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message 1: by Patricia (new)

Patricia Rushford (patriciarushford) | 19 comments I'm Patricia H. Rushford. My new book Strangers is the Night is not on my dashboard. I do see it, not sure which page, but while the title and author are correct, it's the wrong cover. I uploaded a photo of the real cover on my dashboard. I hope this isn't too confusing. I can send the right photo if you need it. Thanks for the help.


message 2: by Cait (last edited Mar 02, 2013 01:58PM) (new)

Cait (tigercait) | 4988 comments I've combined the editions here:
http://www.goodreads.com/work/edition...

It looks like the 2013 edition has the new cover and the 2011 has an older cover; is that correct for each publication? Does the Kindle edition have the same cover as one of these editions, or is it a third cover? (Also, do you have an ASIN for the Kindle edition?)


message 3: by Patricia (new)

Patricia Rushford (patriciarushford) | 19 comments There is only one edition. Brand new book just released Feb 26. The red/pink cover has nothing to do with this book. Thanks, Pat


message 4: by Patricia (new)

Patricia Rushford (patriciarushford) | 19 comments Hi Cait: I replied to this, but in the wrong place I think. There is only one edition of Strangers in the Night. It's a brand new book just released Feb 26. The red/pink cover/book is not mine. Here's the Amazon link to mine. http://www.amazon.com/Strangers-Night...
thanks, Pat

Cait wrote: "I've combined the editions here:
http://www.goodreads.com/work/edition...

It looks like the 2013 edition has the new cover and the 2011 has an older cover; is that co..."



message 5: by Banjomike (new)

Banjomike | 5166 comments There are several sites selling (or listing) the book with the red/pink cover. Including Amazon:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Strangers-Stu...


message 6: by Patricia (new)

Patricia Rushford (patriciarushford) | 19 comments Oh, goodness. Thanks for telling me. I don't know what's going on. I'll contact Amazon too. I checked out the link. Crazy. Hopefully it will get straightened out. :-)


message 7: by Banjomike (new)

Banjomike | 5166 comments Patricia wrote: "Oh, goodness. Thanks for telling me. I don't know what's going on. I'll contact Amazon too. I checked out the link. Crazy. Hopefully it will get straightened out. :-)"

This is the reason we keep ALL book covers. If someone bought your book from Amazon, or anywhere else, with THAT cover then they have the option to have THAT cover on their shelf.


message 8: by Patricia (new)

Patricia Rushford (patriciarushford) | 19 comments Yikes. And that isn't my cover at all, never has been. Mine is a mystery novel, that one is a history of something. I can't imagine how my name got on that cover. I don't think anyone can buy it as it is out of stock.


message 9: by Debbie's Spurts (D.A.) (last edited Mar 03, 2013 01:54PM) (new)

Debbie's Spurts (D.A.) | 6325 comments I think amazon or a marketplace seller may have shoved a "Patricia Rushford" book on "Patricia H. Rushfor" profile. Nothing goodreads can help you fix, but looks like amazon has lumped a lot of other genre books onto your amazon profile.


message 10: by Banjomike (new)

Banjomike | 5166 comments Patricia wrote: "Yikes. And that isn't my cover at all, never has been. Mine is a mystery novel, that one is a history of something. I can't imagine how my name got on that cover. I don't think anyone can buy it as it is out of stock. "

The red cover on Amazon has the right title, series title, and author name and the ISBN seems to be OK so someone might have paid for it. Even on Goodreads someone has reviewed that cover edition.

Most books on Goodreads are out of print. We keep them anyway.


message 11: by Debbie's Spurts (D.A.) (last edited Mar 03, 2013 02:19PM) (new)

Debbie's Spurts (D.A.) | 6325 comments But, maybe that particular isbn needs to be separated out from editions of the same named mystery book and the author name changed to one of the other Patricia Rushford authors instead of Patricia H.Rushford 2-space author.

I actually oddly am not seeing 1-space "Patricia H. Rushford" when I look at similar author names at http://www.goodreads.com/author/simil....

I'm going to look for author name changes in that isbn edition in case someone added or removed a space.



message 12: by Debbie's Spurts (D.A.) (last edited Mar 03, 2013 02:19PM) (new)

Debbie's Spurts (D.A.) | 6325 comments
Voilá!

Changelog item 43664747 had a librarian changing author name from "Patricia Rushford" to "Patricia H. Rushford."

I can edit back; but, can someone confirm isbn information for me, which book gets? And why is "fall in love" emblem in upper left corner of multiple editions? If they are not the same book?


That exact same series logo is also currently on author website, so nevermind.


message 13: by Banjomike (new)

Banjomike | 5166 comments Debbie wrote: "Voilá!

Changelog item 43664747 had a librarian changing author name from "Patricia Rushford" to "Patricia H. Rushford."

I can edit back; but, can someone confirm isbn information for me, which book gets? "


You've lost me. "Strangers in the Night" is by "Patricia H. Rushford", why do we want to change that? Amazon and other sites might have been using an unorthodox or even unapproved cover but it seems that they were using it to advertise Patricia's book.

The "when I fall in love" logo is the series name. As I said above, the title, author name (including the H.), and series name all match.


message 14: by Debbie's Spurts (D.A.) (last edited Mar 03, 2013 02:24PM) (new)

Debbie's Spurts (D.A.) | 6325 comments I edited out my comments (probably same time you were posting) because I saw same series logo on both book covers and on the cover on author website.

I'm not sure how a cover denotes something was a history book or not. I was just seeing a lot of Patricia Rushford books in a lot of genres so initially concerned was a similar name issue.

Did no edits on the books themselves (wasn't going to until this thread said so).


message 15: by Patricia (last edited Mar 03, 2013 03:59PM) (new)

Patricia Rushford (patriciarushford) | 19 comments I am totally confused. I've written over 50 books so there are a ton of my books on Amazon and goodreads. I have never seen the cover with the girl in pink before. I have no idea how my name and the title of my new (underscore new) book got on that cover. My new book is, Strangers in the Night (When I Fall In Love) ePUB ISBN-13: 978-0-8249-3439-2 Summerside Press. My cover is of a woman in the woods wearing a beige shawl.

On amazon, beside the pink cover in the title is this: Strangers in the Night (Studies in Christian History and Thought) This makes it even more bizarre. I have written a note to Amazon and to my publisher in the hopes of getting rid of that fake cover. I hope it can be fixed here as well.

To clarify, My publisher has several books in a series called "When I Fall in Love." Strangers in the Night is one of these. None of them has this cover with the girl in pink so I have no idea where it came from. Mind boggling for sure.


Debbie's Spurts (D.A.) | 6325 comments Maybe a user loaded image with the series name/logo bit photoshopped in? Once it hits amazon the images breed like wildfire all over the blogosphere. Amazon should be able to resolve for you, particularly if was an unofficial cover just uploaded by random customer.

(I am thankful goodreads does not use amazon as a data source.)


message 17: by Patricia (new)

Patricia Rushford (patriciarushford) | 19 comments All I know is that I need this listing removed: http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/11...

This link is good except for the "edition" that does not exist. http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/17...

Sure hope this cover thing can be resolved. Thanks for the help. Pat


message 18: by Banjomike (new)

Banjomike | 5166 comments Patricia wrote: "All I know is that I need this listing removed: http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/11...

This link is good except for the "edition" that does not exist. http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/17...

Sure hope this cover thing can be resolved. Thanks for the help. Pat "


I think we need to wait for Rivka to come and visit. The red edition has all the hallmarks of a 'real' edition including still being listed on sites.


message 19: by rivka, Former Moderator (new)

rivka | 45177 comments Mod
The original source for that edition is Ingram, and while I believe it may be out of print, I see no evidence it was never in print. The edition stays.

Of course, the author can make the newer edition the primary/default if she chooses: http://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/1...


message 20: by Tntexas (new)

Tntexas | 404 comments Patricia,

How long was your book under contract with the publisher before and how often did the release date change before it was published? Maybe the publisher released the other cover in anticipation of an earlier release date?


message 21: by Patricia (new)

Patricia Rushford (patriciarushford) | 19 comments rivka wrote: "The original source for that edition is Ingram, and while I believe it may be out of print, I see no evidence it was never in print. The edition stays.

Of course, the author can make the newer edi..."


What do you mean, "the edition stays."? It is not my book. It can't stay under my name as an edition of my new book.
This is so frustrating. There is only one edition of my book Strangers in the Night. Only one and it is brand new--out Feb 26--never before published. My book has nothing whatsoever to do with the "edition" with the pink cover that is listed with my book. This is like falling down a rabbit hole. Totally bizarre. Do you have a contact with Ingram so I can get to the source of this craziness? Thanks, Pat


message 22: by rivka, Former Moderator (new)

rivka | 45177 comments Mod
And yet it's still listed for sale, on multiple sites, with pub date September 2012.


message 23: by Debbie's Spurts (D.A.) (last edited Mar 05, 2013 03:48PM) (new)

Debbie's Spurts (D.A.) | 6325 comments I think Ingram gets data from publishers? (Not at all knowledable about the data feeds). Most sources showing that cover list the same Summerside Press publisher so maybe from the publisher's end you could get an explanation? Looks like (not really expert at reading isbn info either) the isbn numbers are for two different languages (I think the Ø or 1 after 978 might mean U.S. English or at least the start of a group country code sharing a language) if that helps.


message 24: by Banjomike (new)

Banjomike | 5166 comments Other threads have had authors commenting that their publisher has released an ARC or other preview without telling them (the author). Is it possible that Summerside Press, or their publicity machine, have done the same?


message 25: by Patricia (new)

Patricia Rushford (patriciarushford) | 19 comments I have my publisher looking into this. It is so strange. The other odd thing is that on Amazon when I click on the cover to look inside, my book is there. Someone messed up big time. I appreciate your comments and hope this issue can be resolved. It's a bit disconcerting. I'm also going to try to track down the actual writer of the book which is non-fiction subtitled a history of Christian thought. It's almost as if someone sabotaged that author's book and put my name and title on it. Well, I do write mysteries and this certainly is one. :-)


message 26: by Tntexas (new)

Tntexas | 404 comments rivka wrote: "And yet it's still listed for sale, on multiple sites, with pub date September 2012."

Amongst others: Sept. 2011, January or December 2012 (not sure which), and January 2012.


message 27: by Tntexas (new)

Tntexas | 404 comments Patricia wrote: "I'm also going to try to track down the actual writer of the book which is non-fiction subtitled a history of Christian thought."

None of the listings I've seen for the "pink cover" have had a subtitle and all that have had a summary have had a summary that matches your book; and the cover, whether it was ever used or not, was clearly meant for your book. I understand the manuscript was under contract for a considerable time before it was published and the publishing company changed hands during the interim. Maybe that's a version that was considered for use earlier in the publishing process?


message 28: by Patricia (new)

Patricia Rushford (patriciarushford) | 19 comments I finished the book in April of 2011 and you are right, the publisher did change hands. I found the Studies in Christian Thought and History subtitle attached to the book in several places including Amazon. Like I said, very strange. Hopefully my pub can figure it all out.


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