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Religion > Religion: Would The World Be Better With Or Without It?

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message 151: by [deleted user] (new)

awnas is not icky. it teaches people morals and about god if they want to learn. it is very fun.








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message 152: by Marley (new)

Marley (Marleyme95) | 5270 comments I find most relgion icky....

You must have such good morals, right Lauren..

HA


message 153: by Liz (new)

Liz Sara, thank you so much for apologizing! Now we can all go on in peace and not kick Sara out! YAY!


message 154: by Marley (new)

Marley (Marleyme95) | 5270 comments Liz must love peace... I adore peace, But can't live without chaos...


message 155: by Liz (new)

Liz I don't know...peace is wonderful but what would the world be without war? Just philosophical thoughts...


message 156: by Marley (new)

Marley (Marleyme95) | 5270 comments Boring as EVER!!

We need the war and hatred to keep us alive. Without it, would life be worth living.. I'm not saying let's all kill people. But we have to disagree.


message 157: by Lauren (new)

Lauren (djinni) | 7365 comments Mod
Or else, society becomes stagnate and decays into nothingness.

"You must have such good morals, right Lauren.. "

I do. And they are good, because I don't act nice because I'm scared of big bad Hell.


message 158: by Marley (new)

Marley (Marleyme95) | 5270 comments No, I was asking you about Sara's morals, you have amazing morals.


message 159: by Liz (new)

Liz I do. And they are good, because I don't act nice because I'm scared of big bad Hell.
Are you saying Christians and those who believe in hell have different morals because they live in fear of hell? Explain your comment...


message 160: by [deleted user] (new)

well i don't live in fear of hell as long as i have god i have nothing to fear.


message 161: by [deleted user] (new)

but i get what you mean


message 162: by Marley (new)

Marley (Marleyme95) | 5270 comments Moi, no, Sara was talking about her group and said it taught her morals, ao I said she had great morals (sarcastically, it was a cheap shot). Then Lauren thought I was tlaking about her, I wasn't though.


message 163: by Lauren (new)

Lauren (djinni) | 7365 comments Mod
*hug/tackles Marley*

"Are you saying Christians and those who believe in hell have different morals because they live in fear of hell? Explain your comment..."

Well, the only reason people avoid 'sin' is because they go to hell. And if you say it's to make God happy, a happy God won't send you to hell either.

If you say that you would be good without God, then why have him in the first place?


message 164: by [deleted user] (new)

we don't go to hell for sinning we go to hell for rejecting god


message 165: by [deleted user] (new)

and i have wonderful morals actually. that just goes to show that you should not judge those you don't know


message 166: by Marley (new)

Marley (Marleyme95) | 5270 comments In my opinion you don't. What religion are you? What a self-centered god,
"You didn't ahve to do what I said, but believe in me and you could've gone to heaven, to hell with you, I don't care if you are a charity worker."


message 167: by [deleted user] (new)

because god wants you to believe in him...in your opinion i have horrible morals even though you don't know me...that makes no sense.


message 168: by Liz (new)

Liz "Well, the only reason people avoid 'sin' is because they go to hell. And if you say it's to make God happy, a happy God won't send you to hell either."

No, actually, that is not the only reason. Some people want to be genuinely good people just because they want to treat others kindly and it brings them happiness to do so.


message 169: by [deleted user] (new)

yes that is so true...


message 170: by Marley (new)

Marley (Marleyme95) | 5270 comments I don't think christians have good morals, because they believe in a book that condones slavery, prejudice and hatred.


message 171: by [deleted user] (new)

the only slavery really is when moses frees the slaves
from egypt...







oh so our morals are os horrible...why is it that our rules are full of being a good person and other such things







and it doesn't condone it


message 172: by Marley (new)

Marley (Marleyme95) | 5270 comments Hmm, there are also rules that if you are a homesexual you should be stoned to death, but didn't god make you that way?


message 173: by [deleted user] (new)

no not really God made you not your desicions. and he never said that...and it is supposed to be man with woman


message 174: by [deleted user] (new)

People do not just decide to be gay.


message 175: by Marley (new)

Marley (Marleyme95) | 5270 comments But if God controls the universe than he controls your mind and could have made you do it diferently. YOu actually think homosexuality is a choice? HA! Why would somebody chose a life where people like you belive they should be harmed, and sent to hell, why chose a life where it would cause your friends and family to turn on you. You think you can control your sexual urges, so let's see the next time a cute boy walks past, can you chose to think he is ugly. Also did you decide to be staight?


message 176: by [deleted user] (new)

ummm yes they actually do...







and now you will say people can't help who they are attracted to...







and i will say yes they can







and you will say how







and i will say if they want to







and you will say that isn't a reason







its always the same


message 177: by [deleted user] (new)

Always the same because you're wrong? Yeah, okay Sara.


message 178: by Marley (new)

Marley (Marleyme95) | 5270 comments Okay, good job, so it isn't a reason, also why would you want to surpress your love for another human, for a god that most likely doesn't exist.


message 179: by [deleted user] (new)

most likely no...you have proved he does not exist and no i am not always wrong...







why do you think most people make fun of gays...







BECAUSE IT IS WIERD AND ITS WRONG


message 180: by Marley (new)

Marley (Marleyme95) | 5270 comments You know, in the 1960's people thought it was okay to lynch black people. Their arguements, were the same as yours, it's weird and wrong, they even made fun of them.


message 181: by [deleted user] (new)

well it is wrong...and this isn't the same issue


message 182: by [deleted user] (new)

Prove it is wrong.


message 183: by Marley (new)

Marley (Marleyme95) | 5270 comments Yes it is the same, a minority being teased and hurt by a majority. I seee no difference.


message 184: by [deleted user] (new)

tis an opinion it shan't be proved wrong because it can't be proved wrong...tis like it shan't be proved right because it can't be proved right


message 185: by [deleted user] (new)

Elementary my dear Watson.


message 186: by [deleted user] (new)

You cannot use opinions to debate.


message 187: by [deleted user] (new)

well that is all this "gay" debate is...opinion..it is exactly like god


message 188: by Marley (new)

Marley (Marleyme95) | 5270 comments If you don't like to debate why are you in this group? J which side are you on??


message 189: by [deleted user] (new)

again with the words and the putting into the mouth...i never said i didn't like to debate i said it was an opinion that no one will ever win...


message 190: by Marley (new)

Marley (Marleyme95) | 5270 comments Well, by saying that it seems as though you don't like debate, you seem wuite uninterested in talking to me.


message 191: by Lauren (new)

Lauren (djinni) | 7365 comments Mod
Nice debating Marley and J. <3

The choices are God made people gay (and he is a sadistic bully for sending them to hell for that.
People choose to be something that gets them discriminated against and hated by certain people. (which just seems stupid, frankly)
Or, people are born gay or straight.


message 192: by Marley (new)

Marley (Marleyme95) | 5270 comments Hmm, I'm happy, I finally wrote some stuuf. And good music, happy happy happy, HEY YOU, don't ruin it.


message 193: by Lauren (new)

Lauren (djinni) | 7365 comments Mod
wtf


message 194: by [deleted user] (new)

Thanks, Lauren (=

I'm on your side, Marley.


message 195: by Marley (new)

Marley (Marleyme95) | 5270 comments Me? I can't be happy?


message 196: by Lauren (new)

Lauren (djinni) | 7365 comments Mod
No, but WHY are you happy? Your post was very vague.


message 197: by Lauren (new)

Lauren (djinni) | 7365 comments Mod
lol we're forming sides, this is like Dumbledore's Army, in debate form lolol


message 198: by Marley (new)

Marley (Marleyme95) | 5270 comments Good Mucsic, and tacos.


message 199: by Lauren (new)

Lauren (djinni) | 7365 comments Mod
What music! VAGUE!


message 200: by Marley (new)

Marley (Marleyme95) | 5270 comments I don't remember, but it uis calming and good lyrics, and sometimes I am happy for no reason. Life is reasonless, just go with it Lauren.


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