afterwards.
Thanks!
Need merge/delete of dup PB editions:http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/17... (no pub info)
with DEFAULT @ http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/17...
Thank you.
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rivka wrote: "Henning, one more attack on another user in this group, and you will be banned from the group."Are you going to ban me because I've insinuated that lafon is lying, when he seems to have done exactly that? That's pretty backwards, instead of punishing him for lying and providing false information (if it turns out to be true). What other attacks have I made? Is arguing against a super-librarian considered attacks?
It's somewhat annoying that every time I try to point out errors, you just ignore it. Can't you stop covering for each other just for the sake of "winning" an argument and start to do the right thing? I have done nothing but contributed to solve an issue. Then, instead of being met with demands of additional proof, I have been met with nothing but shallow rejections. I have pretty much proven that the edition doesn't exist, and the user who submitted it has also said that it doesn't. The edition clearly does not exist. Maybe you should give some contructive feedback as to what it would take, instead of just rejecting and ignoring my reports. You seem to have decided that no matter what proof I put forth, that edition shall never be deleted, just because I have argued against some friend of yours. I don't think you are being very reasonable.
#50 - all the same publisher, so I'd hazard a guess that they are a series created/commissioned by the publisher with multiple authors (not that uncommon). As they stand I would suggest that they ARE a series, but if reprinted by another publisher, then not...
Harry Sidebottom has a Warriors of Rome series, but I don't know about those books. They don't look connected.
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