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message 1: by Ted (last edited May 22, 2013 10:41PM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

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I would like to start a group read and discussion of the book mentioned in the topic. I thought about doing this in the Social Activism Group, then realized that the Transition Group (which is looking for a Discussion topic) may do just as well.

So the question I am posing to others is, would Transition be be a good place to do this, or would a new discussion under Social Activism be better?

Two other comments: first, wherever it is done, I will attempt to recruit more readers; and second, since I'm just proposing a reading/discussion of a book, I'm a bit hesitant to try to do it under Social Activism, which might imply a bit more "activity" than just reading/discussing.

What do you think?

The book has 34 chapters, about 10-11 pages per chapter. I would like to read this at a rate of maybe a single chapter a week, to make it an easy read and allow a goodly amount of discussion.


message 2: by Kris (last edited Apr 16, 2013 06:18PM) (new) - added it

Kris (krisrabberman) | 1 comments Mod
I'd be interested in participating, Ted, if we would be starting the discussion in mid-May or later, even over the summer. End of semester craziness at work atm, but in a few weeks things should be more manageable for me.


message 3: by Ted (new) - rated it 5 stars

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Yes, no need to jump in right away. The book has just been released. There's also a e-version available for $4. So you believe that the Transition group would be an appropriate venue, I guess?

I will invite several other of my friends to join then, at least for this read.


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Rob (rob108) | 18 comments Thanks for asking me to join Ted. I think mid May is probably better for me as well.


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Thanks for coming along Rob.


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Erica (ejschmeckpep) | 9 comments I can try to give it a go. The slow pace sounds manageable. The book sounds interesting.


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Elisabeth | 9 comments Ok, I'm in.


message 8: by Ted (new) - rated it 5 stars

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A bit more information about the book and its publisher.

Worldwatch can be accessed at http://www.worldwatch.org/

The book can be ordered direct from them at http://www.worldwatch.org/bookstore/p... The cost is $22, and there is probably a shipping charge. There's a link on this page for an e-edition, but it simply takes you to Amazon (cost is $4). On this page also you will see that foreign and PDF versions are on the way, but not yet available.

Naturally you can get the book cheaper at Amazon, less than $16, and can get free shipping if you are willing to wait a while for delivery.

A word about the paperback edition. I have these volumes going back to 2009. They are very handsomely done. The format is large (9 1/4 x 7). They have a glossy cover, copious end notes, full index, and in general each chapter is written by one or more specialists on that particular topic.

I have the e-book version presently. It does have illustrations and footnotes that can be accessed fairly easily on a Kindle. I cannot see that it has an index. I do not have a lot of facility with the Kindle yet, and find it awkward to use. I personally prefer a real book that I can get around more easily in.


message 9: by Ted (new) - rated it 5 stars

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I will post a reading schedule soon, probably on a new thread. We'll probably start in about a month.

I plan on having separate discussion threads for each chapter of the book. This will allow readers to proceed at their own pace, and submit comments on specific chapters without the comments getting all mixed together.

Perhaps a "general" comments thread would be Useful? Maybe a "Reading schedule/general comments" thread?

Open to ideas.


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The book is divided into 3 major sections: THE SUSTAINABILITY METRIC, GETTING TO TRUE SUSTAINABILITY, and OPEN IN CASE OF EMERGENCY.

The last section is about strategies for confronting difficult times, if the best scenarios don't play out. A key word in this section is "resilience".

(I know this because I watched much of the streaming event they had in Washington yesterday to introduce the book.)


message 11: by Ted (new) - rated it 5 stars

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By the way, in an interesting break with the tradition of these books, the last chapter of the book has been written by the multiple award-winning science fiction author Kim Stanley Robinson. His talk at the opening event yesterday was very up-beat.

Unfortunately I can't find it on-line.


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Barbara (bdegar) State of the World 2013
I just bought the e-book for $3.99. The reading schedule is very manageable.
BOSTON STRONG!!!


message 13: by Ted (new) - rated it 5 stars

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Glad you're going to read along Barbara. Watch for schedule coming up, but we won't be starting officially for probably 4 weeks yet.


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Lisa Reads & Reviews (lisareviews) Bought the Kindle version this morning. Looking forward to the group read in 4 weeks.


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Traveller (moontravlr) | 34 comments Mod
Hmm, actually, I'd be VERY interested in participating, since environment/global warming/sustainable development happens to be one of my hobby-horses. Sadly April/May is a crazy busy time for me as well, with lots of commitments, but my schedule lets up in early-ish June.

Still, if the discussion is going to be sooner, I'll do my very best to get hold of the book and to keep up..


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Traveller wrote: "Hmm, actually, I'd be VERY interested in participating, since environment/global warming/sustainable development happens to be one of my hobby-horses. Sadly April/May is a crazy busy time for me as..."

Traveller, we are only going to be reading about 10 pages a week. So you could perhaps follow along, or else easily catch up when your time frees up. See the schedule that I will be posting soon.


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Traveller (moontravlr) | 34 comments Mod
All right, Ted. :) I'm glad I noticed the group in time. :D


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Aloha | 3 comments I'm interested in participating. I need to clear a few books then I'll jump in.


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Aloha | 3 comments Oh, ten pages a week is very doable. Let me see what I'm supposed to be up to now.


message 20: by Traveller (last edited May 23, 2013 01:39AM) (new) - added it

Traveller (moontravlr) | 34 comments Mod
Aloha wrote: "Oh, ten pages a week is very doable. Let me see what I'm supposed to be up to now."

That will be nice, Aloha, and, IIRC, you've got this book on your list already, right?


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Aloha | 3 comments I's gots, Trav.


Ellen (elliearcher) I posted in the wrong place before but I wanted to say I am reading the book.

Socia activism seems an inevitable outgrowth from reading this book-how to stand by and do nothing?


message 23: by Ted (new) - rated it 5 stars

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Ellie wrote: "I posted in the wrong place before but I wanted to say I am reading the book.

Socia activism seems an inevitable outgrowth from reading this book-how to stand by and do nothing?"


As we get a bit more organized in this Group, I hope we can add some discussions about just that, Ellie. The Transition movement is really all about people who care about the things that are happening, getting together at a local level if possible and doing things which will be of use in the future.


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