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Mar 13, 2013 01:54AM
Right. Now I only seem to be drawn to Carmine and Haven's story!!
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Right. Now I only seem to be drawn to Carmine and Haven's story!!
Ohhh Sasha, My knees have gone all weak, both books are amazing but very different. Hot Alpha Bikers yes please...but gorgeous Mafia men...stop it!!!Yes it is a long book but its worth it.
You could always have a break... Read Undeniable to meet Frankie. (Don't be mad Marta) then we can continue with Javier
Nah ill finish it. I prob will like this Frankie person ;)I'm drawn to these ass holes in my fantasy life.
Prob cos I married the good guy in real life! Hahaha!
It's a brilliant book so enjoy. I'm not sure your fall for Frankie, if you do we will ask you to get serious help. Yes I know what you mean, what is it with these fantasy guys and how they make us feel lol
Definitely serious serious help if you fall for Frankie!! Glad you married the good guy lol
I have help, aren't u guys the support? Hahahahah
You won't listen to us Farah! I don't know how to get some sense in you lol. Frankie is my last hope
Lmao Marta, god help us if she falls for him. Don't worry Farah we will help you through this phase of yours, I'm sure we are going to see many sides of Javier over the next 2 books, wouldn't it be funny if Marta and I changed our perception of him by the time the end of book 3 came.. Can't see it happening but you never know
Hahahah!! Well u cannot blame me for Javier! Even Karina says she likes Javier!
Marta will Never!! Bhahah! Thou it wud be awesome. Lol
Karina said she likes Javier because he's more fun to write. She also mentioned villains are always fun to write. And never say never. If Ellie chooses Javier, chances are he did do something to change my mind. I don't think Ellie is dumb enough to fall for the Frankie-Javier. The only way I see her going back to him is if he turns into Deuce-Javier. In which case I will love him. I have faith in Ellie! lol she sounded like my kind of girl in S&NI am still stuck on the redhead guys. I can't wrap my mind around why. Does anyone have any ideas? It seems like when he found out the pregnancy was false alarm, they started growing apart as a couple and he turned into a douchebag. So in that case I can imagine he'd start an affair. But at the same time, Ellie mentioned they still had a good sex life. So why the redhead?? I don't get it. Maybe she's an ex-girlfriend? Maybe she claimed to be pregnant with his child? We have to think like Frankie.. When would Frankie ever cheat on Eva?
To answer my own question: I think Frankie would only ever do it to hurt Eva. To prove a point. So maybe Javier did find something out about Ellie.. Perhaps the doctor's appointment had something to do with it. Do you need some legit identification for that? Like medical history files? I'm guessing she needs some kind of a medical history for the scar on her leg. Maybe he got suspicious because Eden White's file was empty.
Marta I think either:1) He was broken that she wasn'pregnant and didn't know how to deal with the pain
2) He slept with redhead because he had to, maybe some job from Travis. He didn't tell Ellie cos he knew it would hurt her.
3)I was the Redhead :D
1) is no excuse. if that's the case, I say let's kill him :) 2) no excuse either. and frankly I find it hard to believe. Like REALLY hard to believe
3) LMAO I think that's the reason! Didn't think you'd be a homewrecker, but now we know.
1) People deal with pain diff so we can't say2) Totally possible- maybe he was instructed to get close to a woman or something. We cannot speculate till we know the truth
3) I didn't know he was in a relationship :D
1) since when is pain an excuse for cheating? 2) there are many reasons why I think that that's just not plausible.
1) pain isn't an excuse- agree! But atleast confront the man! Had she done that we wouldn't have spent two days talking about it!Or hit him or slap him! Something! Running is coward, I wanna slap her!
I'd be running the opposite direction of Javier too if I were her. He would start begging and pleading if she'd talk to him. No thank you. I'm proud of Ellie for running and leaving that psycho behind. By the way. Imagine them really having a baby together... The kid isn't even gonna know what her mom's real name is, who her grandparents are, where her mother grew up, what her life was like. It's not only Javier she's lying to, but everyone around her too. I don't know how she ever thought a baby was a good idea
All the more reason now if they get together it will be the truth. I mean she even said- he loves Eden White and I am Eden white despite the name or whatever...
Now we have real names.
Either way her parents are AWOL so that doesn't matter.
Cam already has a family. Let them be...
I doubt Ben is Cam's kid.. I think that Sophie bitch went slutting on him and claimed it's his kid and then divorced him for alimony. She was obviously going after a divorce. I think it had a reason
Marta wrote: "I doubt Ben is Cam's kid.. I think that Sophie bitch went slutting on him and claimed it's his kid and then divorced him for alimony. She was obviously going after a divorce. I think it had a reason"Shame u even wanna take a kid away from his father!
Marta u evil.. Lol
Farah, I'm actually pretty sure about this. But even if I'm wrong, I still think Camden is too good for Sophie. He should get custody over Ben and start a family with someone who deserves him
Those are the questions I keep asking myself about. I don't get the cheating part. I just can't understand why he would do it. Ok he's hurt but Ellie/ Eden did say she was happy for them to try again. Don't want to give any any spoilers .....please someone help me with this. Maybe it was something to do with Travis but the way Ellie described the scene it seemed more.
I think Javier cheated cause he's a player... It's just what he does. He craves female attention and he wanted more than one woman worshipping him in bed. That fucking asshole. I'm so glad Ellie didn't stick around and forgive him.
Maria wrote: "In high school, Camden fell for Ellie, but Ellie just saw him as a friend who should stop dressing like a freak. She wasn't attracted to him till later and didn't even recognize him at first.With..."
I think her true love id Javier
So I think I've come to justify all of Javier's actions. He cheated on her to make her leave her, because he knew that he's lifestyle was going to get her hurt but he never stopped loving her. He always promised her that he would kill anyone who ever hurt her, so his actions in Sins&Needles with her uncle were somewhat justified in my eyes (and yes I know I obviously have some serious issues if I think this way). I feel that Ellie/Eden has a stronger connection to Javier and seriously want him to redeem himself in her eyes so they can have a HEA.
Hi ladies, I think he cheated on her to push her away. He was devastated when he realised the baby was gone and wanted her to catch him, he know's she is too good for him and he know's he doesn't deserve to be happy. I think he thought that losing the baby was punishment for all the bad.
I don't think he expected her to leave though and I also think that he knew she wasn't who she said she was.
Y'all seriously need to meet Frankie... lol
It's funny isn't it that we can turn a blind eye to murder but cheating that's a no no. Yes maybe your right, it's just that Ellie didn't make the scene sound like it was just sex. The next book better come quick, I need answers lol
I can never forgive killing the uncle. He traumatized Ellie big time with that. I don't think she'll be able to look him in the eyes and forget about seeing her uncle lying dead on the floor in front of her. Plus no matter what, he was her last family member. She loved her uncle. She wouldn't forgive Cam if he would kill her uncle either.
Arabella wrote: "Hi ladies, I think he cheated on her to push her away. He was devastated when he realised the baby was gone and wanted her to catch him, he know's she is too good for him and he know's he doesn'..."I totally agree
No I think there's so much more to the cheating part. He had no idea Ellie was going to catch him that afternoon. He killed the guys in the bar which I could understand
I understand the bar guys, but not the uncle.
sorry i skipped over some post..but just have to say MARTA... I LOVE YOUR ANALOGY
FRANKIE-JAVIER OR
DEUCE-JAVIER.... lol
God no not the uncle, but I've re-read SAN and I now think the uncle wasn't all he seemed
Yeah Elaine came with the comparison and it's so true. Javier is exactly like Frankie. I don't think he will ever turn into Deuce-Javier
The uncle was shady, you're right, but Javier didn't know that lol.
ok..i just stared this morning..we shall see..seems short so i should finish quickly... i was still on book hangover with painted faces.
No your right. But on the beginning of SAN he asks Ellie about Javier. Also I think Javier whilst looking for Ellie may of had some dealings with the uncle or maybe the uncle already knew Javier was looking for her
Stefanie wrote: "So I think I've come to justify all of Javier's actions. He cheated on her to make her leave her, because he knew that he's lifestyle was going to get her hurt but he never stopped loving her. He a..."Stefanie, I think I agree with your assumptions about Javier's reasoning. I think he killed her uncle for a reason, he thinks before he acts.
I actually think it's her parents that have something to do with it. And through her parents her uncle too.
Farah wrote: "Nah ill finish it. I prob will like this Frankie person ;)I'm drawn to these ass holes in my fantasy life.
Prob cos I married the good guy in real life! Hahaha!"
No you won't Farah! Don't listen to them! I like Javier but I don't like Frankie....Frankie is like crazy for real....
Jess that's exactly how I see Javier too. They're the same, trust me. It's just that we didn't get to see how Frankie was with Eva in person, but I'm pretty sure it was like how Javier was.
Arabella wrote: "Hi ladies, I think he cheated on her to push her away. He was devastated when he realised the baby was gone and wanted her to catch him, he know's she is too good for him and he know's he doesn'..."But she found them in a VERY intimate moment...lying on their bellies, talking, laughing, him calling her beautiful. That's soo much more than a grieving f*ck. With the emotions Ellie saw, that's way beyond cheating. hmmm
Elaine wrote: "God no not the uncle, but I've re-read SAN and I now think the uncle wasn't all he seemed"I agree with u there! The uncle was shady and became a lil greedy. Not saying he should have been killed, but hey, shit happens. He did turn on his niece initially. He might've changed his mind but it was a lil too late
Maria wrote: "Stefanie wrote: "So I think I've come to justify all of Javier's actions. He cheated on her to make her leave her, because he knew that he's lifestyle was going to get her hurt but he never stopped..."Maybe the uncle is the one ultimately behind why Travis put the acid on her and Javier found out? Like the uncle got paid to rat out the parents scam to Travis?? OOOOOOHHHHH Conspiracy theories!!!
No one ratted the parents out. Ellie walked into the wrong room
Sanaa wrote: "Arabella wrote: "Hi ladies, I think he cheated on her to push her away. He was devastated when he realised the baby was gone and wanted her to catch him, he know's she is too good for him and he..."I think theres more to the cheating BUT I think that was a very intimate moment . that part is what made me hurt. It wasn't that she found him cheating, it was how she saw them having that intimate moment. It makes it seem like it wasn't just sex.
Marta wrote: "Y'all seriously need to meet Frankie... lol"I haven't finished the book yet, but who is Frankie?
