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Is hijab liberation or oppression?
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Lauren
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Jun 21, 2009 05:32AM
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well,it sounds like u want to give me a facts which supports ur opinion..[lol:]...
that was on my mind last 10mins ago..
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alrite..it can't be called as a fundamentalist..
it is not..
Islam is a divine religion..
neither fundamentalist nor founder..
it's definitely not exist..
Al-Quran and As-Sunnah are the guidance for all mankind..not only sent for Muslims..even if u want to read it as well for references,it's a pleasure and u're allowed to do so..
As Sunnah is defined as all the acts,sayings, do's and don'ts of our Prophets [PBUH:]..
we as MUslims are encouraged to follow what our Prophet had been practiced and done during his lifetime because all these things will be given reward..
Islam isn't the same as Buddhism or Hinduism or any other religion though it may have similarities in some other parts..
most important thing is how those facts are accurately to be accepted or not..i hope that people who donated the facts has fully understand the religion..
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which one..i didn't read the whole part because it's getting out of sense all the way to the end..
gosh...i think some parts has been totally added with their own understanding..that's why i told u earlier,i'm afraid if the person who written all these not deeply know about Islam..
because today,there are thousand of websites writing about Islam in other way of the truth..
i'm not telling if it's totally nonsense but i'm a lil' bit suspicious..
There are two sects in islam, the Sunnis and the Shia's. My family is Sunni muslim, which simply means that they try and live a nobel life, like that of the prophet. Shia's though add extra things. Extra pillars, scrafices and such.
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What other pillars, besides the 5?
that's true..but now,what drives the teachings of Shia's somehow cannot be followed..
still,Sunni and Shia's aren't the fundamentalist of Islam..
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i dun have any idea on that..are u sure about the Taliban?
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really?sounds interesting..
would u like to share...if u dun mind?
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ooo...are you a journalist?anyhow,how do you feel along this discussion?
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Generally, discussion I have more often then not turn to arguments and debates, but this isn't. So, it's unusual. :)
really...wondering if this could bring something bad.. ;p
one more..i thought that u're not a student..
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Nope. Student. I'm still a teenager.
Lauren wrote: "Shi'a don't believe the caliph can be elected, they want a direct descendant. What other pillars, besides the 5? "
Shia's have eight pillars. And the eight are things that Sunni's simply do in daily life, i cant remember them all but i'll find them.
i think people from every parts of the world are a great thinker..but,i don't really know how to be stubborn like you..[LOL ;p:]
still,i love to make every of my cnversation 'hot'
I think it is sometimes hard for different people to understand Islam because Islam is a whole, complete way of life. It changes everything about you- the way you think- your outlook toward life- the way you analyze aspects of life...many of those changes revolve around anticipation for the afterlife.
Hijab is not only a property. im muslim but im not wearing Hijab. Why?? but im not ready enough, wearing hijab is like you must to have a responsibility not only with your self, but you have to do it with your hijab, your attitude, and your religion too.
my familly is general muslim not following by one sect. in my country there are a lotta sect of islam but the bigest are Muhammadiah and NU>(general) and
HIjab is somethin tht you have to wearing to close your body "Aurat".
the point to be a good muslim is you have to believe in Allah, Shalat, and be a sholeh ppl. reading al-qur'an well, and know what is Allah loves or hates.
and im agree with Malaz. islam is a whole, coz islam can teach you in every aspects. and its not only about you are wearing Hijab or not. =)
Go Cj!!! I'll be honest, i'm agnostic, but my whole family is muslim, and if i ever were a religion, it would definitely be islam. :)
if i ever believed a religion (i used to be catholic) i would want to be something cool like budhist or something.
Yoo chandani mu whole family is islam too!!!oke, maybe for the first time im only in islam only coz my parents too but when i grow up, and i know what i must to do. it would definietly be islam. even i didn't wearing hijab, but after you see my IMAN, you will never mind about im wearing hijab or not! =)
Liz wrote: "if i ever believed a religion (i used to be catholic) i would want to be something cool like budhist or something. "Religion is not about cool or not. but religion is about you believe what you beliefs. =)
i know. that is why i am a proud atheist. but if i did have a religion it would be one that actually has merit. like Buddhism or Hindu. One of the asian ones that aren't twisted.
why not now? why you must be waiting untill you has merit???
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You said you were Deist last time I checked! yay! You made the leap!
Cj_ wrote: "Yoo chandani mu whole family is islam too!!!oke, maybe for the first time im only in islam only coz my parents too but when i grow up, and i know what i must to do. it would definietly be islam. ..."
XD!
so..... still do think that if the hijab is only a property?
I think that everyone has the right to a choice and that it really depends on your perspective. I think if these women want to wear a hijab they should be allowed to. And if not, well they don't have too. :D I'm so naiive.
Whether it's liberation or oppression depends on the reasons that the woman is wearing it. It she is wearing it of her own free will, then it is liberation. If she is coerced into wearing it, then it is opression.
yes, is she wearing it or not. i don't care anymore... the most important thing is between her and god. they have their own reason to wear it well or not. =)
peace.
I think it's a bad thing regardless. I have read plenty of books where a woman under the veil describes that freedom of anonymity and such, but if women were treated as equals and not made to feel that way in the first place, I hardly think they would need that sort of liberation if that makes sense.
surely, in islam a woman is MUST wearing hijab.yes, cuz i do.
but... i know too if they are still want to show their awesome hair or somethin up.
i know if im wrong to show my hair and body up.
but liberation of my own is make sense even tho in islam that's a sin.
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From what I've researched it is so that men aren't tempted to rape them,
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And the reason that the women pray behind the men is so the men can't look at their butts when they bend over to pray.
the function of hijab is to protect us from the naughty boy that want to do somethin bad to us as a girl or women. mostly boys or men here are like girl with that type, they only want their GF or wife is only give their 'Sexy' for him. we are sexy with our own way.
even tho i really want to show my sexy up. but i better to wear my hijab to go out. to keep our behave well.
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Xox wrote: "CJ,
The function of hijab is to make you lost all identity of yourself , as I couldn't recognize from your hijab. If you think otherwise, I would consider you as delusional because of your religio..."
wow!! you guys really think strongly about that don't you?
well I'm Muslim too and i wear a hijab everyday to school and out and everywhere CJ is right but a hijab is also worn so we aren't noticed very much. thats why you see the Arabian woman always in black their trying to blend in and not bring to much attention to them selves
I really don't see why your debating on this because in the holy book women are supposed to wear a hijab when ever there is a man out of the family around them nothing you guys debate about is going to change that.
The function of hijab is to make you lost all identity of yourself , as I couldn't recognize from your hijab. If you think otherwise, I would consider you as delusional because of your religio..."
wow!! you guys really think strongly about that don't you?
well I'm Muslim too and i wear a hijab everyday to school and out and everywhere CJ is right but a hijab is also worn so we aren't noticed very much. thats why you see the Arabian woman always in black their trying to blend in and not bring to much attention to them selves
I really don't see why your debating on this because in the holy book women are supposed to wear a hijab when ever there is a man out of the family around them nothing you guys debate about is going to change that.
♪Black Belt Ninja♪ wrote: "I really don't see why your debating on this because in the holy book women are supposed to wear a hijab when ever there is a man out of the family around them nothing you guys debate about is going to change that."Can you cite this, please?
And besides that, just because it says it in the Koran does not mean that we cannot discuss our feelings about the matter. It also does not make me somehow think that it's an acceptable practice.
