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Jon and Daenerys: Knowing and Not Knowing, the Show and the Books
Brandy
Mar 05, 2013 06:03PM
So, I’ve been rewatching Game of Thrones with my Dad. At this point I have watched both seasons of the show and I am part way through the fourth book. When I first started watching I had not yet read any of the books, so I had nothing to influence what I was watching. Watching it again, after reading the books I’m seeing things in a new light. I wonder if they were intended or not. What stands out the most to me is the juxtaposition of “It is known” being said to Daenerys and Ygritte saying “You know nothing, Jon Snow.” I find this interesting because of the mystery surrounding Jon’s parentage and the theories that he is Lyanna and Rhaegar’s son.
We “know” that Jon’s parents are Ned Stark and Willa (based on the show) or Ned Stark and Willa or Ned Stark and a noble woman he met at Harrenhal (based on the books), but we “know nothing.”
It’s interesting that Daenerys is a “known” Targaryan and Jon Snow is a theorized Targaryean, the two people that the lines about knowledge are said to.
I dunno. I’m crazy. I just think it aids the theories and it’s fun. What do you think?
We “know” that Jon’s parents are Ned Stark and Willa (based on the show) or Ned Stark and Willa or Ned Stark and a noble woman he met at Harrenhal (based on the books), but we “know nothing.”
It’s interesting that Daenerys is a “known” Targaryan and Jon Snow is a theorized Targaryean, the two people that the lines about knowledge are said to.
I dunno. I’m crazy. I just think it aids the theories and it’s fun. What do you think?
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While i think that's a fairly clever interpretation I don't believe it was an an intentional allusion to the targaryen heritage of either character.
"it is known" is a common phrase for dothraki. however, it is commonly associated with "wisdom" that can be seen to be outdated, narrow-minded, or disproven later in the text. it is the very epitome of believing something based on faith rather than on fact. so when looking at it in this light your interpretation falls apart.
also it could be argued that neither of them know much of anything about their heritage, since not only is jon unaware of his possible targaryen lineage, but also of much of the history of the north, especially the history that falls on the other side of the wall. and danaerys is dependant on stories from barristan and jorah to fill in gaps in her family history as well, not to mention the fact that she knows almost nothing of westeros at all.
"it is known" is a common phrase for dothraki. however, it is commonly associated with "wisdom" that can be seen to be outdated, narrow-minded, or disproven later in the text. it is the very epitome of believing something based on faith rather than on fact. so when looking at it in this light your interpretation falls apart.
also it could be argued that neither of them know much of anything about their heritage, since not only is jon unaware of his possible targaryen lineage, but also of much of the history of the north, especially the history that falls on the other side of the wall. and danaerys is dependant on stories from barristan and jorah to fill in gaps in her family history as well, not to mention the fact that she knows almost nothing of westeros at all.
Don't want to hijack the thread, but I've been looking for somewhere to posit the question. Now that there (view spoiler) all of which seem (view spoiler), does anybody else keep thinking of the 'Dragon has three heads' theme? It strikes me that the Stark family (view spoiler) would give them the upper hand in the war for Westeros?
D.L. Christopher
I always forget about Rickon! The Warg with the Wildlings was able to inhabit any animal he could break (the one with the eagle?) You might be right,
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